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Chasing TX in 2020 might be a pipedream for the Dems, but the Dems can't just let TX go.   Beto almost singlehandedly put Fletcher and Allred in the House for the Dems, and added many more local Dem officials.  Now he wasn't enough to win a state-wide race for anyone, especially himself but he hurt the TX GOP and many many county GOP parties.   
If the Dems let TX revert back in 2020 or 2022, they screwed up.   I've now talked myself into thinking they will do that.

State legislature and court races too. Beto was a godsend for Dems in Texas this cycle. Proof Dems need to run quality candidates from the top down.
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14 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

In more important news, you can now order alcohol at a restaurant at 11am on Sunday in Georgia. #realissues

Do you remember the days when they roped off parts of the hardware store? Homer's. There was no HD or Lowe's but there was this place. If you needed a hammer because you broke yours, tough shit you can wait until Monday. It's the same reason we have not had a chance to vote on booze hours, weed, and other sins. Because we are a bunch of sinners and it will win. 70/30.

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8 hours ago, Stringer said:

Florida is the most interesting to me.  With allowing felons to vote, that increases the rolls by 1.4M people.  Say half of that votes and 60% votes D (probably low).  That gives D's a 140,000 vote boost.  

That puts Nelson in the Senate, Gillum in the State House and gives Hillary Florida.  

It's Happening!  We are getting a redo. ?

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It would be something if the gop only end up with 51 senators after this election plus the 1 in the upcoming MS run off.

If the poster here is correct in that at least some scantrons failed to capture some votes, I’m at a loss.  Some here have been calling for Texas to go to them.  Sounds like a bad idea.  Especially in that poorer counties would probably end up with the worst machines after a while.

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A teacher in Florida found a container labeled “Provisional Ballot Box” in a storage area of her elementary school on Thursday.

Lakeisha Williams, of Broward County, said she discovered the ballot box two days after Election Day at Miramar Elementary School — where it was apparently left behind by election workers.

“I went into the area that we use for storage and saw it in there,” Williams told The Post.

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46 minutes ago, Pancho Negro said:

At this point I’m fully convinced there are ballots at the bottom of lake okichekbojbie

Probably.  Someone was overheard "joking" that we will find some Al Gore votes now.  How much of that is a joke or how much of that was Jebbie ensuring his brother got elected.

53 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

So, Sinema is now winning in Arizona?  

Yes, currently by about 9k.  More Maricopa votes will dump at 6 central time, and some of the other counties as well.  There's still about 350k votes outstanding, but the vast majority are from more Sinema friendly areas.  There's a good bit outstanding but for sure what we know:

Apache has ~4.6k votes outstanding (65% Sinema area)
Cochise has ~4.7k outstanding (59% McSally area)
Coconino has ~10.5k outstanding (62% Sinema area)
Maricopa has ~345k outstanding (50/50 with a slight Sinema lean)
Navajo has ~4k outstanding (50% McSally area)
Pima has ~80k outstanding (56% Sinema area)
Pinal has ~30k outstanding (56% McSally area)
Santa Cruz has ~2.2k outstanding (68% Sinema area)
Yavapai has ~6k outstanding (60% McSally area)

There's ~97.3k votes outstanding in Sinema-friendly counties and ~44.7k in McSally-friendly counties and ~345k in a 50/50 county.

My back of the napkin calculation is, if all votes break as they currently are/did, Sinema can pick up ~247,000 votes and McSally can pick up ~232,000.  That's a 15,000 vote advantage for Sinema + her 9k vote lead and it does appear she should be favored. 

But it matters WHAT votes are outstanding.  But remember, early votes were more Democratic the later they were received by the counties.  The Democrats shaved off the R advantage every single day it got closer to Tuesday.  So unsure why McSally's camp thanks these ballots favor her overwhelmingly.

 

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11 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

Do you remember the days when they roped off parts of the hardware store? Homer's. There was no HD or Lowe's but there was this place. If you needed a hammer because you broke yours, tough shit you can wait until Monday. It's the same reason we have not had a chance to vote on booze hours, weed, and other sins. Because we are a bunch of sinners and it will win. 70/30.

Could you explain this better to a non-Texan? Why would a hardware store not let you buy a hammer? 

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21 hours ago, Js1 said:

I don't disagree with Texas > Ohio.  Ohio looks like it's going the way of Missouri.  Hard right and it ain't stopping.

Trump's margin was twice that of this election in Ohio.  The Republicans lost in all Ohio major urban counties and won all the rural counties.

 

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...The numbers underscore that this latest red wave in Ohio -- a sweep of all statewide offices with a legislature still firmly in GOP hands -- is both less and more than that.

It's a complex red-blue wave of rural-urban divisions where the interests of Ohio's major population centers and its most vibrant economic engines are not being reflected in a Statehouse firmly entrenched in downstate and rural interests...

https://www.cleveland.com/opinion/index.ssf/2018/11/ohios_complicated_red-blue_rur.html

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https://www.axios.com/democrats-2018-midterm-elections-house-congress-20ad294d-c608-4f70-af89-97d683757ed0.html

 

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Democrats have won at least 33 seats, but they look poised to win closer to 40 — there are 13 races that are either not called or too close to call, and Democrats have a solid chance of winning seven of those.

Why it matters: We're officially in "blue wave" territory. Even if Democrats didn't win any additional House seats, they've already won the most number of seats since Watergate, when the party picked up 48 seats in 1974.

 

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I'm feeling surly, so here are the ranking of states by percent with advanced degrees.  I've bolded the ones that went Clinton, italics the ones that went Trump.  It's almost like you can detect a pattern here.

District of Columbia 89.3%   54.6%   31.3%  
Massachusetts 89.8% 19 40.5% 1 17.7% 1
Maryland 89.4% 23 37.9% 3 17.3% 2
Connecticut 89.9% 18 37.6% 4 16.6% 3
Virginia 88.3% 29 36.3% 6 15.4% 4
New York 85.6% 37 34.2% 9 14.8% 5
Vermont 91.8% 6 36.0% 7 14.3% 6
Colorado 90.7% 14 38.1% 2 14.0% 7
New Jersey 88.6% 26 36.8% 5 14.0% 7
New Hampshire 92.3% 3 34.9% 8 13.0% 9
Rhode Island 86.2% 34 31.9% 13 12.8% 10
Illinois 87.9% 30 32.3% 12 12.4% 11
Delaware 88.4% 27 30.0% 19 12.2% 12
Washington 90.4% 16 32.9% 11 12.0% 13
California 81.8% 50 31.4% 14 11.6% 14
Oregon 89.8% 19 30.8% 17 11.5% 15
New Mexico 84.2% 45 26.3% 36 11.5% 15
Minnesota 92.4% 2 33.7% 10 11.2% 17
United States 86.7%   29.8%   11.2%  
Pennsylvania 89.2% 24 28.6% 24 11.2% 17
Kansas 90.2% 17 31.0% 16 11.0% 19
Georgia 85.4% 40 28.8% 23 10.7% 20
Hawaii 91.0% 11 30.8% 17 10.5% 21
Michigan 89.6% 21 26.9% 34 10.5% 21
Utah 91.2% 10 31.1% 15 10.4% 23
Maine 91.6% 8 29.0% 22 10.3% 24
Arizona 86.0% 35 27.5% 30 10.2% 25
Missouri 88.4% 27 27.1% 32 10.2% 25
Alaska 92.1% 5 28.0% 26 10.1% 27
North Carolina 85.8% 36 28.4% 25 9.9% 28
Florida 86.9% 32 27.3% 31 9.8% 29
Nebraska 90.7% 14 29.3% 21 9.7% 30
Texas 93.6% 1 29.5% 20 9.5% 1
Ohio 91.0% 11 27.8% 27 9.4% 33
Wisconsin 81.9% 49 27.6% 29 9.4% 32
South Carolina 85.6% 37 25.8% 39 9.3% 35
Kentucky 84.2% 45 22.3% 47 9.2% 36
Montana 85.5% 39 24.9% 41 9.0% 37
Indiana 87.8% 31 24.1% 42 8.7% 38
Alabama 84.3% 44 23.5% 44 8.7% 38
Wyoming 92.3% 3 25.7% 40 8.6% 40
Iowa 91.5% 9 26.7% 35 8.5% 41
Idaho 89.5% 22 25.9% 38 8.2% 42
South Dakota 90.9% 13 27.0% 33 8.0% 43
Oklahoma 86.9% 32 24.1% 42 8.0% 43
Nevada 85.1% 41 23.0% 45 7.9% 45
Louisiana 83.4% 47 22.5% 46 7.7% 46
Mississippi 82.3% 48 20.7% 49 7.7% 46
North Dakota 91.7% 7 27.7% 28 7.6% 48
Arkansas 84.8% 43 21.1% 48 7.5% 49
West Virginia 85.0% 42 19.2% 50 7.4% 50
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1 hour ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

I'm feeling surly, so here are the ranking of states by percent with advanced degrees.  I've bolded the ones that went Clinton, italics the ones that went Trump.  It's almost like you can detect a pattern here.



District of Columbia 89.3%   54.6%   31.3%  
Massachusetts 89.8% 19 40.5% 1 17.7% 1
Maryland 89.4% 23 37.9% 3 17.3% 2
Connecticut 89.9% 18 37.6% 4 16.6% 3
Virginia 88.3% 29 36.3% 6 15.4% 4
New York 85.6% 37 34.2% 9 14.8% 5
Vermont 91.8% 6 36.0% 7 14.3% 6
Colorado 90.7% 14 38.1% 2 14.0% 7
New Jersey 88.6% 26 36.8% 5 14.0% 7
New Hampshire 92.3% 3 34.9% 8 13.0% 9
Rhode Island 86.2% 34 31.9% 13 12.8% 10
Illinois 87.9% 30 32.3% 12 12.4% 11
Delaware 88.4% 27 30.0% 19 12.2% 12
Washington 90.4% 16 32.9% 11 12.0% 13
California 81.8% 50 31.4% 14 11.6% 14
Oregon 89.8% 19 30.8% 17 11.5% 15
New Mexico 84.2% 45 26.3% 36 11.5% 15
Minnesota 92.4% 2 33.7% 10 11.2% 17
United States 86.7%   29.8%   11.2%  
Pennsylvania 89.2% 24 28.6% 24 11.2% 17
Kansas 90.2% 17 31.0% 16 11.0% 19
Georgia 85.4% 40 28.8% 23 10.7% 20
Hawaii 91.0% 11 30.8% 17 10.5% 21
Michigan 89.6% 21 26.9% 34 10.5% 21
Utah 91.2% 10 31.1% 15 10.4% 23
Maine 91.6% 8 29.0% 22 10.3% 24
Arizona 86.0% 35 27.5% 30 10.2% 25
Missouri 88.4% 27 27.1% 32 10.2% 25
Alaska 92.1% 5 28.0% 26 10.1% 27
North Carolina 85.8% 36 28.4% 25 9.9% 28
Florida 86.9% 32 27.3% 31 9.8% 29
Nebraska 90.7% 14 29.3% 21 9.7% 30
Texas 93.6% 1 29.5% 20 9.5% 1
Ohio 91.0% 11 27.8% 27 9.4% 33
Wisconsin 81.9% 49 27.6% 29 9.4% 32
South Carolina 85.6% 37 25.8% 39 9.3% 35
Kentucky 84.2% 45 22.3% 47 9.2% 36
Montana 85.5% 39 24.9% 41 9.0% 37
Indiana 87.8% 31 24.1% 42 8.7% 38
Alabama 84.3% 44 23.5% 44 8.7% 38
Wyoming 92.3% 3 25.7% 40 8.6% 40
Iowa 91.5% 9 26.7% 35 8.5% 41
Idaho 89.5% 22 25.9% 38 8.2% 42
South Dakota 90.9% 13 27.0% 33 8.0% 43
Oklahoma 86.9% 32 24.1% 42 8.0% 43
Nevada 85.1% 41 23.0% 45 7.9% 45
Louisiana 83.4% 47 22.5% 46 7.7% 46
Mississippi 82.3% 48 20.7% 49 7.7% 46
North Dakota 91.7% 7 27.7% 28 7.6% 48
Arkansas 84.8% 43 21.1% 48 7.5% 49
West Virginia 85.0% 42 19.2% 50 7.4% 50

what are the column headers there?

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4 minutes ago, SuingToGetAMessageBoard? said:

High school, bachelors, advanced degree with ranking.  I sorted by advanced. 

 

Note te Texas is number 1 in high school which I find unlikely.  

It's percentage of residents 25 or older with a high school diploma, not percentage of high school age residents in the State who end up with one. With that in mind it's believable due to the mass influx of people into Texas from other states. The people moving here for work are high school graduates. I mean I still doubt it but that's a key factor to keep in mind when sanity checking it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainment

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1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

It's percentage of residents 25 or older with a high school diploma, not percentage of high school age residents in the State who end up with one. With that in mind it's believable due to the mass influx of people into Texas from other states. The people moving here for work are high school graduates. I mean I still doubt it but that's a key factor to keep in mind when sanity checking it.

Huge migrant population.   Lots of backwoods.   You can’t convince me we have more than, say, Connecticut. 

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https://www.thecut.com/2018/11/will-there-be-a-runoff-georgia-kemps-abrams-election-results.html

They have until 5 PM today to get the provisional ballots taken care of.

Also, whatever happened to Kemp's accusing Democrats of election hacking two days before the election? That seems like a pretty important thing to follow up on unless it's just made up. I really want a 4th time to vote against that corrupt liar.

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https://www.thecut.com/2018/11/will-there-be-a-runoff-georgia-kemps-abrams-election-results.html
They have until 5 PM today to get the provisional ballots taken care of.
Also, whatever happened to Kemp's accusing Democrats of election hacking two days before the election? That seems like a pretty important thing to follow up on unless it's just made up. I really want a 4th time to vote against that corrupt liar.

Narrator: It was just made up.

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So he lost Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania - that’s 46 electoral votes in states that Trump personally campaigned for statewide elections this year.  

Now Arizona may flip - a State Trump only won by 4 points, and he personally campaigned for McSally this year.  That’s 11 electoral votes.  

So 57 electoral votes from states that flipped (assuming McSally loses, which is looking closer to reality).

Where does Trump make those up in two years?

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26 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

So he lost Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania - that’s 46 electoral votes in states that Trump personally campaigned for statewide elections this year.  

Now Arizona may flip - a State Trump only won by 4 points, and he personally campaigned for McSally this year.  That’s 11 electoral votes.  

So 57 electoral votes from states that flipped (assuming McSally loses, which is looking closer to reality).

Where does Trump make those up in two years?

It’s very encouraging, but I feel like the general election has to be a little bit different simple because of how narrow his focus can be now. He knows that all of the states that he still has a positive favorability rating in he is going to win in 2020 even if he personally defecates on every member of the states, maybe Arizona excluded.  

That gives him two years to focus all of his clout on the Midwest states. I think if the economy is middling or better in those states until 2020, he wins. 

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