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On 10/31/2023 at 2:59 PM, atomheartbevo said:

Better hope so, there are a shitload of Republicans in Texas who want to arrest any woman, regardless of age, who leaves the state for an abortion.

i'll repeat my offer... if any surly member or their loved one needs help exercising female body autonomy, i've got a guest suite available on the burgeoning underground railroad here in CO, just DM me.

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just watching John Oliver from Sunday...focus on abortion issue vis-a-vis tonight's elections...

Texas features big time, horror story after horror story. so incredibly fucked up. 😪 

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But I was told this was a matter of state's rights, and the federal government had no business getting involved.  Or something like that.

It does get confusing at times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

But I was told this was a matter of state's rights, and the federal government had no business getting involved.  Or something like that.

It does get confusing at times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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14 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

But I was told this was a matter of state's rights, and the federal government had no business getting involved.  Or something like that.

It does get confusing at times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you realize that the GQP actually has zero principles other than "power and control," it all checks out.

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16 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

But I was told this was a matter of state's rights, and the federal government had no business getting involved.  Or something like that.

 

Not when the states don't do it right, duh. 

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17 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

But I was told this was a matter of state's rights, and the federal government had no business getting involved.  Or something like that.

It does get confusing at times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh well that was different. 

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When Kimberly Manzano’s doctor first noticed some irregularities with her pregnancy, she turned to God, praying constantly for good news. When the diagnosis worsened, she and her husband sought comfort in the Bible’s Book of Hebrews — the book of hope.

And when her doctor finally determined her baby could not survive outside the womb, she asked her pastor for advice.

“He said, ‘if you believe your doctor to be a godly man, take what the doctor says as clarity from God in your decision,’” she recalls.


https://www.texastribune.org/2023/11/14/texas-abortion-laws-lawsuit/

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5 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

The goal of the unscientific anti-abortion laws is not to save "a life" ... but to inflict upon women as much pain, anguish, humiliation, and anti-medical barbarism as possible. All backed by their Bible BS. 

Always has been with Christians and other theocrats. For thousands of years. Always will be. 

Broad brush much?

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This is the first time since before Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973 that an adult woman has asked a court to intervene to allow her to terminate a pregnancy, and the first lawsuit of its kind since Texas banned almost all abortions in 2022.

Kate Cox, a 31-year-old Dallas woman, learned last week that her fetus was diagnosed with full trisomy 18, a chromosomal anomaly that is almost always fatal before or soon after birth. The fetus is developing with an umbilical hernia, a twisted spine, a club foot and an irregular skull and heart, according to the lawsuit.



https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/05/texas-abortion-lawsuit/

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2 minutes ago, elfenix said:

This is the first time since before Roe v. Wade was decided in 1973 that an adult woman has asked a court to intervene to allow her to terminate a pregnancy, and the first lawsuit of its kind since Texas banned almost all abortions in 2022.

Kate Cox, a 31-year-old Dallas woman, learned last week that her fetus was diagnosed with full trisomy 18, a chromosomal anomaly that is almost always fatal before or soon after birth. The fetus is developing with an umbilical hernia, a twisted spine, a club foot and an irregular skull and heart, according to the lawsuit.



https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/05/texas-abortion-lawsuit/

So we're renaming it "Dan Patrick Syndrome" for reasons, right?  I don't give a fuck about coming across as insensitive anymore.  They're hunting frightened women.  Because it makes them feel strong.  

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@Brisketexan Judge Maya doing stuff again.

https://www.kxan.com/news/texas-politics/hearing-thursday-for-woman-suing-texas-over-abortion-ban/

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A Travis County judge granted an emergency request to allow a Texas woman to seek an abortion. Judge Maya Guerra Gamble announced the decision after a hearing Thursday morning. 

Kate Cox, a 31-year-old mother of two young children in Dallas, filed suit against the state last week. Cox is pregnant, and said a screening revealed her baby has full trisomy 18 — a fatal chromosomal condition causing deformities and growth delays in fetal development. Babies with trisomy 18 are often stillborn or survive for only minutes or days, and their mothers are often at risk of losing the chance to have another child, the petition states.

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Lawyers representing the State of Texas argued against granting a temporary restraining order, or TRO. Attorney Johnathan Stone said allowing Cox to get an abortion amounted to a permanent decision. “The abortion once performed is permanent. It can’t be undone,” Stone told the judge.

Texas Right to Life accuses the suit of “seek[ing] to conflate two separate issues: the risk to the mother and the child’s disability.” They argue a baby with trisomy 18 should be born and live until natural death.

 

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Paxton couldn’t wait and he clearly wants an all out war of sorts over abortion, brilliant to do this going into an election year.  If Soros was paying somebody to do this to get Democrats and women out to vote, it’ would be money well spent.

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12 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Paxton couldn’t wait and he clearly wants an all out war of sorts over abortion, brilliant to do this going into an election year.  If Soros was paying somebody to do this to get Democrats and women out to vote, it’ would be money well spent.

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Any woman who votes Republican in Texas is as fucking stupid as a black member of the Klan.

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37 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Paxton couldn’t wait and he clearly wants an all out war of sorts over abortion, brilliant to do this going into an election year.  If Soros was paying somebody to do this to get Democrats and women out to vote, it’ would be money well spent.

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If we were a decent people there’d be an angry mob dragging Paxton out of his house right now and giving him the ol’ Gaddafi.

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1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

If we were a decent people there’d be an angry mob dragging Paxton out of his house right now and giving him the ol’ Gaddafi.

that would be a far better fate than he deserves.

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2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Per paxton, the judge and doctor don’t have the medical expertise to make a decision here, but he does ?

Yep, because he's Kenny Wayne Paxton.  And there's rumors that he's pumping a lot of resources into monitoring hospitals/etc. to prevent this, and I'm not going to be surprised if he has somebody following her around to make sure she doesn't get an abortion.  He's doubling-down on this.  He'll probably go after the judge as well.

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18 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Yep, because he's Kenny Wayne Paxton.  And there's rumors that he's pumping a lot of resources into monitoring hospitals/etc. to prevent this, and I'm not going to be surprised if he has somebody following her around to make sure she doesn't get an abortion.  He's doubling-down on this.  He'll probably go after the judge as well.


state police monitoring citizens !!

 

Only a matter of time before all women must send menstruation data to the state  

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1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

If we were a decent people there’d be an angry mob dragging Paxton out of his house right now and giving him the ol’ Gaddafi.

You know, I can hardly believe that this just wouldn’t cause outrage amongst all good people, but no one will notice and we inch a step closer to theocracy or something just as bad. I guess it’s true that the revolution won’t be televised. 
 

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12 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

You know, I can hardly believe that this just wouldn’t cause outrage amongst all good people, but no one will notice and we inch a step closer to theocracy or something just as bad. I guess it’s true that the revolution won’t be televised. 
 


ill guess 55% of this board fully supports paxton

 

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

From the story.  No, we don't all seem to recognize that:

“Ms. Cox’s story is heartbreaking because all of us recognize that she and her child are equally valuable and loved by God,” Texas Right to Life Communications Director Kimberly Schwartz said. “If you feel compassion for this situation like us, it is because we all know that there are two lives at stake and that both are supremely important. The answer is not to end the child’s life because of the baby’s disability, but state law does anticipate the serious risk to the mother.”

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Paxton couldn’t wait and he clearly wants an all out war of sorts over abortion, brilliant to do this going into an election year.  If Soros was paying somebody to do this to get Democrats and women out to vote, it’ would be money well spent.

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Isn't this essentially an ex parte communication to parties who may be bound by the TRO, and an attempt to threaten consequences for conduct that is consistent with the ruling? And the idea that this society would tolerate any kind of state surveillance on a non-criminal citizen with intent to prevent (not investigate but PREVENT) a potential "crime".... well this is way fucking beyond abuse of power --  bravo Kenny. There are no fucking limits for this evil shit. We are way beyond what even Ireland was doing a while back before they came to their fucking senses there. But we continue to be frogs in the boiling pot where it's already on fire, just taking it up the ass in this state. I hope one of the parties sues his ass and makes this a case everyone hears about.

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20 minutes ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

 And the idea that this society would tolerate any kind of state surveillance on a non-criminal citizen with intent to prevent (not investigate but PREVENT) a potential "crime".... well this is way fucking beyond abuse of power --  bravo Kenny. There are no fucking limits for this evil shit. 

Members of our legislature, and various West Texas towns, would love to arrest people who leave the state to have an abortion or even stop them from leaving the state, regardless of the legality elsewhere.  They were openly talking about how they could bust people who leave the state for an abortion.

There's no way to do that without getting access to medical records, receipts for those who buy pregnancy tests (lock up the tests, make women swipe their ID to buy a test, then the state could "follow up" with those women?) as well as combining all of that into a database that anybody leaving the state is checked against.

The Republicans have, for years, claimed the Dems were going to go all Orwell/Minority Report on everybody, yet here we are, and its the Republicans openly championing this big government involved in everybody's lives approach.

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1 hour ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

an ex parte communication to parties

ex parte is a communication to the court without the other parties being copied. 

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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:


state police monitoring citizens !!

Only a matter of time before all women must send menstruation data to the state  

This would be a good opportunity to make a commercial about the impending trampling of privacy rights - sort of a real-life version of that commercial where the mom and daughter get stopped trying to travel out of state.  Just load up a close friend's car with cameras, drive over to her house in the middle of the night , set up a dummy laying down in the passenger seat and drive toward the New Mexico border, and document the behavior of DPS / cops in Texas border towns / whatever new brown shirt organization Abbott and Paxton set up to police this shit.  Perhaps people would realize it isn't just breathless overreaction after all ...  

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7 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

From the story.  No, we don't all seem to recognize that:

“Ms. Cox’s story is heartbreaking because all of us recognize that she and her child are equally valuable and loved by God,” Texas Right to Life Communications Director Kimberly Schwartz said. “If you feel compassion for this situation like us, it is because we all know that there are two lives at stake and that both are supremely important. The answer is not to end the child’s life because of the baby’s disability, but state law does anticipate the serious risk to the mother.”

What exactly do these Jesus freaks think happens to the soul of an aborted fetus? What’s the scriptural basis for what they believe? Or in the case of the Catholics, what is the church’s doctrine? Shouldn’t they believe the poor, innocent little soul is going straight to Heaven? Do the Catholics have some alternate plane for the souls of those who never reached the age of reason?

Ten bucks says Kimberly Schwartz enthusiastically supports capital punishment.

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It's a weird loophole.  If you're not baptized, you don't go to heaven.  My wife's family was in a big rush to get our girls baptized because if something should happen to them in the early weeks/months of life, they wouldn't go to heaven for some reason.  So I once inquired, not with them  but some other learned Catholics, if a baby should be stillborn, or died in utero in late term, or get malaria at 6 weeks old or whatever.  When there's clearly life that can survive?  And of course there's no clear answer, no scripture, just a "Well, God grants them a special pass to heaven in that case."  But apparently being alive outside the belly for a few months, but not baptized, and then the baby dies, they're fucked and don't go to heaven.  But your parish mileage may vary.  

Catholics are actually the last annoying political element in all of this abortion debate.  Their thinking is hypocritical but at least they've held on to it for a long while.  The Evangelical and Baptist movements in Texas' newest and loudest jam is, "Fetal heartbeat is detectable after just a few weeks!  So that means life and you cannot abort!  You shouldn't even have contraception!"  Because yeah, I totally forgot that bible verse that talks about sonograms detecting fetal heartbeats in week 3 in Jerusalem.  That thing Luke and Matthew couldn't stop talking about while fishing.

If all life counts no matter what, from the moment of conception.  Fine, we may disagree on nuance but if you're supportive of it all without exception...I get your conviction.  But if a Catholic teaching hospital's experts all agree, "Yeah, this baby ain't gonna make it and the mom's probably dead too..."  Maybe sit the next couple of plays out, eh?  

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11 hours ago, ChuckNorrisActionJeans said:

I feel like there should be much more civil unrest. Instead, people and corporations (sorry, redundant) have just become completely apathetic. We even get the college nat'l championship game in Houston despite all the fuckery here. Yay?

Texans don't give a shit.  As long as they can complain about Biden's gas prices and Mexicans, they don't give a fuck about giving up rights.

 

 

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...and jack off with their murder dildos, don't forget that. our resident fetishist literally just bragged about that in another thread 😐

 

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15 hours ago, Gap03 said:

This would be a good opportunity to make a commercial about the impending trampling of privacy rights - sort of a real-life version of that commercial where the mom and daughter get stopped trying to travel out of state.  Just load up a close friend's car with cameras, drive over to her house in the middle of the night , set up a dummy laying down in the passenger seat and drive toward the New Mexico border, and document the behavior of DPS / cops in Texas border towns / whatever new brown shirt organization Abbott and Paxton set up to police this shit.  Perhaps people would realize it isn't just breathless overreaction after all ...  

 

there is no right to privacy when a fetus is involved !

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On 12/7/2023 at 9:52 PM, Aqua Buddha said:

From the story.  No, we don't all seem to recognize that:

“Ms. Cox’s story is heartbreaking because all of us recognize that she and her child are equally valuable and loved by God,” Texas Right to Life Communications Director Kimberly Schwartz said. “If you feel compassion for this situation like us, it is because we all know that there are two lives at stake and that both are supremely important. The answer is not to end the child’s life because of the baby’s disability, but state law does anticipate the serious risk to the mother.”

“And once that child is born into a terrible life where it will be a physical, financial, and emotional burden, Mrs Cox can get fucked if she expects any help from the state” -Kimberly Schwartz…Probably

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On 12/8/2023 at 6:13 AM, YGIFS said:

It's a weird loophole.  If you're not baptized, you don't go to heaven.  My wife's family was in a big rush to get our girls baptized because if something should happen to them in the early weeks/months of life, they wouldn't go to heaven for some reason.  So I once inquired, not with them  but some other learned Catholics, if a baby should be stillborn, or died in utero in late term, or get malaria at 6 weeks old or whatever.  When there's clearly life that can survive?  And of course there's no clear answer, no scripture, just a "Well, God grants them a special pass to heaven in that case."  But apparently being alive outside the belly for a few months, but not baptized, and then the baby dies, they're fucked and don't go to heaven.  But your parish mileage may vary.  

Catholics are actually the last annoying political element in all of this abortion debate.  Their thinking is hypocritical but at least they've held on to it for a long while.  The Evangelical and Baptist movements in Texas' newest and loudest jam is, "Fetal heartbeat is detectable after just a few weeks!  So that means life and you cannot abort!  You shouldn't even have contraception!"  Because yeah, I totally forgot that bible verse that talks about sonograms detecting fetal heartbeats in week 3 in Jerusalem.  That thing Luke and Matthew couldn't stop talking about while fishing.

If all life counts no matter what, from the moment of conception.  Fine, we may disagree on nuance but if you're supportive of it all without exception...I get your conviction.  But if a Catholic teaching hospital's experts all agree, "Yeah, this baby ain't gonna make it and the mom's probably dead too..."  Maybe sit the next couple of plays out, eh?  

 



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