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3 hours ago, Napoleon said:

 

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Why would you think that a 7th round pick is automatically going to be the 2nd string QB?

He’s 2nd string. Tua injured and Zack Wilson will suck or be injured and he’s gonna play next year. 

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2 minutes ago, Intercourse With Gray said:

i'm fucking tired of you guys shitting on Quinn so much. Garrett Gilbert didnt get this much disrespect. Quinn brought us to the playoffs 2 years in a row. Gilbert threw 4 INTs in the NCG and said he was the savior after Colt. No offense, we had CASE MCCOY as QB1 recently. Quinn could Tom Brady/Brock Purdy this draft and fuck the haters.

This thread has given me the aids 

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14 minutes ago, Intercourse With Gray said:

Quinn could Tom Brady/Brock Purdy this draft and fuck the haters.

I would love for him to do that if it is not against the Saints. I'll support QE forever. He brought us to two semifinal games. He got us in a position to win both of them, but unfortunately, things didn't go our way. I believe there is a mental block going on with him since that injury and it plagued him throughout the year. I hope he blossoms in the NFL.

 

It is crazy how much love Sam got; he never brought us anywhere close to what Quinn did.

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9 minutes ago, Intercourse With Gray said:

It’s depressing how many UT fans believe Ewers is trash. Hes quite good compared to QBs we had the past 10 years

Idk man. The league jet spoke in a big way. From perfect recruit to barely drafted. It’s cool he played QB at Texas but he was not a strength of the team. Ehlinger was drafted higher for reference. 

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1 hour ago, 6th Street said:

Weak arm, poor deep ball accuracy, bad pocket presence, and turnover prone. Can't believe we wasted a championship level defense on this bum.

No need for use of words like “bum”.

You can point out deficiencies without the dig at the end. 

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5 hours ago, Intercourse With Gray said:

Its depressing how many UT fans believe Ewers is trash. Hes quite good compared to QBs we had the past 10 years

He's not better than Ehlinger. 

But other than that, the previous 10 years aren't the bar anymore. The day that NIL was instituted, the portal opened, and an army of Texas money came in to give Sark the ability to build the best defense since national championship game level teams the entire program changed. 

Quinn was solid in 2022 with what he had. He was solid in 2023 with what he had. He was below average in 2024 with the greatness he had around him. 

And twice he was in the semi finals with the ball, and potentially the game, in his hands inside the 15 yd line. And twice he failed to deliver. 

Once the NIL and portal hit that no longer became good enough at the QB position for this program. The bar is raised to the heights of the best programs in the country. Being a solid college QB won't get it done. This program has greatness all throughout the roster now. It needs it at QB. 

I do not know how Ewers will fare at the NFL level, but as has been pointed out for months now, he has a ton of holes in his game that doom QBs at that level. The NFL draft proved that out. Hopefully he does improve a ton and stick in the league for a while, but none of us should hold our breath for it. He's a 7th round flyer on a practice squad spot. Now it's time to look to a better and brighter future with sustained NIL fueled success and hope Arch can deliver where Ewers did not. 

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5 hours ago, txexlonghorn23 said:

 

 

It is crazy how much love Sam got; he never brought us anywhere close to what Quinn did.

You do realize there's 21 other starters, and dozens of backups, on the team other than QB, right? 

Plus there's different levels of coaching staff. 

Look at what Ehlinger had to work with, what coaches he had, and compare to what Ewers had. 

It's like saying someone is a great driver because he did better in a race with a Ferrari compared to another guy driving a minivan. 

Ehlinger had a team and coaches so full of "don't give a shit" they left his ass alone on the field for the playing of the "Eyes" in the cotton bowl. 

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Easier said than done to hang around in the nfl as a backup qb. It pays well and 10 new guys show up each year to replace the current 32 backups. Sure there is always a 3rd string guy but that’s for one of the new 10 as an extended try out. And a #3 guy needs to be cheap so turnover is high.

Not that it’s within a backup QB’s control but a long term backup needs 1 of 2 paths: get real playing time early to demonstrate you won’t shit the bed when the starter goes down. Second, become indispensable to the star QB who will tell the HC and OC that he needs you for the weekly prep.

QE wasn’t drafted to replace Tua so he has to make a place for himself to have a chance to stick.

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1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Easier said than done to hang around in the nfl as a backup qb. It pays well and 10 new guys show up each year to replace the current 32 backups. Sure there is always a 3rd string guy but that’s for one of the new 10 as an extended try out. And a #3 guy needs to be cheap so turnover is high.

Not that it’s within a backup QB’s control but a long term backup needs 1 of 2 paths: get real playing time early to demonstrate you won’t shit the bed when the starter goes down. Second, become indispensable to the star QB who will tell the HC and OC that he needs you for the weekly prep.

QE wasn’t drafted to replace Tua so he has to make a place for himself to have a chance to stick.

He was also drafted in a spot that makes him easy to cut if he doesn’t perform

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6 hours ago, txexlonghorn23 said:

I would love for him to do that if it is not against the Saints. I'll support QE forever. He brought us to two semifinal games. He got us in a position to win both of them, but unfortunately, things didn't go our way. I believe there is a mental block going on with him since that injury and it plagued him throughout the year. I hope he blossoms in the NFL.

 

It is crazy how much love Sam got; he never brought us anywhere close to what Quinn did.

Did you watch Texas football while Bam Bam Sam was here? Sam Ehlinger deserves to have a special place in Texas football lore because that guy would have walked out on the 50 yard line and committed seppuku if that is what it took for Texas to win. So many times on a critical drive when the play breaks down, Quinn just crumpled and did nothing to extend the play before he self sacked. I all I could think during those moments is that Sam would have absolutely dived straight into the defense for at least another 3-4 yards and instead of taking a 8 yard sack. 

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The guy has missed significant time with injury 4 seasons in a row dating back to HS.

Hard to invest premium capital in a player who couldn’t survive 12 games at the college and HS level and expect him to hold up against bigger and faster defenses as a pocket QB in the NFL.

The physical traits and stuff you see on film has been beaten to death in here, but the injury history probably served as the tiebreaker in a lot of draft rooms when you are comparing him to some of the QB’s who went after Shedeur.

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7 hours ago, txexlonghorn23 said:

I would love for him to do that if it is not against the Saints. I'll support QE forever. He brought us to two semifinal games. He got us in a position to win both of them, but unfortunately, things didn't go our way. I believe there is a mental block going on with him since that injury and it plagued him throughout the year. I hope he blossoms in the NFL.

 

It is crazy how much love Sam got; he never brought us anywhere close to what Quinn did.

Except that one time where he was 1 game away in 2018 (big xii CCG rematch), played injured and then destroyed Georgia in a NY6 appearance for a top 10 finish. 

Quinn didn't lead shit to the playoffs, and he choked when it mattered. Everyone wants to talk about 4th and 13 but they want to forget about why it was even necessary. 

https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=43251140

This is why he fell so hard. It's because he's held to a different revisionist standard by fans with burnt orange glasses on. 

He didn't suck, but he proportionally gets more credit than he does blame for things that went poorly. That's why I've always maintained his games like Alabama and Michigan were incredible, he played to his potential and was a huge reason for winning and winning decisively. Then you have Oklahoma State, Georgia x2, Washington, Ohio State on film and man, that's some bad fucking film. 

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Not to mention games like Kentucky or multiple other games where he wasn’t able to elevate his team when Sark isn't able to scheme him a bunch of gotchas in the second half of games.

He’s not a playmaker, he’s not much of an improviser, and he didn’t take care of the football that well. Injury prone and overrated arm on top of that. Lacks charisma. I could go on, but who cares. He was a better option than Casey Thompson, Hudson Card, and Maalik Murphy. 
He looked really good compared to the sub-mediocrities we had at the position before him (besides Sam). Thankful for his contributions, hopefully he continues to represent Longhorn Nation well. 

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This guy would have been a top 10 pick in the draft. We heard a lot early in the 2024 season about his improved footwork, but to my amateur eyes it looks like he regressed there from early 2022. And obviously by last year he wasn't slinging it around anywhere close to that. 

 

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8 hours ago, Intercourse With Gray said:

i'm fucking tired of you guys shitting on Quinn so much. Garrett Gilbert didnt get this much disrespect. Quinn brought us to the playoffs 2 years in a row. Gilbert threw 4 INTs in the NCG and said he was the savior after Colt. No offense, we had CASE MCCOY as QB1 recently. Quinn could Tom Brady/Brock Purdy this draft and fuck the haters.

Do you even QB controversy, bro?  We went to the playoffs twice, we didn’t win it all, part of that was the starting QB’s play, and we had football Jesus as his backup.  It will forever be a “what if…” remembrance for a lot of people.  Of course, there are no guarantees we would have won if all with Arch as QB last year, but the number of longhorns just drafted (all higher than Ewers) suggests maybe it was the team carrying Ewers vs the other way around.

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10 hours ago, Intercourse With Gray said:

i'm fucking tired of you guys shitting on Quinn so much. Garrett Gilbert didnt get this much disrespect. Quinn brought us to the playoffs 2 years in a row. Gilbert threw 4 INTs in the NCG and said he was the savior after Colt. No offense, we had CASE MCCOY as QB1 recently. Quinn could Tom Brady/Brock Purdy this draft and fuck the haters.

GG had more hype going into his freshman year than Quinn. That's just a fact. He was a 2x state champ, national gatorade player of the year, number one QB in Texas, yeah he didn't get the perfect score but he was still a huge prospect. We booed his ass off the field against BYU in the first quarter and we never saw him again. He doesn't even want to associate with the university. Say what you will about Quinn but we never treated him as poorly as we did Gilbert.

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I can't think of a case where we've seen a highly rated guy perform below expectation level and suddenly put it together in the NFL.  Those highly rated guys are almost always drafted by someone thinking they can find the missing link.  Ewers is a much better prospect than a lot of guys taken before him but there's always been something missing.  The mental side of it, that "want to", is very hard to predict or evaluate.  You have to have shown the production and he's a little light in that department.  He's shown he can do just about anything but there's a lack of consistency, there's a lack of ability to snap out of poor play in-game.

You have to wonder what the injury reports show.  I'm wondering if we have a situation similar to Rod Wright here.  

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12 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

Hook 'em, Quinn. You were the best we've had since Colt. Thanks for helping us return to prominence. You're a really great person and are a fantastic representative of our university. I'll always be grateful that you came to Texas after Turtle Tom was ousted and I'm excited to see what you do on the next level.

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Quinn is the guy that got us back to being a top 5 program so I appreciate him and will root for him in the NFL, but on no planet was he a better college QB than Sam Ehlinger. IMO we win the NC the last two years if we had Sam.

Quinn vs Chris Simms is a better debate and I probably go with Quinn there given the Bama games.

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7 minutes ago, whereiend said:

Quinn is the guy that got us back to being a top 5 program so I appreciate him and will root for him in the NFL, but on no planet was he a better college QB than Sam Ehlinger. IMO we win the NC the last two years if we had Sam.

Quinn vs Chris Simms is a better debate and I probably go with Quinn there given the Bama games.

Quinn is and was better than Sam on this and every planet. And I like Sam. 

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3 hours ago, immamac said:

Except that one time where he was 1 game away in 2018 (big xii CCG rematch), played injured and then destroyed Georgia in a NY6 appearance for a top 10 finish. 

Quinn didn't lead shit to the playoffs, and he choked when it mattered. Everyone wants to talk about 4th and 13 but they want to forget about why it was even necessary. 

https://www.espn.com/video/clip?id=43251140

This is why he fell so hard. It's because he's held to a different revisionist standard by fans with burnt orange glasses on. 

He didn't suck, but he proportionally gets more credit than he does blame for things that went poorly. That's why I've always maintained his games like Alabama and Michigan were incredible, he played to his potential and was a huge reason for winning and winning decisively. Then you have Oklahoma State, Georgia x2, Washington, Ohio State on film and man, that's some bad fucking film. 

I agree with this entirely and will add something two aspects. 

At the most pivotal moments of his career, he failed spectacularly. In the business world if you do very good work 90% of the time, maybe even great work, and at the pivotal moments in your business fall flat on your face, the other 90% is forgotten. You failed the big moments, thats not great for your career nor image particularly if you're the primary contact leading the enterprise. You'll be remembered for your failures not the rest of the 90%. In fairness, if there were signs that you would fail, multiple, and the CEO didn't put someone else in charge, a big part of it is on him too.

As for those who think fans here want him to fail in the NFL, you aren't reading the room. We are pointing out that the most critical assessors of Quinn's abilities side with OUR view rather that the raw raw Orange Glasses opinion that so many here have and continue to illustrate.

I won't speak for them all, but for myself, I WANTED to be wrong all along. I WANTED Quinn to lead us to a national championship, hell I bought tickets and had a room for the game. I'm in the minority here that actually attended the SEC championship game. I hoped Quinn and Sark would prove me wrong, but I was pretty damn sure my hope was misplaced and it turns out I was right.

I am pretty confident no Longhorn fan here actually wanted Quinn to fail. I don't know many fans that would rather be right and not see their team win a championship than be wrong and see it happen. 

I don't think any fans here wanted Quinn to drop in the draft as it ultimately is a net negative for Texas Athletics. We weren't cheering that he was drafted late.

What we were cheering was the validation of a very long period of being shit on in this very forum for expressing concerns and issues regarding Quinns capabilities. Of being told over and over that Quinn was great, had no flaws and none of the failure fell to Quinn, rather time and time again nearly or completely by some that 100% of the blame for those failures were placed on his teammates. Never holding Quinn accountable. 

And now, because we are grateful for that validation we are "hoping Quinn fails in the NFL, are ungrateful for what Quinn provided, told how dumb this thread is and that it should die", and that in essence we hate Quinn and any success he brought to Texas Athletics.

I don't, I dont think most posters here feel that way.

What we (or at least I) wanted was the validation of the concerns and issues we saw all season post Michigan. Over and over and over again. For which we were called haters, stupid and bad fans. 

That's an extremely reasonable and rational desire. 

For the record, I hope Quinn does amazing in the NFL, I would have like to have been wrong and seen him go higher in the draft, would have liked to have been wrong and have another NC trophy.

But I unfortunately I doubt he will, didn't and we don't.

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13 hours ago, Derka said:

i just spent the last 15 minutes going over posts from november of 2023 where the people on this board *crushed me*, and not in an, “i disagree with your takes” type of way, but in a, “i fucking hate you, nobody loves you, you’re a piece of shit” type of way, all because i had the gall to not blindly anoint QE and to have a differing opinion. i attacked no one; i was not insulting; and yet not only was i relentlessly attacked with personal shit talk, but i was then blamed for “derka’ing the thread”, when in fact i was the only civil person among the dozen+ people posting in the conversation. oh and in the end, i was right after all. and now you suddenly have a problem with me bringing that back up and pointing it out? too fucking bad. walk a mile in my shoes and then get back at me.

oh yeah, the cherry on top? not only was i posting non-combative, non-insulting, earnest football takes and getting relentless personal shit talk in return, someone even posted, “no one here is attacking you, people are just disagreeing with you and you can’t handle it.” i then quoted 10 different ad hominem personal attacks aimed at me from that day alone, and absolutely nobody even acknowledged it. it’s maga levels of self delusion and hatred that i’ve had to put up with. and you want me to just sit back and take it? no thank you. 

this routine where you guys get to be humongous pieces of shit to me for my (again, CORRECT but unpopular) football takes, but then you’ve suddenly got a huge problem with when i decide to call those people out for it? yeah, fuck all that. don’t start none won’t be none. you don’t get the moral high ground when you’re the asshole.

I think the saddest thing about all of this is that you care enough to dedicate this much time and energy to defending yourself and trying to prove a point to a bunch of strangers....on the internet...on a football message board. I mean talk about being out of touch with the reality of what is important in this world. That is what I usually take away from your posts, not whether you are right or wrong.

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People were mad at the kid for getting out of high school early to get 1.4 million dollars and the same people are saying he should’ve transferred to make more money.

I for one am glad he finished his career at Texas. He’s a Texas Exe whether we like it or not. In all honestly why wouldn’t you want someone to be a Texas Exe?

For this technical people, who knows if he really got his degree but he finished his career here so close enough.

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Just now, TexasExe14 said:

People were mad at the kid for getting out of high school early to get 1.4 million dollars and the same people are saying he should’ve transferred to make more money.

I for one am glad he finished his career at Texas. He’s a Texas Exe whether we like it or not. In all honestly why wouldn’t you want someone to be a Texas Exe?

For this technical people, who knows if he really got his degree but he finished his career here so close enough.

To be fair, there are a lot of people I wouldnt want to be a Texas Ex. Quinn earned his.

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6 minutes ago, TexasExe14 said:

People were mad at the kid for getting out of high school early to get 1.4 million dollars and the same people are saying he should’ve transferred to make more money.

I for one am glad he finished his career at Texas. He’s a Texas Exe whether we like it or not. In all honestly why wouldn’t you want someone to be a Texas Exe?

For this technical people, who knows if he really got his degree but he finished his career here so close enough.

Unrelated question, but why do you spell it "Exe"?

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26 minutes ago, Gucci_Suit said:

Quinn is and was better than Sam on this and every planet. And I like Sam. 

Quinn played with more drafted linemen than all Texas QBs combined since what 2008?

He never played at Texas without a draftable WR, TE or RB.

He never played without a top 10 defense.

His only game that we won in which the opponent scored 30+ was ASU.  They got that in OT to get to 31.  Beuchele, Card, Thompson, Sam all lost games scoring more than 31 points.  I don’t think Ewers ever did.

Theres no valid comparison between Ewers and any QB since Colt.

Ewers had probably a top 5-ish of all time opportunity.  Same system.  Same staff instructing.  Unmatched offensive talent in Texas history.  There’s not really a close 2nd.

He’s a more gifted Ken Dorsey without the title.

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16 minutes ago, TexasExe14 said:

People were mad at the kid for getting out of high school early to get 1.4 million dollars and the same people are saying he should’ve transferred to make more money.

I for one am glad he finished his career at Texas. He’s a Texas Exe whether we like it or not. In all honestly why wouldn’t you want someone to be a Texas Exe?

For this technical people, who knows if he really got his degree but he finished his career here so close enough.

I don't recall a single instance at any point of anyone on this thread or anywhere ever expressing any issue with Quinn coming to Texas or going to school here. Also, don't remember anyone here bitching or posting negative stuff about him getting out of school early for millions.

Please, enlighten me to all these posts here as I'm extremely curious.

Otherwise, this a fancy platitude like the many others expressing gratitude for his time at Texas while refusing to acknowledge the truth about his performance. 

There will be more in the near future, I'm sure.

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29 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I agree with this entirely and will add something two aspects. 

At the most pivotal moments of his career, he failed spectacularly. In the business world if you do very good work 90% of the time, maybe even great work, and at the pivotal moments in your business fall flat on your face, the other 90% is forgotten. You failed the big moments, thats not great for your career nor image particularly if you're the primary contact leading the enterprise. You'll be remembered for your failures not the rest of the 90%. In fairness, if there were signs that you would fail, multiple, and the CEO didn't put someone else in charge, a big part of it is on him too.

As for those who think fans here want him to fail in the NFL, you aren't reading the room. We are pointing out that the most critical assessors of Quinn's abilities side with OUR view rather that the raw raw Orange Glasses opinion that so many here have and continue to illustrate.

I won't speak for them all, but for myself, I WANTED to be wrong all along. I WANTED Quinn to lead us to a national championship, hell I bought tickets and had a room for the game. I'm in the minority here that actually attended the SEC championship game. I hoped Quinn and Sark would prove me wrong, but I was pretty damn sure my hope was misplaced and it turns out I was right.

I am pretty confident no Longhorn fan here actually wanted Quinn to fail. I don't know many fans that would rather be right and not see their team win a championship than be wrong and see it happen. 

I don't think any fans here wanted Quinn to drop in the draft as it ultimately is a net negative for Texas Athletics. We weren't cheering that he was drafted late.

What we were cheering was the validation of a very long period of being shit on in this very forum for expressing concerns and issues regarding Quinns capabilities. Of being told over and over that Quinn was great, had no flaws and none of the failure fell to Quinn, rather time and time again nearly or completely by some that 100% of the blame for those failures were placed on his teammates. Never holding Quinn accountable. 

And now, because we are grateful for that validation we are "hoping Quinn fails in the NFL, are ungrateful for what Quinn provided, told how dumb this thread is and that it should die", and that in essence we hate Quinn and any success he brought to Texas Athletics.

I don't, I dont think most posters here feel that way.

What we (or at least I) wanted was the validation of the concerns and issues we saw all season post Michigan. Over and over and over again. For which we were called haters, stupid and bad fans. 

That's an extremely reasonable and rational desire. 

For the record, I hope Quinn does amazing in the NFL, I would have like to have been wrong and seen him go higher in the draft, would have liked to have been wrong and have another NC trophy.

But I unfortunately I doubt he will, didn't and we don't.

Are you the same Burnt Eyes from the CFN forums back in the day?? (2000-2004 or so). Those were good times.

Quinn is an interesting character in Longhorn football history. The only guy that really compare for me is Chris Simms. He has some homer fanboys that I assume are Southlake people, or maybe they just bought too much into the recruiting hype. These are the types that even today claim he has "generational arm talent" and that sort of thing.

Then he also some very overzealous haters who act like he is Case McCoy out there. I think Arch is a big factor here as many have wanted to watch him play instead.

There is respect for Quinn being the guy that led us back in to the top 5 but also criticism for often being the weak link of the top 5 teams.

There are some moments of true brilliance (e.g. Bama games) but also some absolute disasters like Oklahoma State and Georgia Then there is the injury component that makes him unreliable but also left a faint hope that maybe he could put it together when finally healthy.

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3 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Quinn played with more drafted linemen than all Texas QBs combined since what 2008?

He never played at Texas without a draftable WR, TE or RB.

He never played without a top 10 defense.

His only game that we won in which the opponent scored 30+ was ASU.  They got that in OT to get to 31.  Beuchele, Card, Thompson, Sam all lost games scoring more than 31 points.  I don’t think Ewers ever did.

Theres no valid comparison between Ewers and any QB since Colt.

Ewers had probably a top 5-ish of all time opportunity.  Same system.  Same staff instructing.  Unmatched offensive talent in Texas history.  There’s not really a close 2nd.

He’s a more gifted Ken Dorsey without the title.

Quinn 

Draft Pick # 231 

7th round

Sam

Draft pick # 213

6th Round 

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31 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I agree with this entirely and will add something two aspects. 

At the most pivotal moments of his career, he failed spectacularly. In the business world if you do very good work 90% of the time, maybe even great work, and at the pivotal moments in your business fall flat on your face, the other 90% is forgotten. You failed the big moments, thats not great for your career nor image particularly if you're the primary contact leading the enterprise. You'll be remembered for your failures not the rest of the 90%. In fairness, if there were signs that you would fail, multiple, and the CEO didn't put someone else in charge, a big part of it is on him too.

As for those who think fans here want him to fail in the NFL, you aren't reading the room. We are pointing out that the most critical assessors of Quinn's abilities side with OUR view rather that the raw raw Orange Glasses opinion that so many here have and continue to illustrate.

I won't speak for them all, but for myself, I WANTED to be wrong all along. I WANTED Quinn to lead us to a national championship, hell I bought tickets and had a room for the game. I'm in the minority here that actually attended the SEC championship game. I hoped Quinn and Sark would prove me wrong, but I was pretty damn sure my hope was misplaced and it turns out I was right.

I am pretty confident no Longhorn fan here actually wanted Quinn to fail. I don't know many fans that would rather be right and not see their team win a championship than be wrong and see it happen. 

I don't think any fans here wanted Quinn to drop in the draft as it ultimately is a net negative for Texas Athletics. We weren't cheering that he was drafted late.

What we were cheering was the validation of a very long period of being shit on in this very forum for expressing concerns and issues regarding Quinns capabilities. Of being told over and over that Quinn was great, had no flaws and none of the failure fell to Quinn, rather time and time again nearly or completely by some that 100% of the blame for those failures were placed on his teammates. Never holding Quinn accountable. 

And now, because we are grateful for that validation we are "hoping Quinn fails in the NFL, are ungrateful for what Quinn provided, told how dumb this thread is and that it should die", and that in essence we hate Quinn and any success he brought to Texas Athletics.

I don't, I dont think most posters here feel that way.

What we (or at least I) wanted was the validation of the concerns and issues we saw all season post Michigan. Over and over and over again. For which we were called haters, stupid and bad fans. 

That's an extremely reasonable and rational desire. 

For the record, I hope Quinn does amazing in the NFL, I would have like to have been wrong and seen him go higher in the draft, would have liked to have been wrong and have another NC trophy.

But I unfortunately I doubt he will, didn't and we don't.

This is an excellent post. No one was rooting for Quinn to fail, some of us were just put off by the constant sunshine pumping of Quinn’s greatness (border-lining on aggy levels of delusion) when we could all see what was happening game after game.

It’s one thing to want your guy to succeed, it’s another thing to blame everyone else for a player’s faults because you can’t separate your homerism from the truth.

It also pissed me off when @Thatguy kept saying how unhappy Quinn was on campus because of the fan base when him and the team were treated like kings. I was there when Garrett Gilbert got booed off the field against BYU, and it was ugly, and that’s the sentiment that the Quinn diehards were pushing about the Texas fans’ feelings towards Quinn. It wasn’t even close and any criticism meant we wanted Quinn to fail. Sometimes the truth hurts, even if you were destined for greatness. 

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I don't recall a single instance at any point of anyone on this thread or anywhere ever expressing any issue with Quinn coming to Texas or going to school here. Also, don't remember anyone here bitching or posting negative stuff about him getting out of school early for millions.
Please, enlighten me to all these posts here as I'm extremely curious.
Otherwise, this a fancy platitude like the many others expressing gratitude for his time at Texas while refusing to acknowledge the truth about his performance. 
There will be more in the near future, I'm sure.

I wasn’t saying anyone from here necessarily but a lot of people on x were saying it, he should’ve transferred. And they were probably the same ones giving him a hard time when he left high school to grab a bag.

Granted, his decision making wasn’t great from the beginning but I also would’ve left school early to get a million dollars. If he was gonna leave school early he should’ve picked a different university. I think at that time he would’ve sat behind stroud 2 years. Or maybe I’m misrememebring.
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Quinn gave us his best. I would criticize him for one thing only- if (and it is “if”, because none of us know) before the 2024 OU game, he overstated his health and readiness to play to Sark. That was the biggest decision to seal him as the 2024 QB, over Arch, but Sark was the one that made it. 
 
And I don’t really fault Sark. OU only had one loss, and you knew Venables was going to bring some crazy defensive looks, to take advantage of a freshman starter in a high pressure situation. At the time, we didn’t appreciate yet how awful OU’s offense was with Hawkins at QB (he was undefeated, 1-0, in conference). I understand why he would want to start the experienced guy in that situation. 
 
The next major decision point was the UGA game. We all know how disastrous that started. Klatt described it well- Ewers was rattled and Sark pulled him, to give him a chance to collect himself, but also knowing (as did Arch and Quinn) that if Arch played well, Quinn wasn’t going back in. Arch didn’t play well, and Quinn played a little better when he came back for the second half. 
 
At that point, Texas was 6-1, and needed to finish strong and make the CFP. No changes would be made unless there were injury or Ewers’ play falling off a cliff.
 
A lot of people seem to be upset with Quinn for Sark’s decisions. I don’t blame anyone; they’re games and all I ask of players and coaches is that they do their best. 
 
Why aren’t more people upset that Bond kept his starting job so long after he stopped making good plays and effort? That, arguably, cost us the SEC CG and Cotton Bowl. 

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What @immamac said about 4th and 13 is perfect.

Yes, he made the play. Give him credit for that, but let's not forget he was protected by an NFL front line, throwing to a First Round WR whose talent was welcomed to the league by a sea of elated fans, and that a Day 1/Day 2 QB probably should not have been in that situation to begin with.

Let's be even more brutally honest here: if he overthrew that pass or if Golden had been covered better, nobody would've been shocked to see him drop to RD7. All of that being said, I still think he has RD1 upside, which is how he was a 1.000 five star recruit. He probably would've been the starting QB at Ohio State if he had not transferred. His stats would have been better if he hadn't been injured by Alabama in 2022 or UTSA in 2024.

There's so much "woulda, coulda" on his resume and then the injury history that I understand teams being afraid of the risk.

The key difference for me is that I don't need to shit on him or root for him to fail. I don't need to express ingratitude either. That's loser shit. He deserves a ton of credit and a ton of respect from the fans as long as he truly hasn't embarrassed himself like Justin Tucker.

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1 minute ago, TexasExe14 said:


I wasn’t saying anyone from here necessarily but a lot of people on x were saying it, he should’ve transferred. And they were probably the same ones giving him a hard time when he left high school to grab a bag.

Granted, his decision making wasn’t great from the beginning but I also would’ve left school early to get a million dollars. If he was gonna leave school early he should’ve picked a different university. I think at that time he would’ve sat behind stroud 2 years. Or maybe I’m misrememebring.

Gonna be blunt, don't know or care what idiots on Twitter were posting about college football or recruiting in 2021 and I'm not really sure why it's relevant.

Also, doesn't answer the question about who took issue with Quinn attending the University of Texas. 

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19 minutes ago, WineGuy69 said:

I think the saddest thing about all of this is that you care enough to dedicate this much time and energy to defending yourself and trying to prove a point to a bunch of strangers....on the internet...on a football message board. I mean talk about being out of touch with the reality of what is important in this world. That is what I usually take away from your posts, not whether you are right or wrong.

Several people of the course of the last two years have tried to convince us LOUDLY and OFTEN that what we witnessed with our own eyes was not true.
 
Many talk about Derka being delusional but it seems like the majority of the posters in this thread were as delusional about Quinn as Quinn himself was. Starting from when he went against the advice of Ohio State to stay in fucking HS.

The draft was a reality check for a lot of you who have told us LOUDLY and OFTEN for the past two years we weren’t seeing what we saw with QE.

I’m not sure what the heck y’all were watching. But I have tits so I probably don’t know shit about football, 🏈 right? Shit it seems I know more than about a 100 of you do.

some of Y’all  just suck at admitting you were wrong as fuck about it. 

Those of us who were right can like QE and want the best for him and still think he isn’t what y’all kept trying to convince he was on the football field. Duh. Somehow we weren’t allowed to hold think those two things. One criticism of him and you were a hater. 

I like QE. I am glad he was drafted, I hope he succeeds in Miami. I wish him well I want him to succeed, I hope he does and has a long career. 

it’s ok to also say we saw what we saw the past two years. And the NFL agrees with us. 

But fucking A, we got 12 players drafted and some signed as UFA’s. This has been a hell of a two years and I thank QE for his service and hope he is a Dolphin for many years to come. 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

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