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1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

That all also means that he can’t not win this time even more urgently than last time.  The rhetoric and calls to violence will be even more forceful when he loses the vote. 

And he won't be in charge of shit to do shit about it.

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1 hour ago, The Dog said:

not sure but here is where I got it: https://www.threads.net/@gtconway3/post/C4x9ajhsedJ

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Sounds like these two clerks might get new clerkships elsewhere rather handily, for helping to slow things down and create a backlog. 

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

ComeonAileen will just hire some new clerks that are recommended by Ginny Thomas.  

I don't think she'd want to hire any replacements. 

59 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

How much will Cannon be able to delay the case due to the staff shortage?  She has to have time to hire and train replacements, right?

Ding Ding Ding. 

 

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I just read the update on that clerk stuff and apparently it's a big nothingburger. The clerks quit last summer (one due to pregnancy; the other for unknown reasons) and she now has a full staff of clerks.

So no conspiracy on her part to delay due to lack of staff.

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25 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

Judges screw stuff up all the time. Which is why trial courts get reviewed and overturned by appellate courts. Which is why appellate courts are reviewed and get overturned by supreme courts.  Some judges are just bad judges, and get overturned a lot. There is practically nothing you can do if they are elected, except point out the stupidity at the end of their term and hope they don’t get reelected. Judge Cannon, on the other hand, was appointed for life - and it takes conviction by the senate after a house impeachment to get her off the bench.

So while I share your frustration, I will await your solution to the problem.  Texas has more than your fair share of idiots, clowns, dishonest grifters and incompetent ideologues  as any state in America, yet you do nothing about it.   Or maybe you can’t do anything about it.   But going off on the legal community for not solving the problem of Judge Cannon is like going off on Texas for not solving your fill-in-the-blank politician problem.

Sometimes things are just hard and unpleasant and depressing and the problem can’t be pegged on a small subset of folks. 

There are ways to get shitty judges removed from cases when they constantly fuck up.  Use those.  

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1 hour ago, The Dog said:

I just read the update on that clerk stuff and apparently it's a big nothingburger. The clerks quit last summer (one due to pregnancy; the other for unknown reasons) and she now has a full staff of clerks.

So no conspiracy on her part to delay due to lack of staff.

 

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33 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Actually not many if any. 

 

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Oh well, this should go well.  Just a few murdered U.S. citizens trying to do the right thing.  Yeah, this won't erupt into some unintended consequences.  I wonder if Eric Trump will be listed?  

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37 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

That can’t be real. 
 

And maybe the surly law dogs can explain to me, but how would a judge even have the ability to “allow” this?  Unless it were his own witnesses for the defense?  

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1 hour ago, atomheartbevo said:

 

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She looks like what appears when you shove your thumb into a box of wine and chant "Donald Trump" three times into a mirror in the employee bathroom at Cracker Barrel.  

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7 hours ago, Rimbo said:

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Berkeley Breathed representing.  

8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

Not seeing this anywhere else. Doesn’t mean it’s not legit.

They were commenting on this on Dateline: White House

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7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The reason I think Cannon is galactically stupid is not limited to the fact that she is bungling the law so badly.

If she wants to throw the case for Trump, this is among the most unwieldy, obvious, and obviously appealable and reversible ways to do it.  And if that is her plan, she apparently is too stupid to realize it.  

All this will do is delay the case.  There are subtler, more discretionary, and unappealable ways to do that.

She hasn't fucked this thing up yet, but if she persists on her current course, she's going to get another public spanking from the 11th Circuit.

I'm worried about that double jeopardy thing. 

When is Jack Smith going to ask to have her removed?

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27 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

I'm worried about that double jeopardy thing. 

When is Jack Smith going to ask to have her removed?

Good point. I was thinking in terms of her using this procedure to boost an attempt to dismiss the indictment on these counts. 

If she just flat fucks the jury instructions and that results in an acquittal, we will all be holding our dicks. 

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41 minutes ago, tbone_ said:

Well no shit

3 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

Leopards Eat Face Party 

This is going to be a fun one to point out to (R) relatives, but causally like “ I think it’s great the Republican Party is directing political donations to Trump’s legal problems rather than down-ballot campaigns, because anybody against that is against Donald Trump and not a real Republican anyways.”

George Soros is getting his money’s worth having Trump people destroy the RNC and turning it into an ATM to pay Trump’s personal bills.

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On 3/19/2024 at 10:31 AM, Brisketexan said:

Man....Cathy Lee in her prime was 80s-riffic.

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My brother and I were watching the show and I said to him, "she's pretty".  His response was, " she's not pretty, she's a fox!'

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Good point. I was thinking in terms of her using this procedure to boost an attempt to dismiss the indictment on these counts. 

If she just flat fucks the jury instructions and that results in an acquittal, we will all be holding our dicks. 

In all fairness, I'll be holding my dick either way 

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1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

OK, you asked . . .

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Sooo…we don’t know. Oh well. I assumed since there was an autocomplete that there would be something on the other end. (And that you would’ve already checked them out, natch.)

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10 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

The reason I think Cannon is galactically stupid is not limited to the fact that she is bungling the law so badly.

If she wants to throw the case for Trump, this is among the most unwieldy, obvious, and obviously appealable and reversible ways to do it.  And if that is her plan, she apparently is too stupid to realize it.  

All this will do is delay the case.  There are subtler, more discretionary, and unappealable ways to do that.

She hasn't fucked this thing up yet, but if she persists on her current course, she's going to get another public spanking from the 11th Circuit.

 

9 hours ago, The Dog said:

rumor is that two of Cannon's clerks just quit.

 

9 hours ago, Scheiss Meister said:

How much will Cannon be able to delay the case due to the staff shortage?  She has to have time to hire and train replacements, right?

Can we rename Calvinball 

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to Cannonball?

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5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

If she just flat fucks the jury instructions and that results in an acquittal, we will all be holding our dicks. 

And what exactly are we looking at in this situation?

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6 hours ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

lulz

 

Trump is going to school Republicans on how he was able to bankrupt a casino.  He should also have his own megachurch; the cross fits right into the first initial of his last name. 

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6 hours ago, Mdhorn said:

He should also have his own megachurch

Please don't say that out loud again.  That absolutely is the strongest play for him.  It's already a religious experience for his ilk, and I don't even want to imagine a reality with him on TV (more than he is now) with people sending him tax exempt money instead of in a cell talking about crawdads and (deconstructed) hamburders.

 

 

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7 hours ago, C-Man said:

And what exactly are we looking at in this situation?

If she gave really bad/wrong jury instructions that force the jury to acquit on the classified information counts, we're looking at acquittal with no remedy. 

However, that would not affect the obstruction counts, where the evidence is maybe even stronger. 

The problem is that the government indicted on the section of 793 that requires that the defendant lack authority to possess the classified information in the first place, while they could have alleged the section that doesn't require that. 

She appears to want to instruct the jury that the PRA may initially have made his possession of these documents rightful, even after they had left the white house.  And they have to make a finding on that. 

The PRA does no such thing. 

My initial read was that she was attempting to use this process to make it easier to grant Trump"s motion to dismiss on the PRA. 

But she could just be girding up to give bad jury instructions. For which the government has no remedy except to dismiss the case before a jury is sworn and bring it again. In that event, doing jury instructions early like this helps the government. If they were done after the jury was sworn as is more conventional, the government would have no remedy at all. 

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