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4 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

Did BT out himself last night?  What the fuck is going on?

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I claimed that BT logged into the wrong troll account to post some right wing crap.

BT claimed I was full of shit.

Anastasis has BTs back for some reason and apparently doesn’t like me. 
 

It’s like the standoff in the finale of the good the bad and the ugly. I’m Blondie. 

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5 hours ago, softlynow said:

Agree not to ignore, and that he brings a unique perspective and interpretation. But you’re overselling it. He spends far too much time picking a fight, and derailing a thread without actually backing up his points. He’s bizarro Escriva/Laphroaig/LonghornLaw. 

I used to think he was Linux. I still do but I used to too

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This board is so W-era conservative it has brainlock over the concept of someone to the left of Bill Clinton. #sad
The reality of my view is far more Scandinavia, but that doesn't really satisfy the imagination of the right-leaning/right-wing posting class.
I've got no problem with Cuba, though. I think they've done a pretty good job of things, especially in terms of healthcare, while suffering decades of economic sanction and warfare from extremely powerful Western forces. Us mocking Cuba's economic problems is a bit like breaking someone's legs and then making fun of him for a slow 40 time.
I'm very much OK with a heavily-regulated capitalist structure, ideally one in which the primary stockholders are the masses (right now, the top 10% hold 80% of market stock) and a strong social welfare state ensures that no one feels house/food/job insecure but still has motivation to push forward to get the nice luxuries and feels like they're working as part of something bigger than themselves.
I'd also like a very low income and wealth gap to ensure domestic tranquility and prevent the kind of street violence we're seeing today.
But again, this kind of stuff doesn't really satisfy the limited imaginations of the right/center-leaning guy who haunts these halls, so... Hugo Chavez Marx Do You Even Venezuela, bro!
 

What you’ve described is not Scandinavia.
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28 minutes ago, hpslugga said:

I'm afraid to even ask where they'd be shot if it was necessary to follow that with a comma and "executed" as if those were two separate events.

Obviously you are not an Oxford comma user.  Anastasis understands its importance.

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PORTLAND, Ore. — Former Proud Boys member Alan Swinney has been sentenced by Judge Heidi Moawad to 10 years in prison with three years post-prison supervision, Multnomah County District Attorney Mike Schmidt announced on Friday. 

Swinney has previously identified himself as a member of the far-right Proud Boys group, although a Friday press release from Schmidt's officer referred to him as a "former Proud Boy."

An Oregon jury found Swinney guilty in October on 11 charges stemming from his actions last year during the Portland protests that began after a white police officer murdered George Floyd, a Black man, in Minneapolis.

The charges included multiple counts of assault, unlawful use of mace, unlawful use of a weapon with a firearm, unlawful use of a weapon (paintball gun) and pointing a firearm at another. The incidents all occurred on Aug. 15 and Aug. 22, 2020, and Swinney was arrested on Sept. 30, 2020 and has been in Multnomah County jail since then.

Swinney injured a man's eye by shooting him in the face with a paintball gun, sprayed people directly in the face with bear mace on multiple occasions and aimed a loaded Ruger .357 magnum at a crowd of people, Shmidt's office said in a press release.

Prosecutors with the District Attorney's office presented evidence that Swinney used social media to amplify his white nationalist beliefs and to threaten and incite politically motivated violence, and that his beliefs motivated him to commit the crimes, Schmidt's office said in the press release.

At sentencing, Senior Deputy District Attorney Nathan Vasquez called Swinney a “White nationalist vigilante cow-boy” who traveled to Oregon for the specific purpose of engaging in political violence.

The 120-month sentence is slightly less than what prosecutors had sought; in a Dec. 9 memorandum, Schmidt's office recommended 130 months in prison, declaring Swinney was a danger to the community because his social media statements and testimony that showed that he "has no remorse for his actions, no desire to change and every intention of engaging in future acts of violence." 


 

https://www.kgw.com/article/news/crime/proud-boys-member-sentenced-to-10-years-for-assault/283-be493bfb-01a3-4fd0-a015-60d1b23adde8

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PORTLAND, Ore. — Former Proud Boys member Alan Swinney has been sentenced by Judge Heidi Moawad to 10 years in prison with three years post-prison supervision, Multnomah County District Attorney Mike Schmidt announced on Friday. 
Swinney has previously identified himself as a member of the far-right Proud Boys group, although a Friday press release from Schmidt's officer referred to him as a "former Proud Boy."
An Oregon jury found Swinney guilty in October on 11 charges stemming from his actions last year during the Portland protests that began after a white police officer murdered George Floyd, a Black man, in Minneapolis.
The charges included multiple counts of assault, unlawful use of mace, unlawful use of a weapon with a firearm, unlawful use of a weapon (paintball gun) and pointing a firearm at another. The incidents all occurred on Aug. 15 and Aug. 22, 2020, and Swinney was arrested on Sept. 30, 2020 and has been in Multnomah County jail since then.
Swinney injured a man's eye by shooting him in the face with a paintball gun, sprayed people directly in the face with bear mace on multiple occasions and aimed a loaded Ruger .357 magnum at a crowd of people, Shmidt's office said in a press release.
Prosecutors with the District Attorney's office presented evidence that Swinney used social media to amplify his white nationalist beliefs and to threaten and incite politically motivated violence, and that his beliefs motivated him to commit the crimes, Schmidt's office said in the press release.
At sentencing, Senior Deputy District Attorney Nathan Vasquez called Swinney a “White nationalist vigilante cow-boy” who traveled to Oregon for the specific purpose of engaging in political violence.
The 120-month sentence is slightly less than what prosecutors had sought; in a Dec. 9 memorandum, Schmidt's office recommended 130 months in prison, declaring Swinney was a danger to the community because his social media statements and testimony that showed that he "has no remorse for his actions, no desire to change and every intention of engaging in future acts of violence." 


 
https://www.kgw.com/article/news/crime/proud-boys-member-sentenced-to-10-years-for-assault/283-be493bfb-01a3-4fd0-a015-60d1b23adde8

So…he’s not so proud anymore.
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43 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

From hall of fame baseball career to county DA is not a career trajectory you see often. 

With that sweet ‘Stache, he was always gonna end up in law enforcement.  I’m just glad he went DA route and not Sheriff.  

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49 minutes ago, elfenix said:

 

Not that I'm any fan of clueless hippies and such.....but let's be clear, the job of policing not only doesn't give a shit if you're a "fan" of certain people or not, it actually requires you to disregard such feelings.  Because the law isn't about feelings.

It's really, really, really hard to see shit like this, and the released online chats and texts from police department after police department voicing casual and hideous racism and the like, and not end up at "ACAB."  I wasn't there.  I used to believe that there were some cops who would stand up for what's right.  But I think such cops are so overwhelmed by a sick-ass culture that they are irrelevant.  Functionally, ACAB.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Not that I'm any fan of clueless hippies and such.....but let's be clear, the job of policing not only doesn't give a shit if you're a "fan" of certain people or not, it actually requires you to disregard such feelings.  Because the law isn't about feelings.

It's really, really, really hard to see shit like this, and the released online chats and texts from police department after police department voicing casual and hideous racism and the like, and not end up at "ACAB."  I wasn't there.  I used to believe that there were some cops who would stand up for what's right.  But I think such cops are so overwhelmed by a sick-ass culture that they are irrelevant.  Functionally, ACAB.

They have forgotten that they work for the public, including those "dirty hippies" they despise.

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9 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Why close the meeting to the media and the left? Seems fishy.

Not really.  Operational planning and coordination meetings with cooperating law enforcement agencies are often kept secret for security purposes.  Wouldn't want the bad guys knowing what the local PD and the FBI are planning in the area.

I mean, if your point is that it's fishy that the sheriff is coordinating with a far-right group....well....yes and no.

Look up the Brownshirts and the Blackshirts.  This is how it works.

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They don’t know Marx either. Shit most of my family who talks about communism and Marxism know next to nothing about either. And when information is presented they usually respond “well, that is an academic definition.” As if to say that one having a little knowledge on the subject is worth less than their feelings about what Marxism and Communism are.

It is really a perfect circular logical defense for the willfully ignorant who exist is a perpetual state of cognitive dissonance.
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19 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

In all my years following the Dead, Phish, and other hippie bands, from coast to coast, I’ve met a lot of hippies. Never once did I hear any of them talking of Marx (nor carrying pictures of Chairman Mao). 

That's a good point actually.  Voted for a lot of Republicans over the years and over those years, saw 23 Dead shows in a dozen states; and dozens of others between Phish, Widespread, Blues Traveler, et. al.  And with all those shows, lots and lots and lots of time in the parking areas beforehand chatting it up with folks from all over the country and every walk of life.  And when I'm drinking or smoking, always down for a deep conversation.  And I bet I had maybe five political discussions with hippies over all those hours and hours spent at shows and beforehand.  And every one of 'em was just about legalizing weed and maybe touched on criminal justice reform.  That was about it.  

I live in a liberal pocket of a liberal town, work part-time on a very liberal campus, and serve on a number of liberal-leaning organizations and non-profits.  And other than some cursory mentions of income inequality, I never hear about Marxism, Socialism, CRT, or even Keynesian economics...except out of the mouths of Trumpers who got ahold of some talking points from Tucker Carlson the night before. 

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A friend of a friend whose family manages a huge equity fund told me once that all the hedge funds recruit self professed Marxists out of school because they have the most accurate understanding of how capitalism actually works in the real world. Not fully sure if it’s an exaggeration, of course, but I find it amusing.

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