Jump to content
tx 3 putt

The Senate Trial of Donald J Trump 2020

Recommended Posts

5 hours ago, horn4life said:

Well yesterday as I listened to most of the attorneys I just thought over and over, it's damn hard to defend guilty people.  Ken Starr.... good sweet lord the endlessly pious man who actually did conduct a multi-year witch hunt, now has sadness over the thought of impeachment.  IF you get a chance you should hear Joe Scarborough's former Pensacola Florida Congressman (R) who hosts MSNBC's Morning Joe.  He just couldn't stop laughing and making fun of Starr, "didn't Ken Starr, remember he was Ken Starr?"

I wasn't really sure how bad it was? As I forgot to switch over to FOX and see the reaction during the first break, but I did switch over for the dinner break.  Apparently I was right. Fox put up about 5 minutes of analytical coverage before shifting over to a Kobe distraction segment.  So apparently Fox was also at a loss to figure out what the "highlights" were for the Trump Defense team.  I honestly thought the defense was sophomoric. I still do not at all understand the insistence that some hearsay evidence completely exonerates Trump, (said in a loud voice) and other hearsay evidence cannot be at all trusted because, it's hearsay evidence (said in a much louder voice).  The other parts of the spaghetti defense strategy were as follows.  Biden's very very bad, because our entire assumptions used to make this conclusion are lies and we know it. That it simply doesn't matter, nothing the President can do is impeachable. The first salvo being, Congress didn't have the right to subpoena anything from the administration regarding anything, ever, on any subject. With the final and most rich piece of Spaghetti being Trump defied the subpoenas because of a selfless act of a desire to protect the integrity of the Presidency for future Presidents.

Anyone see anything different from yesterday?  

 

 

 

 

it's essentially one big disingenuous hedge.

He didn't do it...but if he did, it wasn't wrong.

We don't know if you will be able to completely keep you from finding out the truth, but if you some how manage to... trust us on this, there was nothing criminal or impeachable.

i didn't see all of Jay Sekulow's summation, but this was literally his argument.

Edited by yoladu

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, DDD Dad said:

SIAP

 

and Gov. Abbot will speak against tort reform and in favor of damage limits..

 

oh..wait..he already did

Abbot has received roughly $7 million from his accident

Edited by pacman

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Don’t choke on your lettuce, Turtle

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

A part of me would just like this whole thing to be over. Everyone knows Trump and his group are crooks and liars. The fact that so many people don’t care about it bothers the hell out of me. But it won’t change one thing. And people have a short attention span. Trump has been getting away with so much for so long that the public have become numb and zombies. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Just now, Bama Chick said:

Minor treason??

Is that like a little bit pregnant?

It’s like when a Republican just puts the tip in to the alter/page boy or that random guy in the airport bathroom. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

It was just light treason 

 

WTF?  I can't imagine a scenario where I could maintain support for any person who was making a defense that what they were doing was only slightly treasonous.  Any treason is too much.  Jesus on a stick. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yeah I'll believe Moscow Mitch doesn't have the votes to block witnesses when it actually happens. Having said that, if they do vote for witnesses, is Donald going to try to block Bolton? God damn that would be hilarious.... 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

It was just light treason 

 

Wait....did that really happen?  I mean, what words did he actually say?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Fucking minor treason ??????

bwahahahahahahahahahahahaa

Edited by tx 3 putt

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

17 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

Minor treason??

Is that like a little bit pregnant?

It's just playing a little footsie.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Involuntary Treason is about to become part of the American lexicon.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Hank Scorpio said:

EPVArVDWsAIYUYB?format=png&name=small

Mr. Bolton, welcome to the resistance. 

Serious question. Why is Lou Dobbs on Fox Business? Can't they fit him in with the rest of the propagandists on the evening shows? I usually have CNBC on in the office, so not sure how Fox Business works, but figured since it's a business network they would have some level of reality. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I’m not sure. I think a majority of R voters don’t care. Murder someone on Fifth Ave and all

Agreed.   They just hate Democrats and are ok with a bad guy as long as he hurts Democrats.

Edited by longhornmatt

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

I’m not sure. I think a majority of R voters don’t care. Murder someone on Fifth Ave and all

They’d only be upset if the victim wasn’t a Democrat 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
59 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Fucking minor treason ??????

bwahahahahahahahahahahahaa

Just chop half of his head off. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Posthumously impeachments start in 2021. Let’s do it 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
11 minutes ago, Js1 said:

They’d only be upset if the victim wasn’t a Democrat 

They wouldn't care. Look at how they turned on Bolton.  And McCain. There are literally zero people ahead of Trump in the new GOP pecking order.  Trump could kill W on 5th Ave and Fox wouldn't even say RIP W.  They'd instead skewer his record and call him a dirty lib who deserved it.  Trump could even dig Reagan up, reanimate him, and shoot him, and they'd say the same thing. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Posthumously impeachments start in 2021. Let’s do it 

 

if they convict trump i'm cool with going ahead and impeaching the shit out of van buren.  that asshole was asking for it.  throw in polk, what do i care.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

if they convict trump i'm cool with going ahead and impeaching the shit out of van buren.  that asshole was asking for it.  throw in polk, what do i care.

That Jackson lackey.

Edited by SimonBolivar

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Cornyn's seeming bland idiocy reflects the blackly sinister become banal.

He tosses out the sophistry without even the effort of trying to make it appear logically convincing. The president's team has been hammering that sort of thing home for days now. Straw man arguments, invective against the House managers, and odd ball diversions into the irrelevant aren't getting laughed out of the room. 

How guilty must the entire GOP be that this is the best that they can do and they choose to do it? I will say anything that may help me as I try to cover up a massive criminal operation, and a huge number of voters will buy it. If that makes me a lying piece of shit, so be it; at least I'll still be in office and the enterprise will continue.

How naive are we who believe that most men want to be known for having some level of integrity? Some iota of honesty? Some whisper of a sense of duty?

I would have a long gallows if I couldn't manage to get enough iron cages for these traitors. I don't even write with a great feeling of passion. I'm as bland as Cornyn in my anger. Just round them up and punish them as they deserve. I'll nod and return to an ordinary life with maybe a scintilla of hope that the republic can right itself.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

How guilty must the entire GOP be that this is the best that they can do and they choose to do it? I will say anything that may help me as I try to cover up a massive criminal operation, and a huge number of voters will buy it. If that makes me a lying piece of shit, so be it; at least I'll still be in office and the enterprise will continue.

the gop is purely transactional now.  from the top down.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Wait....did that really happen?  I mean, what words did he actually say?

Yeah, I need a direct quote, hopefully on video. I need to see/hear this.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
16 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

They wouldn't care. Look at how they turned on Bolton.  And McCain. There are literally zero people ahead of Trump in the new GOP pecking order.  Trump could kill W on 5th Ave and Fox wouldn't even say RIP W.  They'd instead skewer his record and call him a dirty lib who deserved it.  Trump could even dig Reagan up, reanimate him, and shoot him, and they'd say the same thing. 

He saved us from Zombie Reagan.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

 

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

It was just light treason 

 

Petty Treason under the English system included murder.  So basically they are admitting Trump had Epstein killed.  /P-Anon

Edited by Nivek

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
42 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Cornyn's seeming bland idiocy reflects the blackly sinister become banal.

He tosses out the sophistry without even the effort of trying to make it appear logically convincing. The president's team has been hammering that sort of thing home for days now. Straw man arguments, invective against the House managers, and odd ball diversions into the irrelevant aren't getting laughed out of the room. 

How guilty must the entire GOP be that this is the best that they can do and they choose to do it? I will say anything that may help me as I try to cover up a massive criminal operation, and a huge number of voters will buy it. If that makes me a lying piece of shit, so be it; at least I'll still be in office and the enterprise will continue.

How naive are we who believe that most men want to be known for having some level of integrity? Some iota of honesty? Some whisper of a sense of duty?

I would have a long gallows if I couldn't manage to get enough iron cages for these traitors. I don't even write with a great feeling of passion. I'm as bland as Cornyn in my anger. Just round them up and punish them as they deserve. I'll nod and return to an ordinary life with maybe a scintilla of hope that the republic can right itself.

It's a full on mafia operation. The whole thing operates like consensual blackmail with a threat of retaliatory violence thrown in.  Maybe you start as the guy who has a friend in the mob and he asked you to leave the door unlocked at work for a couple hundred bucks. You didn't expect they would kill someone in there that night. But now you're complicit in that murder, so the next time you go in a little further for a little more money. The next time even further. 

Trump is all in and has been for a long time. Some of the GOP is all in too.  The rest are compromised by groups that are compromised themselves like the NRA. Either way, they all ended up with something to hide, and they are all willing to cover up Trump's treason for it.  Really though, every single one of them needs to go to jail. 

 

Edited by FondrenRoad

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's ironic that one of the most loathsome Republicans in our lifetime (Bolton) is going to bring this to a head and he'll be questioned by an equally loathsome Republican (Starr).

Literally, Ken Starr will be questioning John Bolton in an impeachment trial for Donald J Trump.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 minutes ago, Pasken said:

anyone know how the question days will work?

 

I’ve been out most of the day, but I thought it was 2 days, 8 hours per day. Alternating questions by maj/min with answers kept to about 5 minutes or maybe that was each question limited to about 5 minutes. 
 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Serious question. Why is Lou Dobbs on Fox Business? Can't they fit him in with the rest of the propagandists on the evening shows? I usually have CNBC on in the office, so not sure how Fox Business works, but figured since it's a business network they would have some level of reality. 


I still think it’s funny they put him under a lower resolution filter to keep him from looking like Al Davis before he died.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Js1 said:

Don’t choke on your lettuce, Turtle

 

 

Quite a turn if true.  It tells us that Senate GOP knows it's losing its grip.  Time to take higher ground and hope the water stops rising.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
26 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

It's ironic that one of the most loathsome Republicans in our lifetime (Bolton) is going to bring this to a head and he'll be questioned by an equally loathsome Republican (Starr).

Literally, Ken Starr will be questioning John Bolton in an impeachment trial for Donald J Trump.

His economic, social, and foreign policy ideals are not only loathsome, but wrong and damaging.  Still he truly believes in them because he's an ideologue.  I will give him credit where it's due. He stuck by those ideals.  He didn't cover them up or lie to the people.  And he also wasn't willing to commit treason to achieve those ideals.  I would have a beer with Bolton.  At least he truly cares about something even if he cares about the wrong things and also has wrongheaded plans that won't even achieve his goals.  The rest of the GOP are just opportunistic snakes.  Devoid of any true beliefs, ideals, or goals. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I love how Republicans keep arguing for mob rule. Let the voters decide if he should be impeached...Bitch, that’s not how this works. They already elected you, now do your fucking job. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I heard one defense argument yesterday that I agree with and I called it out before the articles of impeachment were drafted.

The articles should have called out specific crimes and not the general "Abuse of Power" and Obstruction of Justice.

 

Abuse of power should have been broken up into:

  • Soliciting foreign interference in presidential election
  • Extortion or Bribery
  • Violation of the Impoundment Act in conjunction with Extortion

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

I heard one defense argument yesterday that I agree with and I called it out before the articles of impeachment were drafted.

The articles should have called out specific crimes and not the general "Abuse of Power" and Obstruction of Justice.

 

Abuse of power should have been broken up into:

  • Soliciting foreign interference in presidential election
  • Extortion or Bribery
  • Violation of the Impoundment Act in conjunction with Extortion

The article for Obstruction of Congress is understandable.  Without every single key testimony and document being withheld, House could tee some of those up.  And now we're possibly about to get a keystone witness.  The House presenting the two clean and tight articles allows them to let the Senate/WH lay out it's defense.  Nothing stopping House from observing what they do, making adjustments and bringing in more articles while flipping their current defense in their face.

I think Senate right now knows the torrent or revelations won't be stemmed regardless of what they do.  So their commitment to being the outer ring of the cover-up is starting to disintegrate.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
30 minutes ago, FondrenRoad said:

His economic, social, and foreign policy ideals are not only loathsome, but wrong and damaging.  Still he truly believes in them because he's an ideologue.  I will give him credit where it's due. He stuck by those ideals.  He didn't cover them up or lie to the people.  And he also wasn't willing to commit treason to achieve those ideals.  I would have a beer with Bolton.  At least he truly cares about something even if he cares about the wrong things and also has wrongheaded plans that won't even achieve his goals.  The rest of the GOP are just opportunistic snakes.  Devoid of any true beliefs, ideals, or goals. 

Lets not start sucking Bolton's dick just yet.  I want to hear his testimony first.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

mpu


Football ... Basketball ... Baseball ... Other Sports ... Recruiting ... Gambling ... Movies & TV ... Music ... Hobbies ... Lulz ... Food & Travel ... Daily Texan ... Help ... For Sale ... Politics ... Board Discussion
×
×
  • Create New...