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37 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

You'll get that with Arch when we have consistent OL play. 

 

I'm not going to spend time arguing about it but Arch created the problem that he had to fix in the 4th qtr. You guys always do this. Arch struggled to play inside the confines of the offense when we were running our base offense and MSU was being aggressive defensively. We spread it out more, and as you know more passing targets on the field make offense easier. It forces the defense to spread out, gets you more one on ones, makes it easier to read the defense, and moves bodies away from the LOS. MSU helped us by basically playing prevent. Arch wasn't having to read a lot. He was in see route throw route mode, and that's where he is best. That said, we should all be worried as soon as we go back into normal offense, because those bad tendencies show right back up again. The O'line isn't reason he doesn't see checkdowns, or misses easy screen passes and slants. 

That said it was good to see him slinging it around. The tools are there. Sark needs to give Wingo Worthy's package. He is not a downfield receiver. Keep him around the LOS and let him catch and run. He doesn't win 50/50's ever. Frustrating to watch. 

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32 minutes ago, hornbri said:

Where are the 9.95s with an injury update for us?

I don’t need to make up sources to tell you he’s in concussion protocol and he will be re evaluated in a couple days 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

First clip of Arch I've seen post-game. 

 

I got sucker punched by a massive local out here a couple months ago and got concussed. This was me on the way to the car.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

I got sucker punched by a massive local out here a couple months ago and got concussed. This was me on the way to the car.

Were you surfing a locals only beach?

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14 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

First clip of Arch I've seen post-game. 

 

Poor guy. He's so concussed he doesn't realize how many passes he missed in quarters 1-3, in his 10th collegiate start. -Surly

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23 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

I got sucker punched by a massive local out here a couple months ago and got concussed. This was me on the way to the car.

We need the whole story here!?!

Posted
2 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Just our/his luck for Arch to get a little hot and then be out for a couple weeks.



We will win both games with Caldwell as the starter.  Then there will be a huge QB controversy, with former Applewhite devotees calling for the plucky Caldwell to start because all he does is win and Simms mavens saying that Arch should start because of his massive physical talent. 

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1 minute ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:



We will win both games with Caldwell as the starter.  Then there will be a huge QB controversy, with former Applewhite devotees calling for the plucky Caldwell to start because all he does is win and Simms mavens saying that Arch should start because of his massive physical talent. 

Nobody is beating Georgia with this OL

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Posted (edited)

Just rewatched 4th qtr. Once Arch dialed in, we had some real bad work from receivers. Drops, bad routes, and blocking ok shorter stuff from WRs was bad.

Got to put it all together.

EDIT: Endries & Wisner included.

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Just rewatched 4th qtr. Once Arch dialed in, we had some real bad work from receivers. Drops, bad routes, and blocking ok shorter stuff from WRs was bad.
Got to put it all together.
EDIT: Endries & Wisner included.

I was actually glad to see him chastise Wingo on the out route that he didn’t come down with. It wasn’t a great throw, but Arch looked to be telling him to run a better route.
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7 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I can't find the post from another thread, but I think @Thatguy is right. We're doing this all wrong with Arch. 

I know he came here for Sark's NFL-esque offense. But right now, he's pretty shitty at all that stuff. His timing sucks, struggles with play action, we're playing bunched 12 personnel all the time and depending on too many rhythmic passing plays. While playing behind one of the shittiest OLs I can remember.

Simplify everything. Spread it out. Embrace off-schedule plays/throws. If he needs to see guys open in order to throw it, then get him out of the fucking pocket to create. Honestly, it reminds me of the VY situation with Mack/GD. 

If it pisses off the Manning family, so be it. Do they want him to be successful, or continue to struggle in a style that he's clearly not ready for while getting killed in the pocket? 

100% this. Been saying this shit since literally about 2Q vs Ohio State. I would add "move the motherfucking pocket" more often.  But nope. We keep doing the same fucking shit and he keeps getting pounded into Bolivian.

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8 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I can't find the post from another thread, but I think @Thatguy is right. We're doing this all wrong with Arch. 

I know he came here for Sark's NFL-esque offense. But right now, he's pretty shitty at all that stuff. His timing sucks, struggles with play action, we're playing bunched 12 personnel all the time and depending on too many rhythmic passing plays. While playing behind one of the shittiest OLs I can remember.

Simplify everything. Spread it out. Embrace off-schedule plays/throws. If he needs to see guys open in order to throw it, then get him out of the fucking pocket to create. Honestly, it reminds me of the VY situation with Mack/GD. 

If it pisses off the Manning family, so be it. Do they want him to be successful, or continue to struggle in a style that he's clearly not ready for while getting killed in the pocket? 

 

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Posted (edited)

Who was the staffer sitting with Arch on the sideline between drives? I dont recall ever seeing him. Young guy, dark hair. Saw him with Arch a few times. Maybe holding a tablet too.

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5 minutes ago, CurlyDumps said:

Who was the staffer sitting with Arch on the sideline between drives? I dont recall ever seeing him. Young guy, dark hair. Saw him with Arch a few times.

I don't recall his name, but he is an offensive assistant that is usually in the booth. They brought him down to the field and sent Milwee up to the booth to change things up this week. Don't remember where I read/saw that. 

EDIT: found it 

 

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What the fuck has milwee been doing on the sideline? Looking at the trainers? I agree Texas should be playing 4 and 5 wide for most of the game. Lining up with a couple of TE when none of them are great is aggravating. It just makes it worse when everyone is in tight.

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I can't find the post from another thread, but I think @Thatguy is right. We're doing this all wrong with Arch. 

I know he came here for Sark's NFL-esque offense. But right now, he's pretty shitty at all that stuff. His timing sucks, struggles with play action, we're playing bunched 12 personnel all the time and depending on too many rhythmic passing plays. While playing behind one of the shittiest OLs I can remember.

Simplify everything. Spread it out. Embrace off-schedule plays/throws. If he needs to see guys open in order to throw it, then get him out of the fucking pocket to create. Honestly, it reminds me of the VY situation with Mack/GD. 

If it pisses off the Manning family, so be it. Do they want him to be successful, or continue to struggle in a style that he's clearly not ready for while getting killed in the pocket? 

 

 

sark and staff have been coaching him the past two years. let that sink in, he looks like he's straight from HS ball 

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These QB threads are wild.

This kid was really fucking good today. He'd be even better if Wingo could catch the ball and Livingstone didn't tip-drill a pick. 

Like how many yards and TDs was he supposed to have today? 

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2 hours ago, Jkwellborn said:

What the fuck has milwee been doing on the sideline? 

Not talking to the position he coaches apparently. Ive never seen him once? Saw this Mike Bimonte cat at least twice.

Was kinda nice not seeing our QB sitting alone and staring off into space like he has PTSD when things werent going well. 

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  Sark is a great head coach. Late stage Mack Brown, Charley Strong, and Tom Herman all failed miserably. Sark revived this program and made it relevant again for the first time in over a decade. I am not hesitant to say that I badly want him to stay. All of you geniuses on here saying you want him gone know nothing about the game of football and you will be the first morons complaining about the next coach we bring in. This season was always going to be somewhat of a rebuilding year due to the inexperience on the OL. If the media convinced you that this was a NC caliber team, then once again you know nothing about football. The one thing that could not be forseen by anyone, not Sark, not the media, and certainly not you, was the spectacularly bad play of Arch Manning. He is simply a head case, and has nearly single handedly destroyed this program. He is the issue, not the OL, not the play calling, not Sark, just him. I have never seen this site be so wrong about something.

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Maybe don’t throw into double coverage

I need to see a better angle of that play. I couldn’t tell if it was double coverage or just Wingo’a guy leaving his assignment to break on that ball after it was thrown. I want to see where that second defender was and what they were doing right before the ball was thrown.
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4 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Arch is out for Vandy. We need to accept that and move on. 

Even if true, we won’t know definitely until the injury report is out on Thursday. Whether he can practice by Tuesday/Wed will also be an indicator 

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It doesn’t matter if it was double coverage, he beat it and the ball was perfectly thrown.
It bounced off of Livingstone’s hands.
How about our receivers catch the fucking ball when the QB hits them in the hands, in stride?
Seemed to be a problem quite a few times today.
Such an easy concept, but seems to be easier for trolls (like the one you responded to) to blame it on the QB

I thought the DB got to Livingston a little early and cut his legs out from under him. They weren’t gonna call the DPI on it though.
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11 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

I got sucker punched by a massive local out here a couple months ago and got concussed. This was me on the way to the car.

That him in your avatar?

Posted
3 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

 

I mean he was basically our entire offense yesterday despite getting the shit beat out of him all game with free rushers repeatedly coming through the A and B gaps but a handful of idiot posters on here still wanted to see him benched.

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9 hours ago, wood said:

100% this. Been saying this shit since literally about 2Q vs Ohio State. I would add "move the motherfucking pocket" more often.  But nope. We keep doing the same fucking shit and he keeps getting pounded into Bolivian.

You're expecting a coach, who twice tried passing on third and short, only to fail, then decided to pass on third and short again the next time, to change his ways. That may be a tall task.

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