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3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

You’re acting like the reason the party sucks. 

Buddy, you spent 2021-2024 echoing Republican propaganda. You can get all the way fucked.

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Just now, wildcat09 said:

You're acting like statsman does in the Israel thread.

You've got one piece of evidence pointing in the direction that he's a Nazi. The DC/corporate/AIPAC people are more upset about a symbol tied to a genocide that happened generations ago than they are about a candidate (Janet Mills) who hasn't condemned, and if elected may very well contribute to, an ongoing genocide that our government is funding. I'm not going to take this "Secret Nazi" thing seriously until there's stronger evidence of it. The fact these pro-Israel people are having to resort to this kind of Reddit sleuthing to support this Secret Nazi theory is laughable. And there's very little reason to think Mainers are buying it.

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Is there really any evidence that he harbors Nazi or white supremacist aims aside from that tattoo?  
 

The various online statements of controversy read like the stuff that gets written on here every day.

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18 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Buddy, you spent 2021-2024 echoing Republican propaganda. You can get all the way fucked.

Keep fucking that chicken buddy but you and people like you are the reason the party isn’t popular and are losing people by the day. 

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6 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

Is there really any evidence that he harbors Nazi or white supremacist aims aside from that tattoo?  
 

The various online statements of controversy read like the stuff that gets written on here every day.

None.

I'm not worried at all that he's a Nazi. I'm gonna say that for a dude like him, the biggest threat would come from leaked DMs or texts from his bachelor days. They're clearly motivated to track down and moneywhip every shitty Tinder date he ever had, and I'm sure they'll find a way to make him look bad. The real question is if he actually did something disqualifying. I wouldn't be shocked. Disappointed, but not shocked.

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7 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Keep fucking that chicken buddy but you and people like you are the reason the party isn’t popular and are losing people by the day. 

So Democrats should be more Republican-y.

Cool.

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9 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Picking up all the closet dem nazis obviously 

The DNC can win back the working class with *checks notes* "NO MORE WHITE DUDES IN GOVERNMENT"

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I’m curious how his Reddit account came to light? Did he post his personal name or some shit? Do they have his second account for the porn subs or just his main account? 

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18 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Again, he's very obviously lying about not knowing what it was.

While you're almost certainly correct it should be noted that I "am part of" conversations on surly all the time where I have no fucking idea what lots of the posts say. I don't have an ignore list but I certainly scroll right past lots of posts by known morons. 

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46 minutes ago, Covri said:

I’m curious how his Reddit account came to light? Did he post his personal name or some shit? Do they have his second account for the porn subs or just his main account? 

You think he had enough sense to have a second account for porn subs?

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56 minutes ago, Covri said:

I’m curious how his Reddit account came to light? Did he post his personal name or some shit? Do they have his second account for the porn subs or just his main account? 

Oppo research firms are basically paid professional stalkers who hire licensed private investigators. Private Investigators have access to advanced databases that are used to track down people that are hard to find, and they subscribe to other databases that they can consult to get a better idea where the guy lived and worked, and who he hung out with, in his adolescent and adult life. The stalkers and private investigators use these clues to make educated guesses about where he would hang out online. In many cases, the phone number used to sign up for an e-mail service, and the e-mail address he used to sign up for a social media account, will come from licensed private investigator's databases.

That helps narrow down where to look. Even if Platner had deleted his digital footprint, his ex-coworkers and drinking buddies probably haven't, and if you download their entire social media and feed it to an AI, the AI can figure out when those friends are tagging or talking about Platner. If any of those "mentions" revealed a potential screenname, that's an investigative lead for the stalkers to check up on.

If you know his potential screen name, you check the Reddit archives and feed that to an AI. The AI can figure out which comments are consistent with all the other known information about Platner. The stalkers and private investigators review the AI's conclusions and confidently report to their client (Schumer and Mills) that the Reddit comments probably were made by him. The Schumer/Mills team leaks the info to a journalist, who corroborates the conclusions, and the journalist reaches out to Platner's campaign for comment, where he will confirm that the Reddit comments were made by him right before the story runs.

None of the above even requires Snowden-level espionage. Meanwhile, the stalkers and PIs have already reached out to people from different periods of his life, learning as much as they can about where a possible skeleton could be buried. This stuff takes longer to investigate and validate, but they have an unlimited budget so I am pretty sure they are trying to get his ex-friends to check in their attic for old computers from 2004 that could be sent to a digital forensics vendor to retrieve AOL instant messenger conversations from when Platner was a teenager because he probably used the n-word, told racist jokes, and was interested in downloading porn at that age. 

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3 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

I don't know how to relate to you if you can't like this dude.

 

Cuomo fucking laughed and agreed that Mamdani would cheer another 9/11? Holy shit. What a fucking asshole.

Why is everybody such a fucking piece of shit now? I mean even Cuomo knows that is bullshit. He is just saying it to be a dick.

13 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Couldn’t find a better thread. She’s just an awful human being. 
 

 

It is little comfort to me that maybe sleeping on her big pile of gold she got from selling out burdens her concience a little. Fuck.

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3 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

Why is everybody such a fucking piece of shit now? I mean even Cuomo knows that is bullshit. He is just saying it to be a dick.

Thankfully no one is really buying it, he's just outing himself as a complete piece of shit and ruining what little remains of his reputation forever for nothing, he has no chance of winning. Even Curtis Sliwa's crazy ass is being far, and I mean far more charitable to Mamdani than Cuomo is.

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On 10/23/2025 at 2:30 PM, chainsaw said:

That's valid. Voters in Maine find outsiders untrustworthy, and I'm sure there are many vocal leftists in Maine who will abstain from the Dem primary because they'd rather participate in the Green Party primary. Coming at this from an electoral standpoint, Platner's politics are much better than those of Mills or Collins, even if his politics are worse than some of the other theoretical alternatives, none of whom have a prayer because if they did we'd already have heard of them.

Don't like him because he probably did bad stuff while deployed? I can respect that. No disagreement from me, there, just as I wouldn't criticize someone who refused to vote for Harris due to her weak position on the genocide in Gaza. Murder, war crimes, and genocide are simply a bridge too far for some people, and that's ok.

Don't like him because he used to say the f-slur and had questionable views on race? I respect that as well, but I disagree with the mentality behind refusing to allow people to shed their prior bad opinions. This is especially counterproductive in the face of so many people (especially men under 50) who were reliable Democratic voters in their 20s and 30s but who moved away from the party around the same time as #MeToo. The opposition is actively recruiting converts. Hell, even Donald Trump himself had been a self-identifying Liberal Elite for much of his adult life. So, it stands to reason that if the right is willing to forgive people for their prior progressive views and embrace converts, the left should be willing to forgive people for their prior regressive views and welcome ex-chuds. Better late than never, and we truly need all hands on deck. TLDR, unlike murder and war crimes, I don't think having had bad opinions in the past should be categorically disqualifying.

Don't like him because he's too dumb to realize he had a Nazi tattoo? I find that uncharitable to him and strategically short-sighted. I'm not a history buff by any means, but even in the areas where I consider myself to be more knowledgeable than most people, I still learn new things on a regular basis. Until more evidence comes out, I'm going to allow him the benefit of the doubt. Even if he told anonymous strangers online that he studied history, that doesn't automatically mean he downloaded encyclopedic knowledge of Nazi iconography or that he was shirtless around someone who would have known that. And according to him, the people who should have known that, the ones responsible for verifying that he was eligible to serve in a different branch of the Armed Forces and to have whatever security clearance he needed for his stint with Blackwater, seemed not to have noticed, either.

Calling him a secret Nazi, on a day like today where no other evidence of his supposed Nazi views has been publicized, is not something I would take seriously. If Mainers disagree, let them be the ones to say so. As has been mentioned before, if he's as dumb as some people think he is, then it's more likely than not that future and more damaging oppo will come to light that would disqualify him for other reasons.

This does seem very coordinated, and the reason I believe they're coming after him with so much firepower is because they are terrified of another Mamdani (whom they arrogantly believed would lose the primary) and want to take him out now before his support and profile have grown beyond a certain point of no return. It's intended as a warning shot to any other working class candidates who would ever dare to run on a similar platform. The message is that politics is only for Type-A, Student Government, social climbers like Pete Buttigieg who were grown in a lab to become politicians. Working people with checkered pasts need not apply, unless they embrace MAGA.

We'll see what else comes out about him. I think it's a mistake for the left to treat veterans as irredeemable, but I respect and understand the opposing viewpoint.

I agree with pretty much all of this and am convinced that this was orchestrated by the Mills campaign, it being brought out just a week or two after she announced her candidacy. That being said, the Collins campaign is more than capable of unveiling the same shit and would have done so 11 months from now to sink him at the worst time. Better to air this out early and let Maine voters decide.

Don't get tattoos, kids.

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4 hours ago, Valmy77 said:

Cuomo fucking laughed and agreed that Mamdani would cheer another 9/11? Holy shit. What a fucking asshole.

Why is everybody such a fucking piece of shit now? I mean even Cuomo knows that is bullshit. He is just saying it to be a dick.

being a dick wins you elections now and is very welcoming when you join their party or something. 

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6 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

being a dick wins you elections now and is very welcoming when you join their party or something. 

Yeah Trump proved conclusively that behaving like a 14 year old boy wins elections.  This America, man.

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah Trump proved conclusively that behaving like a 14 year old boy wins elections.  This America, man.

He proved it's non-disqualifying, but there is a double standard that favors the interests of capital and strict social hierarchies.

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https://www.axios.com/2025/10/23/democrats-government-shutdown-ossoff-warnock-schumer

 

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Sens. Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock voted with Republicans on Thursday on the government shutdown, after previously rejecting every GOP measure to re-open the government or fund parts of it.

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On 10/24/2025 at 9:02 PM, Valmy77 said:

Cuomo fucking laughed and agreed that Mamdani would cheer another 9/11? Holy shit. What a fucking asshole.

Why is everybody such a fucking piece of shit now? I mean even Cuomo knows that is bullshit. He is just saying it to be a dick.

Feels like we are in a simulation. Cuomo is a comic book villain.

Basic values have just disappeared. 

 

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56 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Democrats have worse approval ratings than Trump for a reason, and the reason isn't that they're too far to the Left.

Jonathan Chait and Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson and Matthew Yglesias would like a word.

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Lots of interesting data to pore through that I’m still digesting. 
 

 

Where's the actual report? I don't have twitter and the semafor article doesn't link to it.

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I dunno if Carville had any actual involvement, but his endorsement sure doesn't help them in my eyes. I think the bigger problem is that this is just more of a certain type of Dem strategist pretending that politics can be Moneyball'ed and they're all Billy Beane. Like this shit was just Biden's presidency and then Harris' campaign (remember how much Carville praised her for running to the middle?):

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1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

I dunno if Carville had any actual involvement, but his endorsement sure doesn't help them in my eyes. I think the bigger problem is that this is just more of a certain type of Dem strategist pretending that politics can be Moneyball'ed and they're all Billy Beane. Like this shit was just Biden's presidency and then Harris' campaign (remember how much Carville praised her for running to the middle?):

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the 5th bullet point: "frustrations with the status quo are not the same as a desire for socialism" goddamn that needs to be repeated ad nauseum to maga

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You can always just not do the interview with Issac Chotiner and I’d expect a WH press secretary to know that. 
 

https://archive.ph/2025.10.27-221339/https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why-bidens-white-house-press-secretary-is-leaving-the-democratic-party
 

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Many people who did not think she could win wanted to replace her on the ticket because they thought beating Donald Trump was the most important thing for America, for any number of reasons having to do with race, foreign policy, whatever else, and that it was imperative to win the election. So what I was confused by was you saying that you didn’t think Harris could win, but then you attack other people who didn’t seem to think Harris could win by saying they were insulting her.

Yes. Well, again, I wish you could walk in my body and live my life, and then I think you could understand what I’m saying. I really do, because I think any other Black woman would understand what I’m saying. What it truly is is that it wasn’t just an open primary or a brokered convention. There was disrespect to her as well. It was discounting her and her position and who she was. That’s what it felt like. This is a very unique thing that I don’t think anyone would understand unless you walked in our bodies and lived our lives. My feeling was not about her not being qualified. It was about people not being able to see past her being Black and a woman. It’s not that confusing for us because we live this life day in and day out.

I’m not trying to discount what you’re saying about Harris, but Biden is not an L.G.B.T.Q. Black woman, and you have the same feelings about how he was treated. This is what you keep going back to in the book. Sometimes I worry about losing sight of the fact that we’re dealing with a Presidential election here, and the feelings of Joe Biden are less important than the fate of the country.

You’re telling me about the feelings of Joe Biden, blah, blah, blah, but Joe Biden is out of the picture. He’s out of the picture.

Yeah, he sure is.

He’s out of the picture now and we lost.

This is what you wrote your book about. I am not bringing this up randomly.

No, I know, but you just said that to me. Right? So I’m just responding to it. He’s out of the picture. He stepped down, he’s out of the picture, and we lost. The book for me is really about the moment that we’re in. When I talk about the broken White House in the subtitle, I’m talking about the Trump White House. So what are the Democratic leadership actually doing to beat back and fight back? What are they doing?

I’m not here to answer for the Democratic leadership. I would—

You’ve been answering for the Democratic leadership. [Laughs.] You were giving me their answers.

I didn’t talk to anyone in Democratic leadership. I was just trying to remember how I and others felt watching Joe Biden in those weeks, that it felt like he was too old to be President for another four years, and too old to win.

And here’s the thing: That’s your experience. That’s the experience that you had. ♦

 

Posted
2 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

I dunno if Carville had any actual involvement, but his endorsement sure doesn't help them in my eyes. I think the bigger problem is that this is just more of a certain type of Dem strategist pretending that politics can be Moneyball'ed and they're all Billy Beane. Like this shit was just Biden's presidency and then Harris' campaign (remember how much Carville praised her for running to the middle?):

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Yeah, about that:

1. Kamala Harris tried this. Nobody remembers her "opportunity economy" pitch?

In case anyone forgot:

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https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/FINAL-MASTER-PLATFORM.pdf

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Chapter Three: Lowering Costs
Today, our economy is growing, wages are rising, and a record number of Americans have good jobs. But for too many hard-working families, the cost of living is too high. Lowering costs is Democrats’ number one economic priority. We’re using every tool to bring prices down on health insurance and prescription drugs, including negotiating the price of commonly used drugs for diabetes and heart failure; and on housing, child care, internet, banking, credit cards, and more. We have more to do, but our actions are already putting thousands of dollars a year back in people’s pockets. Those savings add up, and Democrats will keep fighting until every American feels them. When the pandemic disrupted supply chains, everyday items became hard to get, raising prices. When Russia invaded Ukraine, food and gas prices spiked more. As companies’ costs went up, they raised prices, too. President Biden worked across industries to ease supply bottlenecks and get goods and energy flowing again. He delivered, and inflation has since dropped two-thirds from its peak.

But some companies haven’t passed those new savings on to consumers. Their costs have come down, but they’ve kept prices high anyway, boosting profits. Corporate profits have more than doubled since 2017. Last year, after-tax profit ratios for corporations outside the financial sector were their highest in 90 years. President Biden’s lowering costs agenda is historic in scope, attacking the issue from everyangle to help cut costs for consumers, crack down on price gouging, and get companies to use their record profits to reduce prices long-term. It’s also investing in making things in America again to boost supply, push down prices, and bring jobs home.

Donald Trump hasn’t offered a single solution to lower families’ costs. He wants to drag America backwards, with extreme import tariffs that will make life more expensive for folks nationwide. And for corporations that hiked prices and doubled profits since the pandemic, Trump wants to reward them with a massive tax cut. Independent analysts say his MAGA tax and tariff plans will increase inflation, cost 3 million American jobs, and slow growth, triggering a recession in his first year back in office. Trump’s plan will increase costs for working families by $2,500 a year.
Today, America has built its way back into the strongest economic recovery in the world. Democrats won’t let Trump throw that all away.

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GOOD JOBS
These generational investments are transforming our economy, creating new businesses, new jobs, and new cycles of hope – in red states and blue states; in rural, urban, and Tribal Nation communities too long left behind. In all, President Biden’s agenda has already created nearly 800,000 manufacturing jobs, and 880,000 more jobs in construction, building the roads, factories, and dreams of our future. More Americans are employed in these fields and clean energy today than ever were under Trump. President Biden’s agenda requires that any federally-financed infrastructure job must include wage and labor protections. And we’re making sure that these projects use American-made goods, by strengthening “Buy American” procurement rules to their toughest level in seven decades. That means every federally funded infrastructure project is being built with American-made steel, lumber, drywall, concrete, and other products, by American workers. And the Administration has taken historic steps to ensure that these workers are paid prevailing wages, with the free and fair choice to join a union; and to incentivize project labor agreements

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SOCIAL SECURITY, PENSIONS, & MEDICARE
The right to a secure and dignified retirement is one of the bedrock principles of American life. Before Social Security, almost half of American seniors lived in poverty. Even those who’d spent a lifetime working didn't always have enough to put food on the table or health care they could count on. Democrats changed that: in 1935, we passed Social Security; in 1965, we signed Medicare and Medicaid into law. These are more than government programs – they’re a promise that we’ve made as a country, that after a lifetime of hard work, people deserve to retire with dignity and security. They’ve made tens of millions of lives better

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Chapter One: Growing Our Economy from the Bottom Up & Middle Out
This election is a choice between two very different economic visions for America: Donald Trump, who sees the world from his country club at Mar-a-Lago; and Joe Biden, who sees it from kitchen tables in Scranton like the one he grew up around. His economic agenda is about Main Street, not Wall Street. It’s about ending the days of trickle-down economics and investing in America – in all Americans – and delivering for communities too long left behind. While Democrats keep fighting to lower costs for working families, Trump is rigging our economy for his Mar-a-Lago friends and billionaire donors, who like him, are only in it for themselves.

 

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2. LMAO they are trying to say Medicare for All is unpopular? Where did they conduct this poll, the Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce?

3. You're not convincing voters of shit, other than your own weakness and ineptitude. Step the fuck aside.

4. Once again, how is that any different from what Kamala Harris tried?

5. Who the fuck talks like this? Seriously, what actionable information are they even attempting to convey here? It sure as fuck looks like "talk a bigger talk about hating the elite, but don't actually do anything negative for the elite"

It's a real mystery why nobody trusts the leadership of the party.

Posted
24 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

2. LMAO they are trying to say Medicare for All is unpopular? Where did they conduct this poll, the Fairfax County Chamber of Commerce?

And student loan forgiveness lmao...less popular but still popular

I hate everything

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3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Are.  You.  Fucking.  Kidding.  Me?

They voted to pay the military, TSA, air traffic controllers, etc during the shutdown. They didn’t vote for the CR to reopen the government without extending the healthcare subsidies.

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23 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

They voted to pay the military, TSA, air traffic controllers, etc during the shutdown. They didn’t vote for the CR to reopen the government without extending the healthcare subsidies.

Misleading headline is misleading. FYI, there was a Democratic bill that would pay everyone during the shutdown, but the Republican bills would only pay certain people. 

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