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25 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Actual Texags thread titles:

 

"Why did the SEC allow tu to call the shots?" 

"So what happens to the LHN dumpster fire" 

"Sips Don't Fit"

"The perpetual tu coaches' hot seat" 

"It's time we throw our weight around"

"Fire Bjork"

"Actual footage of sips navigating an SEC schedule."

"The guys aren't scared."

"Ass My Dude"

"Why tu may find things difficult in the SEC"

"ESPN already pushing the sips"

"SEC Rant poll - Go Vote"

"Start pulling the funding"

 

Bless their hearts...

So many misspellings of “we scared” 

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The whole "So what happens to the LHN dumpster fire"  

I don't understand. We got paid, we get paid every year.. right? LHN looses money for ESPN.. man that's sucks for them but we get paid .. right? So ESPN makes a bad business decision and somehow that's on us? 

So .. from Austin Monthly.. "Whether or not Longhorn Network makes money is also not a University of Texas problem. “I think it’s hard to criticize it from a pure business perspective,” says Matt Brown, who writes the college football newsletter “Extra Points” 

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4 hours ago, Speedway said:

Why stop at two 20 team or four 16 team conferences?  Why not be preemptive and avoid possible (anti-trust) and other government interference litigation??  Why not generate a ton of money to pay players in this new NIL universe???  Why not get rid of the NCAA and solve realignment in one fell swoop????    I don't know but may be this would be a start.

At the end of 2020 there were 128 FBS schools in ten conferences and Independents.  Once the Big XII in cannibalized as you outlined, dissolve the Sun Belt conference too and incorporate their members and the five Independents into four other 16 member conferences.  Like this:

Independents - Army, UMass, Liberty, and New Mexico St join the AAC; along with Kansas St to form a sixteen member AAC

Texas State, Louisiana, UL Monroe leave the Sun Belt for Conference USA to make sixteen

Troy, South Alabama, and Arkansas St leave the Sun Belt and join the Mountain West along with Independent BYU adding up to sixteen

Coastal Carolina, Appalachian St, Georgia St, and Georgia Southern leave the Sun Belt to join the Mid-American for sixteen

Then the 8 Super Conferences quit the NCAA and form a new 128 member organization (like the old CFA).  Each conference can then auction off television rights to the highest bidders.  ESPN, Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC, TBS, etc., will all drive up television revenue bidding on conference television packages.   Playoffs are the 12 best teams selected by committee.   Tie the Bowls in with conference CCGs and the playoffs and the quality games will generate mega television and Bowl payouts.  The conferences can also leverage other sports to drive up television revenue.

Almost everyone would not have a legitimate complaint about this set up because of the money it would generate and the fact that everyone is included.  Then College Football will look like this:

PAC 16

USC
UCLA
Stanford.
California
Washington
Washington St
Oregon
Oregon St
 
Arizona
Arizona St
Utah
Colorado
Oklahoma St
Texas Tech
TCU
Baylor
Big 16
 
Ohio St
Michigan
Michigan St
Penn St
Indiana
Purdue
Rutgers
Maryland
 
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Minnesota
Iowa
Northwestern
Illinois
Kansas
Iowa St
SEC
 
Alabama
Georgia
Florida
Auburn
Tennessee
South Carolina
Kentucky
Vanderbilt
 
Texas
Oklahoma
LSU
Arkansas
Texas A&M
Missouri
Mississippi
Mississippi St
ACC
 
Clemson
Florida St
Miami
Georgia Tech
North Carolina
North Carolina St
Duke
Wake Forest
 
Notre Dame
Boston College
Syracuse
Louisville
Pittsburgh
Virgin Tech
Virginia
West Virginia
AAC
 
Cincinnati
UCF
East Carolina
Temple
Navy
Army
Massachusetts
Liberty
 
Tulsa
Memphis
SMU
Houston
Tulane
Southern Florida
Kansas St
New Mexico St
USA
 
Marshall
Florida Atlantic
Western Kentucky
Charlotte
Middle Tennessee
Florida International
UAB
Southern Mississippi
 
UTEP
UTSA
North Texas
Rice
Louisiana Tech
Texas State
Louisiana
UL Monroe

Mountain West

San José State
Boise State
Nevada
San Diego State
Hawaii
Fresno State
Air Force
Wyoming
 
New Mexico
Colorado State
Utah State
UNLV
BYU
Troy
South Alabama
Arkansas State
Mid-American
 
Buffalo
Kent State
Miami (OH)
Ohio
Akron
Bowling Green
Toledo
Ball State
 
Western Michigan
Central Michigan
Eastern Michigan
Northern Illinois
Coastal Carolina
Appalachian State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Nvm I’m an idiot 

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3 minutes ago, BonzoMontreaux said:

And to make that 1994 Rice sting a little more… NFL was on strike and we were the only football game on Sunday night.
 

Oh, God, I had forgotten that.

 

 

Thank you for reminding me of that.  Fuckface.

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4 minutes ago, TexasBeta said:

The whole "So what happens to the LHN dumpster fire"  

I don't understand. We got paid, we get paid every year.. right? LHN looses money for ESPN.. man that's sucks for them but we get paid .. right? So ESPN makes a bad business decision and somehow that's on us? 

 

I would guess its the risidual aggy narrative that the LHN was the reason they left the big 12 cause mean ol Texas wouldnt let them be a part of the network...

nevermind that we literally offered the fucking Aggys to be part of the Texas Network... and they told us to go pound sand... 18 months later its somehow the fucking straw that broke their back and forced them to leave. 

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So is it your contention that UT softball is historically an NCAA power, like say volleyball or women's swimming & diving or track & field?  (Purposefully ignoring women's basketball.)
Nope... Just odd to say they underperform every year a month and a half after they made super regionals.
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I pray we sat and listened then come Monday morning at the earliest possible time submit our letter notifying the conference we are out. There is nothing they can say, in my opinion, that would change my mind regarding leaving. I'm done watching KSU, BU, TT and the rest of these teams.

 

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31 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I flew back to Austin from a business trip that night.  Got home, flipped on the game 3/4 of the way through . . . that was the biggest WTF moment of my life.

I was a freshman, I had gone home to Dallas that weekend for some reason don't remember since I had been home the week earlier for OU.  Cowboys were playing the Eagles early that Sunday (remember that Rice game was on a Sunday) and Texas-Rice was later.  We were coming off the Stonie Clark game where JB had his coming out so I thought "well I will stick around and watch this Cowboys game as that's a tough premier match up and then I will drive back to Austin and listen to the Texas game because yea it's fucking Rice."  What a miserable fucking trip.  Got back to Jester (after the walk from the C lot that used to be where the soccer stadium is now) in time to see us finish off that shit show.  

Cowboys whipped the Eagles ass. But that was back before Jerry had completed his demolition job.

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24 minutes ago, BonzoMontreaux said:

And to make that 1994 Rice sting a little more… NFL was on strike and we were the only football game on Sunday night.


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Baseball was on strike...not the NFL

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2 hours ago, Pancho said:

Fire Bjork

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Fire Bjork. He was either surprised and did not know what was happening or worse he was willing to sleep with the enemy rather than expose them. Remove all the SEC branding from our uniforms, Kyle Field, etc. Nothing special about the SEC anymore. It's a money grab, we might as well let Michigan, Ohio State, Florida State and Clemson join, too.

we will likely never learn what caused sharp to go cornholio, but it is absolutely crystal that bjork was dispatched to hoover to throw sharp's temper tantrum on sharp's behalf

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9 minutes ago, DCLonghorn said:
1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:
So is it your contention that UT softball is historically an NCAA power, like say volleyball or women's swimming & diving or track & field?  (Purposefully ignoring women's basketball.)

Nope... Just odd to say they underperform every year a month and a half after they made super regionals.

Oof.  25 seasons, never made the CWS finals, much less win it all, at least if my recollection is correct.  I hope Mike White is the answer.  Connie Clark wasn't.

I think most UT fans expect women's sports to dominate, and most do.  Softball has always lagged that standard a bit.  Fair?  Probably not.  It's the expectation.

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7 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I was a freshman, I had gone home to Dallas that weekend for some reason don't remember since I had been home the week earlier for OU.  Cowboys were playing the Eagles early that Sunday (remember that Rice game was on a Sunday) and Texas-Rice was later.  We were coming off the Stonie Clark game where JB had his coming out so I thought "well I will stick around and watch this Cowboys game as that's a tough premier match up and then I will drive back to Austin and listen to the Texas game because yea it's fucking Rice."  What a miserable fucking trip.  Got back to Jester (after the walk from the C lot that used to be where the soccer stadium is now) in time to see us finish off that shit show.  

Cowboys whipped the Eagles ass. But that was back before Jerry had completed his demolition job.

CSB...I was at that Cowboys game. IIRC, it absolutely poured that night.  IT was me and my friend from San Marcos and another Aggy friend.  We left Texas Stadium and I had to drive my Aggy friend back to campus before heading back to San Marcos.  It was a torrential rainstorm all the way back.  It sucked listening to that on the radio.

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10 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Oof.  25 seasons, never made the CWS finals, much less win it all, at least if my recollection is correct.  I hope Mike White is the answer.  Connie Clark wasn't.

I think most UT fans expect women's sports to dominate, and most do.  Softball has always lagged that standard a bit.  Fair?  Probably not.  It's the expectation.

Clark was kept around 10-15 years longer than she deserved.  The fact that we never won a championship with Williams, Osterman or Luna pitching is absolutely criminal.

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40 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Wonder if bowlsby changed our minds?

If we stay in this conference or anything less than going to either the SEC, Big10, or ACC, I’m going to find it hard to ever care about UT sports again. What a potential let down…

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Sources: Despite Big 12 meeting Sunday, Texas and OU still to notify league Monday they won't renew GOR

Chip Brown

 

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Sources: Despite Big 12 meeting Sunday, Texas and OU still to notify league Monday they won't renew GOR

Chip Brown

Despite a Big 12 executive committee meeting on Sunday that included Texas president Jay Hartzell and Oklahoma president Joe Harroz, Texas and OU are still expected to notify the Big 12 on Monday that the league's two founding members won't be renewing their grant of rights in the Big 12 when those rights expire at the end of the 2024-25 school year, a high-ranking source close to the situation told Horns247.

That notification is the first step in Texas and Oklahoma then being considered for admission to the Southeastern Conference, a process "that could move quickly," the source said.

The Big 12's executive committee met with Hartzell and Harroz on Sunday via videoconference to see what possible changes could be made to improve the league while Texas and OU are still in it, sources told Horns247.

One source close to the situation said Sunday's meeting was more of a "listening session" for Hartzell and Harroz as members of the executive committee talked about several things, including the possibility of an increased share of revenue for Texas and Oklahoma.

"Nothing was officially proposed - it was just conversation," the source said.

The members of the Big 12's executive committee in Sunday's meeting consisted of Texas Tech president Lawrence Shovanec, who is the Big 12 board of directors chairman, as well as Baylor president Linda Livingstone and Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby.

Bowlsby released a statement that said:

“The meeting was cordial, and the executive committee expressed a willingness to discuss proposals that would strengthen the conference and be mutually beneficial to OU and UT, as well as the other member institutions of the conference. I expect that we will continue our conversations in the days ahead, and we look forward to discussing thoughts, ideas and concepts that may be of shared interest and impact.”

Bowlsby's statement marked his first public comments since news broke last week in the Houston Chronicle that Texas and Oklahoma have been exploring a move to the SEC.

Bowlsby was quoted at Big 12 Media Days earlier this month as saying, "A lot of the motivation for realignment is no longer there. Is that to say it couldn’t happen? No, it could possibly happen for other reasons. But it doesn't appear to me that the motivation is there at this point in time. Not to say it couldn't happen, but it's not one of the things that keep me up at night.”

 

 

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Just now, NoRagrets said:

If we stay in this conference or anything less than going to either the SEC, Big10, or ACC, I’m going to find it hard to ever care about UT sports again. What a potential let down…

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13 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Oof.  25 seasons, never made the CWS finals, much less win it all, at least if my recollection is correct.  I hope Mike White is the answer.  Connie Clark wasn't.

I think most UT fans expect women's sports to dominate, and most do.  Softball has always lagged that standard a bit.  Fair?  Probably not.  It's the expectation.

Did they? I mean they do now but the previous regime seemed content with being just meh in women's sports. When Gail Goestenkors desperately wanted to leave because she knew it wasn't working out and UT tried to convince her to stay I knew they weren't taking excellence in women's sports seriously. The only sport we seemed to be great at was Volleyball and that almost seemed like an accident. 

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Sources: Despite Big 12 meeting Sunday, Texas and OU still to notify league Monday they won't renew GOR

Chip Brown

 

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Sources: Despite Big 12 meeting Sunday, Texas and OU still to notify league Monday they won't renew GOR

Chip Brown

Despite a Big 12 executive committee meeting on Sunday that included Texas president Jay Hartzell and Oklahoma president Joe Harroz, Texas and OU are still expected to notify the Big 12 on Monday that the league's two founding members won't be renewing their grant of rights in the Big 12 when those rights expire at the end of the 2024-25 school year, a high-ranking source close to the situation told Horns247.

That notification is the first step in Texas and Oklahoma then being considered for admission to the Southeastern Conference, a process "that could move quickly," the source said.

The Big 12's executive committee met with Hartzell and Harroz on Sunday via videoconference to see what possible changes could be made to improve the league while Texas and OU are still in it, sources told Horns247.

One source close to the situation said Sunday's meeting was more of a "listening session" for Hartzell and Harroz as members of the executive committee talked about several things, including the possibility of an increased share of revenue for Texas and Oklahoma.

"Nothing was officially proposed - it was just conversation," the source said.

The members of the Big 12's executive committee in Sunday's meeting consisted of Texas Tech president Lawrence Shovanec, who is the Big 12 board of directors chairman, as well as Baylor president Linda Livingstone and Big 12 commissioner Bob Bowlsby.

Bowlsby released a statement that said:

“The meeting was cordial, and the executive committee expressed a willingness to discuss proposals that would strengthen the conference and be mutually beneficial to OU and UT, as well as the other member institutions of the conference. I expect that we will continue our conversations in the days ahead, and we look forward to discussing thoughts, ideas and concepts that may be of shared interest and impact.”

Bowlsby's statement marked his first public comments since news broke last week in the Houston Chronicle that Texas and Oklahoma have been exploring a move to the SEC.

Bowlsby was quoted at Big 12 Media Days earlier this month as saying, "A lot of the motivation for realignment is no longer there. Is that to say it couldn’t happen? No, it could possibly happen for other reasons. But it doesn't appear to me that the motivation is there at this point in time. Not to say it couldn't happen, but it's not one of the things that keep me up at night.”

 

 

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I could see a scenario where SEC tskes Ok St, but they are big game hunting right now. My hunch is that they could go after FSU and Clemson. 

Fuck FSU. And Clemson’s path to the playoffs remains optimal where they are.
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1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

"So what happens to the LHN dumpster fire" 

 

I'm sure this has been covered in this thread... but the aggies just cannot fucking decide if the LHN is a death-star-level advantage for UT that gives us an unfair monetary and recruiting edge (they consistently named the LHN as a primary reason for leaving the Big 12), or if the LHN is a national embarrassment, a financial disaster, and a punchline within the world of sports media ("dumpster fire" in that thread title).

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21 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Did they? I mean they do now but the previous regime seemed content with being just meh in women's sports. 

There's no doubt some truth in that.  I was in grad school when the women won the NCAA in basketball and soon started winning swimming (a bunch), along with some close calls.  They've had  titles and close calls in track over that time.  I don't think soccer has sniffed a title yet, but I could be wrong -- that's relatively new for us.

EDIT:  oh yeah, multiple tennis titles

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