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27 minutes ago, burntorangebongos said:

Fuck me. I still haven't been vaxxed.  I try so hard to be careful but the grocery stores are going to get more dangerous. Maybe I should start going to Target since they will still have a mandatory mask requirement to enter their store. 

I heard HEB is going to request a mask but not require it and I don't know what Randall's will do. Fuck me. i started going to Artemis outdoor patio to dine. I am going to stop doing that until I get vaxxed now. 

HEB and Randalls are mask-optional.  Target, WalMart and Sprouts are mask-required.  Trust me, I've been doing curbside for a year now, and for every day groceries (dairy, produce, pantry items, dry goods, maybe not so much meat) you can do just fine with WalMart and Target.  Shift your shopping strategy.

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3 hours ago, TexPx said:

Restaurants in Dallas-Fort Worth requiring masks:

Wayward Coffee, which opened in May 2020, has never been able to operate without its employees wearing masks. It plans to keep its COVID-19 protocols in place, which includes asking customers and employees to mask up.
Wayward Coffee, which opened in May 2020, has never been able to operate without its employees wearing masks. It plans to keep its COVID-19 protocols in place, which includes asking customers and employees to mask up.(Jeffrey McWhorter / Special Contributor)
8 Cloves at the Dallas Farmers Market
AllGood Cafe in Deep Ellum
Armadillo Ale Works in Denton
Armoury D.E. in Deep Ellum
The Basement Lounge in Fort Worth
The Bearded Monk in Denton
Beto & Son in West Dallas
Billy Can Can in Victory Park
Bisous Bisous Patisserie in Uptown
Black Coffee in Fort Worth
Blackland Distillery in Fort Worth
The Blue Fish in Allen, Fort Worth, Irving, Plano, Galleria Dallas and Lower Greenville in Dallas
The Boiled Owl Tavern in Fort Worth
Boulevardier in Bishop Arts
Burgerim in the West End
Cattleack Barbeque in Dallas/Farmers Branch
Cedar Springs Tap House in Dallas
CiboDivino Marketplace in West Dallas
CocoAndre Chocolatier in Oak Cliff
Cookie Society in Frisco
Cox Farms Market in West Dallas
Cris and John in Far North Dallas
Cultivar Coffee in East Dallas
Detour Doughnuts and Coffee in Frisco
Division Brewing in Arlington
Dream Cafe on Mockingbird Lane and in the Quadrangle, both in Dallas
Dude, Sweet Chocolate in Oak Cliff
Dugg Burger on Garland Road and Walnut Hill Lane, both in Dallas
Fiction Coffee near downtown Dallas
Flying Fish in Addison, Arlington, Fort Worth, Garland, Plano and all Dallas locations
Flying Saucer in Fort Worth, Rockwall and Coppell
Four Bullets Brewery in Richardson
Four Corners Brewing in the Cedars
Full City Rooster in the Cedars
Funky Picnic Brewery & Cafe in Fort Worth
Gemma in East Dallas
Gold Rush Cafe in East Dallas
Haute Sweets Patisserie in Lake Highlands
Hillside Tavern in East Dallas
Hive Bakery in Flower Mound
Homewood near Highland Park
Houndstooth Coffee on Henderson Avenue, Sylvan Avenue and North Central Expressway at Walnut Hill, all in Dallas
Invasion in East Dallas
Korean Street Eats in Carrollton
Las Almas Rotas in Exposition Park
La Casita Bakeshop in Richardson
Leaves Book and Tea Shop in Fort Worth
Liberty Burger, all five locations
The Local Oak in Oak Cliff
The Londoner in Addison
Los Vaqueros in Fort Worth and Weatherford
Lucia in Oak Cliff
Mario Bros. Tacos in Dallas and Plano
Meddlesome Moth in Dallas Design District
Melt Ice Creams in Fort Worth and Dallas
Miriam Latina Cocina in Uptown
Nature’s Plate in Plano and Dallas, on Preston Road and on Northwest Highway
Neighborhood Services
Nickel City in Fort Worth
Noble Coyote Coffee Roasters in Exposition Park
Nobu in Uptown
Oddfellows in Oak Cliff
One90 Smoked Meats in Lake Highlands
Opening Bell Coffee in the Cedars
Parigi on Oak Lawn Avenue
Partenope in downtown Dallas
Peaberry Coffee in Oak Cliff
Pho is for Lovers in Dallas and Richardson
Proper in Fort Worth
Rapscallion on Lowest Greenville
Resident Taqueria in East Dallas
Ricky’s Hot Chicken in Richardson
Rodeo Goat in Fort Worth, Dallas, Plano, Rockwall and Coppell
Roots Chicken Shak in Plano
Round-Up Saloon near Oak Lawn
Ruins in Deep Ellum
Sachet near Highland Park
Sandwich Hag in the Cedars
Salum near Uptown
S&J’s Hot Chicken in northwest Dallas
Society Bakery in East Dallas
Spiral Diner in Fort Worth, Dallas and Denton
Streets Fine Chicken near Oak Lawn Avenue
Swizzle on Lowest Greenville
Tarantula Tiki Lounge in Fort Worth
Teasom in Uptown
Ten Bells Tavern in Oak Cliff
Trova Wine Bar near Highland Park
Twilite Lounge in Fort Worth
Uchi and Uchiba in Uptown
The Usual in Fort Worth
Val’s Cheesecakes on Greenville Avenue and Maple Avenue, both in Dallas
Veritas Wine Room in East Dallas
Wayward Coffee in Oak Cliff
Whisk Crepes in West Dallas
Wits End in Deep Ellum
Zaap Kitchen on Fitzhugh Avenue, Buckner Boulevard and Greenville Avenue, all in Dallas
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I'm gonna guess Toasted will never be on this list.

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2 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Posted this in the Covid thread also.  Hoping for some guidance. 

Dumb question.  I have an appointment tomorrow for the Pfizer shot 2 hours away.  My niece just booked me an appointment at HEB only an hour away but its Moderna vaccine.  Should I prefer one brand over the other or does the not having to drive 2 hours each way make the difference?  Is one better against the variants?  One gonna make me sicker?  What say Surly?

 

Moderna is 28 days between shots, Pfizer 21.  Quicker to full protection with Pfizer but longer drive.  

I got my second Pfizer today at 11:45 am.  No side effects +12 hours other than mild soreness at injection site.

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21 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Moderna is 28 days between shots, Pfizer 21.  Quicker to full protection with Pfizer but longer drive.  

I got my second Pfizer today at 11:45 am.  No side effects +12 hours other than mild soreness at injection site.

it's purely anecdotal, from this website and from friends, but seems like i hear more reports of bad side effects from Moderna than Pfizer.

2 hour drive might also be worth it so you can get the second shot a week sooner.

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51 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

It's pretty amazing that a year into this, we still have to have this conversation about masks being a community mitigation measure, rather than a personal freedom issue based on personal protection. It's almost as if some people are FUCKING ASSHOLES.

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5 hours ago, TexPx said:

Restaurants in Dallas-Fort Worth requiring masks:

Wayward Coffee, which opened in May 2020, has never been able to operate without its employees wearing masks. It plans to keep its COVID-19 protocols in place, which includes asking customers and employees to mask up.
Wayward Coffee, which opened in May 2020, has never been able to operate without its employees wearing masks. It plans to keep its COVID-19 protocols in place, which includes asking customers and employees to mask up.(Jeffrey McWhorter / Special Contributor)
8 Cloves at the Dallas Farmers Market
AllGood Cafe in Deep Ellum
Armadillo Ale Works in Denton
Armoury D.E. in Deep Ellum
The Basement Lounge in Fort Worth
The Bearded Monk in Denton
Beto & Son in West Dallas
Billy Can Can in Victory Park
Bisous Bisous Patisserie in Uptown
Black Coffee in Fort Worth
Blackland Distillery in Fort Worth
The Blue Fish in Allen, Fort Worth, Irving, Plano, Galleria Dallas and Lower Greenville in Dallas
The Boiled Owl Tavern in Fort Worth
Boulevardier in Bishop Arts
Burgerim in the West End
Cattleack Barbeque in Dallas/Farmers Branch
Cedar Springs Tap House in Dallas
CiboDivino Marketplace in West Dallas
CocoAndre Chocolatier in Oak Cliff
Cookie Society in Frisco
Cox Farms Market in West Dallas
Cris and John in Far North Dallas
Cultivar Coffee in East Dallas
Detour Doughnuts and Coffee in Frisco
Division Brewing in Arlington
Dream Cafe on Mockingbird Lane and in the Quadrangle, both in Dallas
Dude, Sweet Chocolate in Oak Cliff
Dugg Burger on Garland Road and Walnut Hill Lane, both in Dallas
Fiction Coffee near downtown Dallas
Flying Fish in Addison, Arlington, Fort Worth, Garland, Plano and all Dallas locations
Flying Saucer in Fort Worth, Rockwall and Coppell
Four Bullets Brewery in Richardson
Four Corners Brewing in the Cedars
Full City Rooster in the Cedars
Funky Picnic Brewery & Cafe in Fort Worth
Gemma in East Dallas
Gold Rush Cafe in East Dallas
Haute Sweets Patisserie in Lake Highlands
Hillside Tavern in East Dallas
Hive Bakery in Flower Mound
Homewood near Highland Park
Houndstooth Coffee on Henderson Avenue, Sylvan Avenue and North Central Expressway at Walnut Hill, all in Dallas
Invasion in East Dallas
Korean Street Eats in Carrollton
Las Almas Rotas in Exposition Park
La Casita Bakeshop in Richardson
Leaves Book and Tea Shop in Fort Worth
Liberty Burger, all five locations
The Local Oak in Oak Cliff
The Londoner in Addison
Los Vaqueros in Fort Worth and Weatherford
Lucia in Oak Cliff
Mario Bros. Tacos in Dallas and Plano
Meddlesome Moth in Dallas Design District
Melt Ice Creams in Fort Worth and Dallas
Miriam Latina Cocina in Uptown
Nature’s Plate in Plano and Dallas, on Preston Road and on Northwest Highway
Neighborhood Services
Nickel City in Fort Worth
Noble Coyote Coffee Roasters in Exposition Park
Nobu in Uptown
Oddfellows in Oak Cliff
One90 Smoked Meats in Lake Highlands
Opening Bell Coffee in the Cedars
Parigi on Oak Lawn Avenue
Partenope in downtown Dallas
Peaberry Coffee in Oak Cliff
Pho is for Lovers in Dallas and Richardson
Proper in Fort Worth
Rapscallion on Lowest Greenville
Resident Taqueria in East Dallas
Ricky’s Hot Chicken in Richardson
Rodeo Goat in Fort Worth, Dallas, Plano, Rockwall and Coppell
Roots Chicken Shak in Plano
Round-Up Saloon near Oak Lawn
Ruins in Deep Ellum
Sachet near Highland Park
Sandwich Hag in the Cedars
Salum near Uptown
S&J’s Hot Chicken in northwest Dallas
Society Bakery in East Dallas
Spiral Diner in Fort Worth, Dallas and Denton
Streets Fine Chicken near Oak Lawn Avenue
Swizzle on Lowest Greenville
Tarantula Tiki Lounge in Fort Worth
Teasom in Uptown
Ten Bells Tavern in Oak Cliff
Trova Wine Bar near Highland Park
Twilite Lounge in Fort Worth
Uchi and Uchiba in Uptown
The Usual in Fort Worth
Val’s Cheesecakes on Greenville Avenue and Maple Avenue, both in Dallas
Veritas Wine Room in East Dallas
Wayward Coffee in Oak Cliff
Whisk Crepes in West Dallas
Wits End in Deep Ellum
Zaap Kitchen on Fitzhugh Avenue, Buckner Boulevard and Greenville Avenue, all in Dallas
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I heard the dining room at Al Biernat's on Oak Lawn burst into applause when Abbott made his announcement Tuesday. I *believe* Al is strongly urging mask wearing -- and all employees would wear them -- but he wasn't going to get into any altercations over the issue.

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3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

JNJ is for the lazy low risk people. PFE and MRNA are for the people we need to maximize protection for, and those that aren't incapable of keeping a follow-up visit (this is actually what most of our vaccines schedules are built around, the lowest common denominator). 

Better messaging than the noise we receive now. Thanks. That helps - seriously.

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6 hours ago, Walden Ponderer said:

Y'all makin' it really hard not to be smug about moving away, I tell ya what. Texas has been synonymous with "bad government" for so long now, I'm not sure it is fixable, even if every jot and tittle of racist election law were thrown out tomorrow. The rest of the country isn't exactly swimming along in blissful prosperity at the moment, but you do hear "at least we're not in Texas" an awful lot.

Lived in four different cities outside of Texas.  Many admire Texas but jus as many think we are backwards hillbillies.   I’m in California now.  Do some people hate masks here?   Absolutely.  But I haven’t run into anyone at the stores that refuses to wear masks.  Not sure about bars though

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8 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

Moderna is 28 days between shots, Pfizer 21.  Quicker to full protection with Pfizer but longer drive.  

I got my second Pfizer today at 11:45 am.  No side effects +12 hours other than mild soreness at injection site.

 

8 hours ago, Jive Turkey said:

it's purely anecdotal, from this website and from friends, but seems like i hear more reports of bad side effects from Moderna than Pfizer.

2 hour drive might also be worth it so you can get the second shot a week sooner.

If I had seen these posts last night I may have gone with Pfizer but I ended up cancelling the Pfizer shot last night so hopefully someone else would have access to it and chose Moderna simply because its closer.  I wonder if there is a chance when I get to HEB if I ask the pharmacist if they can give me Pfizer instead they will or is it not even worth asking.   If I die because I took the Moderna shot over Pfizer will some of you lawyers on Surly sue Moderna on my behalf.  I hear there is lots of money in suing pharmaceutical companies.

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2 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

 

If I had seen these posts last night I may have gone with Pfizer but I ended up cancelling the Pfizer shot last night so hopefully someone else would have access to it and chose Moderna simply because its closer.  I wonder if there is a chance when I get to HEB if I ask the pharmacist if they can give me Pfizer instead they will or is it not even worth asking.   If I die because I took the Moderna shot over Pfizer will some of you lawyers on Surly sue Moderna on my behalf.  I hear there is lots of money in suing pharmaceutical companies.

Sue everybody.

 

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Honestly while I was extremely lucky to get a Moderna first dose, and even luckier to get a second, I think right now I might lean toward the single dose J&J vaccine.  Just to not have the extra days waiting for the second dose.   But fuck take ANY dose you can get.  The more of us are protected at least to some degree the more we move toward herd immunity.  

I guess in my mind the potential advantages of the Moderna/Pfizer vaccines is the ability to likely quickly develop booster for the new strains.  

My science mind is curious about whether the Federal Gov will test whether or not the new boosters developed will work to supplement the J&J vaccine as well?  Seems like if you get an immune response with ANY of the vaccines then you likely would get additional immune response from a booster no matter the manufacturer?  

 

Although as I am about to hit send I realize I am replying to the Abbott thread, where science rarely if ever is contemplated by the man in charge.

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10 hours ago, burntorangebongos said:

wrong. My wearing a mask protects others from me. It matters if a bunch of people don't mask up and makes it worse for me. 

This.  God damn how are we a year into this and people still don't understand how masks work?

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4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This.  God damn how are we a year into this and people still don't understand how masks work?

Imagine infinite stupidity.  Then double it.  Then square it.

Then you will have an inkling of the depth and breadth of American Stupidity.

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Empowered Stupidity.  

I think it was Johnny Rage who coined the term on another thread.  

We used to be able to openly discriminate and mistreat these people, now we have to let them actually take at turn at being in charge.  Sickening.

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11 hours ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

My local school board announced they will be sticking with the mask mandate for the rest of the school year.  Makes me happy but I can’t tell you how many people are posting crap about how they want to vote the superintendent out and they are going to send their kids and tell them not to wear a mask.  There is one dude in my neighborhood that is shall we say, a total asshole, that is still posting stuff like “I can’t believe we are still making the kids wear masks for what is just the Flu”.  I read this garbage and I find myself chanting “serenity now” over and over again sitting on my couch.  

Why are you paying money to live among these people?

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Fuck me. I still haven't been vaxxed.  I try so hard to be careful but the grocery stores are going to get more dangerous. Maybe I should start going to Target since they will still have a mandatory mask requirement to enter their store. 
I heard HEB is going to request a mask but not require it and I don't know what Randall's will do. Fuck me. i started going to Artemis outdoor patio to dine. I am going to stop doing that until I get vaxxed now. 
He could have waited until a majority of us are vaxxed, fucking asshole. Governor Hot Wheels needs to roll under some sickly Post Oaks. I hope I get out of this year without getting sick.  Mask wearing is the biggest safety tool we had. He threw me under the bus. I fucking will take this personally and make sure he loses the governorship. Fuck his cripple ass.
Artemis is owned by a known progressive, I'd be shocked if they get sloppy with mask policy.
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11 hours ago, Both Tacos said:
11 hours ago, burntorangebongos said:
Fuck me. I still haven't been vaxxed.  I try so hard to be careful but the grocery stores are going to get more dangerous. Maybe I should start going to Target since they will still have a mandatory mask requirement to enter their store. 
I heard HEB is going to request a mask but not require it and I don't know what Randall's will do. Fuck me. i started going to Artemis outdoor patio to dine. I am going to stop doing that until I get vaxxed now. 
He could have waited until a majority of us are vaxxed, fucking asshole. Governor Hot Wheels needs to roll under some sickly Post Oaks. I hope I get out of this year without getting sick.  Mask wearing is the biggest safety tool we had. He threw me under the bus. I fucking will take this personally and make sure he loses the governorship. Fuck his cripple ass.

Did you throw away your masks? Doesn't matter what others do if you are protecting yourself.

Are you dealing meth out of your house?  No?  Ok, then don't worry about your neighbor dealing meth.

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11 hours ago, burntorangebongos said:

Fuck me. I still haven't been vaxxed.  I try so hard to be careful but the grocery stores are going to get more dangerous. Maybe I should start going to Target since they will still have a mandatory mask requirement to enter their store. 

I heard HEB is going to request a mask but not require it and I don't know what Randall's will do. Fuck me. i started going to Artemis outdoor patio to dine. I am going to stop doing that until I get vaxxed now. 

He could have waited until a majority of us are vaxxed, fucking asshole. Governor Hot Wheels needs to roll under some sickly Post Oaks. I hope I get out of this year without getting sick.  Mask wearing is the biggest safety tool we had. He threw me under the bus. I fucking will take this personally and make sure he loses the governorship. Fuck his cripple ass.

Do curbside from HEB - we've been doing it for a year and very few complaints.  Order most of your stuff curbside, and if there is something you really want to pick out yourself, make a quick trip into the store and grab it.  That will minimize the amount of time you're in there.

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5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

They don't want their employees to have to deal with MAGAts who militantly refuse to wear a mask

Understood, but it will mean that they also will not have to deal with former customers who also do not want to deal with MAGAts who refuse to wear a mask.

 

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Just now, pantone159 said:

Understood, but it will mean that they also will not have to deal with former customers who also do not want to deal with MAGAts who refuse to wear a mask.

I agree, HEB should have stood their ground on this. They hire fucking SEAL Security to walk around with german shepherds and blacked out security guards packing guns, they shouldn't have to bend to the will of the chads and karens of TX. It's just fucking idiotic to put their employees and immuno-compromised customers at heightened risk.

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Just now, Captainant said:

I agree, HEB should have stood their ground on this. They hire fucking SEAL Security to walk around with german shepherds and blacked out security guards packing guns, they shouldn't have to bend to the will of the chads and karens of TX. It's just fucking idiotic to put their employees and immuno-compromised customers at heightened risk.

Very disappointed in HEB 

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I can't blame HEB for this. The state of Texas completely sold them down the river and left them in a no-win situation where they would be alienating a significant portion of their customer base no matter what they decide. Just a complete abdication of responsibility and courage by our state government.

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6 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Held off on getting the vaccine as long as I could to allow the olds and sickly to get theirs. As soon as Abbott did his declaration I started mass F5’ing HEB stores and have an appointment in Gonzales tomorrow cause BMI

Same here.  How Wheels changed the rules, so every man for himself.  Got a 4 hour drive (one way) tomorrow to get mine, worth it though.

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3 minutes ago, Dr. Teeth said:

What sucks more is that all of this will work for them.

Of course it will.

We messicans are to blame for [checks notes of all GQP history]....fucking EVERYTHING.  Disease? Crime? The shitty fiscal position of any gov't entity?  Yep, all of it.

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14 minutes ago, BradInATX said:

I can't blame HEB for this. The state of Texas completely sold them down the river and left them in a no-win situation where they would be alienating a significant portion of their customer base no matter what they decide. Just a complete abdication of responsibility and courage by our state government.

They could still do the morally right thing and require masks.  They chose not to.   I can blame HEB. 

Other businesses have already said fuck you Abbott, we are still requiring masks.  HEB chose not to make the hard decision. 

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If Abbott can figure out a way to blame the ERCOT mess on Illegal Immigrants, he wont get his ass hauled in front of the Legislature.  Oh wait, too late.  Announcement forthcoming.  His magic show didn't work after all.  

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