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2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I can fap to this?

I'm guessing that at some point in history a man/men took care of business to the cave paintings in Lascaux, I'm guessing you are in the clear.  

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Posted
Just now, BamaATL said:

I'm guessing that at some point in history a man/men took care of business to the cave paintings in Lascaux, I'm guessing you are in the clear.  

I meant the news moreso than the courtroom sketch ... but speakin' of no one's lookin' ...

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

because what that means is that the judge isn't giving me anything to complain about on appeal

This, all day long.  Of course, Chapter one in The Secret of Success on Appeal is called "Win at Trial."  The rest of the chapters have to do with what happens if you don't.

 

It's also the reason that he's trying to avoid jail for contempt if at all possible and why he's being careful in tailoring the gag order.  The last thing he wants is an interlocutory appeal with a possible stay of trial with a jury empaneled.  Sure, it's a long shot, but Trump doesn't care about the odds (insert failed casino joke here).

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Posted
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Just extracted this statement from one of the summaries above to point out what that often means.

As a trial lawyer, I get the MOST nervous when the judge is doing all he can to accommodate my requests, grant my objections, etc.  In short, I worry when everything is going my way, because what that means is that the judge isn't giving me anything to complain about on appeal.  He knows I'm going to be fucked by the outcome at the trial court, and he wants to make sure that I don't have any leg to stand on if I try to appeal.

Seriously, I can recall the feeling of being in trial, and at a particular moment, ALL of the rulings started going my way.  It didn't take long for me to realize "oh fuck....I'm about to lose this fucking case."  If you're good, and lucky, you can pivot your approach to maybe give yourself a chance to win.  But sometimes, the judge knows what the outcome is going to be, and wants it to hold up on appeal, so he's made a record that will help that happen.

In this case, there's also an element of the judge not wanting to seem like he's a tool of any partisan/political plot (fat chance of that, what he does isn't what matters - what Trump SAYS is the only thing that matters to the cult), but there's also surely an element of him not wanting to give the defense any good grounds for an appeal of the eventual verdict.

I remember learning about this way back during the IBM vs SCO lawsuit, when SCO (with backing from Microsoft) was basically suing IBM for putting copyrighted code from UNIX (which, ironically, SCO didn't even really own the rights to, not like they thought they did) into Linux.

A paralegal, frustrated with the idiocy she saw on Slashdot and elsewhere from the nerds who cared deeply about the case but understood nothing about the legal system, started up a blog to cover the details of what was REALLY happening.

At some point pretty early on, she said that the judge was Actively Managing the case. And she explained what that meant: The judge had already figured out what he was going to rule, and from this point forward was more or less going to make sure that the ruling was going to be solid and un-appealable.

(IBM won. Big. No appeal succeeded.)

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Posted
1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Hearing CNN talk about how Hope Hicks clearly cared for him and felt bad just shows how soulless a ghoul she is.  No decent human being could go through the past several years being that adjacent to that fuck head and still think he's a good guy.  What a broken human she is.

The media are cunts.  I’m convinced they want fascism.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Total amount paid out to date...

Fuck all

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I suppose you’re excluding the bonds. Now explain how him paying “fuck all” so far is due to special treatment and how anyone else would have already been made to pay. 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

This reinforces the fact that his followers are the dumbest people.  He commits crimes right out in the open.  He commits non-criminal, but deplorable acts right out in the open.  Yet these people are not smart enough to see it when it is in front of their face.  

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Posted
5 hours ago, Rimbo said:

I mean, that's literally what they just talked about re: the Access Hollywood tape. If you're famous, "they" let you get away with everything.

On the other hand, "they" aren't courts of law. "They" are the public and the media.

Plenty of women have known guys with Trump‘s attitude (but not his fame or money) who think they can get away with anything. Maybe it’s a boss or a co-worker, or a neighbor, whatever.  Hopefully some of those women ended up on the jury.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Or running Tesla and Twitter.

Speaking of which, as a Tesla shareholder (I know), I voted against all their board compensation measures today.  I've never voted as a shareholder for any company before today.  Fuck you Elon.  But I do love my car.  I got it before he went nuts!

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Speaking of which, as a Tesla shareholder (I know), I voted against all their board compensation measures today.  I've never voted as a shareholder for any company before today.  Fuck you Elon.  But I do love my car.  I got it before he went nuts!

“I liked Trump from the Apprentice” isn’t the flex you think it is sir. 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

I wouldn't trust her at all, that's not a lie that'll be easy to definitively uncover, and she knows it'd be a bombshell if she said he admitted it 

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and I strongly disagree that he never admits anything ever
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

Hearing CNN talk about how Hope Hicks clearly cared for him and felt bad just shows how soulless a ghoul she is.  No decent human being could go through the past several years being that adjacent to that fuck head and still think he's a good guy.  What a broken human she is.

C'mon man, you're better than this.  They did a good job describing how he treated her like a daughter (unlike Ivanka) and much different than other people in his world.  She was relatively young and impressionable. After Jan 6 she broke off, but the emotions prior don't just die for anyone human. She's far from a ghoul.

Beyond that CNN has a great panel of prosecutors and one defense attorey talking about the sausage making of a trial.  Even if you don't like CNN it's really interesting. There's so much detail into the thinking and dancing between defense and prosecution production I find really interesting.

And she's really hot, so if you speak her name again it's soulless DIME.

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7 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

This seems as good a thread as any to bring it up...repeatedly if the frustration level fits.  My frustration level with this shit-stain hit defcon1 years ago.   I'm not going to apologize for pointing out the special boy's special treatment for the umpteenth time. 

Who asked you to apologize?

I find it boring to constantly read those same comments over and over - because there is never anything new or interesting or insightful that accompanies that mantra.  But maybe that’s just me. Feel free to Groundhog Day your observations to your heart’s content. I’m the last guy who posts on this site with any ability or right to change things, guest pest that I am.

Trump is a shit stain who gets treatment other people might not get.  We will sign the fucking affidavit.  But if we do, I suspect many here will  keep posting the same thing for the umpty-umpteenth time.  No problem.  And I have to tell you, Trump makes me so crazy that I go off all the time complaining about it to my family.  They are a bit tired of it, but I don’t stop, so I sure can’t ask anything different of you.  Mea culpa and all….It’s not like you shot a puppy in the head in a gravel pit

 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

This may be Trump’s greatest contribution to our society.  Its like a progressive tax on being stupid.  The stupider you are, the greater the tax becomes in relation to your means.

 

Its like the lottery

 

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Mach 1 said:

C'mon man, you're better than this.  They did a good job describing how he treated her like a daughter (unlike Ivanka) and much different than other people in his world.  She was relatively young and impressionable. After Jan 6 she broke off, but the emotions prior don't just die for anyone human. She's far from a ghoul.

Beyond that CNN has a great panel of prosecutors and one defense attorey talking about the sausage making of a trial.  Even if you don't like CNN it's really interesting. There's so much detail into the thinking and dancing between defense and prosecution production I find really interesting.

And she's really hot, so if you speak her name again it's soulless DIME.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Who asked you to apologize?

I find it boring to constantly read those same comments over and over - because there is never anything new or interesting or insightful that accompanies that mantra.  But maybe that’s just me. Feel free to Groundhog Day your observations to your heart’s content. I’m the last guy who posts on this site with any ability or right to change things, guest pest that I am.

Trump is a shit stain who gets treatment other people might not get.  We will sign the fucking affidavit.  But if we do, I suspect many here will  keep posting the same thing for the umpty-umpteenth time.  No problem.  And I have to tell you, Trump makes me so crazy that I go off all the time complaining about it to my family.  They are a bit tired of it, but I don’t stop, so I sure can’t ask anything different of you.  Mea culpa and all….It’s not like you shot a puppy in the head in a gravel pit

 

I could attribute this same quote, word for word, to you lawyers on this site that keep saying the same bullshit over and over about how it’s just working as designed. Literally every word. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

I could attribute this same quote, word for word, to you lawyers on this site that keep saying the same bullshit over and over about how it’s just working as designed. Literally every word. 

Except that the law-dogs actually have an informative point to make.

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Posted
2 hours ago, High Plains Drifter said:

 

Its like the lottery

 

 

Every week or so one or more people come out way ahead playing the lottery and a bunch more recoup some earlier losses.  Trump shows no such thing. 

Posted
12 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

This is a really fresh take. We have not seen this issue brought up before.

Here is a suggestion: why not start a thread in CR and call it “justice system powerless against orange shit stain”.  As we go through Trump‘s various trials, every time the justice system displeases you, you and your unhappy brethren can post in that thread, and not continually interject that same opinion/observation throughout this thread.     

It is not an invalid topic, to be sure, and given the frequency and passion expressed in similar comments by several posters, it would seem that that topic legitimately deserves its own thread. 

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Posted
7 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

This may be Trump’s greatest contribution to our society.  Its like a progressive tax on being stupid.  The stupider you are, the greater the tax becomes in relation to your means.

Taxes are supposed to go towards things that are a collective societal benefit. 

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Posted

The thing about Trump, if you take away the judgment of him personally and the threat he presents, is that he's just such a bizarre individual.  The combination of wealth, extreme narcissism, and stupidity means that he creates situations that have largely never before been encountered.  Especially when you consider that he has an audience that uncritically swallows every utterance.

His treatment seems special, but it's like every "institution" he encounters doesn't quite know what to do with him.

The law, or more accurately the Latin language, has a word for it/him:  sui generis.

For example, the gag order.  Most criminal defendants don't get gagged, because they really have nothing to say and usually no platform to say it on.  There are plenty of defendants that are probably as crazy as Trump and have unhinged things to say about their court cases, but no one would listen or publicize it.  No one would argue that their crazed bloviation influences witnesses.

Even most politicians, see Cuellar and Menendez, have little to say and don't want to say it except under carefully controlled circumstances (e.g. remarks prepared by counsel made in a short press conference).  Most defendants couldn't rely on 1A/political speech as a defense to the gag order or its application to them.  They wouldn't try to run for reelection in most cases and wouldn't make prosecution a central point of their campaigns.

So, it's a lot of fun to speculate or argue that anyone else would have gotten hammered by now on things like the gag order.  But there really isn't a valid comparison to Trump.

Although it's a factor, Trump's "wealth" and ability to hire counsel to push the limits for him aren't the sole reason everything is so weird around him.  He's just such a fucking weirdo is what it boils down to.

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Posted
1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

She used to steam Trump’s suits while he was wearing them. I’ll bet he loved that, especially if she ever got down on her knees to do it.

Gross

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