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5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

All it takes is Iran saying, "the US strike has only delayed our nuclear program by months" and we can do this all over again. 

And they will create decoy sites to soak up our bombs.  

Posted
5 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

All it takes is Iran saying, "the US strike has only delayed our nuclear program by months" and we can do this all over again. 

 

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21 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

I find it a little hard to believe that over the course of a week since the war started, with air superiority, the Israelis just watched the Iranian's back up trucks to Fordrow and load it up with an unidentified cargo and drive away. Or the US overhead satellites feeding intelligence to the IDF. 

My guess is that every truck for the last month or more has been tracked via satellite (and knowing Mossad via on the ground GPS locators as well), and they already have a solid idea of where it may be stored as a backup.

The real problem is that we are talking about is at most a few hundred kilograms of enriched material, so tracking it is more problematic than just burying it under the rubble.

The only way to get Iran to try to transport out of Fordow was to make it so that getting hit was imminent. Now what is interesting is was the timing of the Guam flight was done on purpose, knowing the Iranian evacuation plan for an impending US strike? Is it better to bury the current enriched uranium deep under Fordow and hope no one can recover it, collapse it near the surface (and therefore need boots on the ground to recover it) or get them to transport it and capture it either in route or at another location. 

I think Israel and the US were hoping the very visible head-fake of the B2 flight heading to Guam got Iran to stage whatever they had left in the facilities in the transport tunnels waiting to depart in the morning, which instead got struck at 2 am local time. That puts it reachable with some work, but easily policed by air to make sure it "stays put" by not allowing any re-excavation until the time that either there is a regime change, a deal in place that requires that material to be recovered and turned over under US/Israeli supervision, or Israeli boots on the ground.

 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

No, they wouldn’t have done it by now, because they don’t have the capability. I tend to agree with you that they would seek one as a deterrent, but Israel can’t take that chance, and we shouldn’t either. I also agree that the Iranian capability prior to Saturday was vastly overstated from Bibi and Trump, but I don’t know. None of us do. These are my suppositions. 

Give me a fucking break, dude. Israel doesn't believe Iran would nuke them any more than I do. The reasoning given for their pre-emptive strike is 100% complete and utter bullshit, and every serious person in the world fucking knows it. The true goal is and always has been regime change. The nuclear program is a red herring and you should be smart enough to recognize it.

You should ask yourself if you would be this concerned if Saudi Arabia possessed a nuclear weapon, considering they A) areone of the two main countries that we're doing this at the behest of, and B) they have literally attacked us in deadly fashion this century. If your answer is no, you should take that as a major clue that you need to re-examine your world view.

I'm not even saying the true goal is a bad one. Obviously, of course it would be a big positive if Iran were no longer run by extremists. At least then one of the countries in this fucked up devil's 3 way wouldn't be. We (and Israel) have to lie to the world about it because regime change is not considered adequate reasoning to unilaterally attack a country by any measure of international law or decorum. Period, end of story.

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On 6/22/2025 at 7:58 AM, Captainant said:

I mean, it sure does not seem like the end of it. The houthi attacks ramped up after their general was taken off the board. I'd bet were going to see a significant increase in terrorist threats, and particularly targeting US soft infra like power grids and public infrastructure. Good thing the US head of counter terrorism is 22 and worked at HEB this time last year, he's got those bad guys bagged. 

Edit: had to include his no-kidding-actually-real administration photo

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Holy shit, Chris Murphy is stealing your material!

 

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Give me a fucking break, dude. Israel doesn't believe Iran would nuke them any more than I do. The reasoning given for their pre-emptive strike is 100% complete and utter bullshit, and every serious person in the world fucking knows it. The true goal is and always has been regime change. The nuclear program is a red herring and you should be smart enough to recognize it.

You should ask yourself if you would be this concerned if Saudi Arabia possessed a nuclear weapon, considering they A) areone of the two main countries that we're doing this at the behest of, and B) they have literally attacked us in deadly fashion this century. If your answer is no, you should take that as a major clue that you need to re-examine your world view.

I'm not even saying the true goal is a bad one. Obviously, of course it would be a big positive if Iran were no longer run by extremists. At least then one of the countries in this fucked up devil's 3 way wouldn't be. We (and Israel) have to lie to the world about it because regime change is not considered adequate reasoning to unilaterally attack a country by any measure of international law or decorum. Period, end of story.

Also, the fact that your beliefs on this matter align more or less completely with the nutjobs leading our country and religious extremists like Johnny Sack should give you at least a little pause.

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55 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

How much 60+% enriched uranium do you think they have? You could haul their entire stockpile somewhere in the bed of a mid-90s Chevy S10 Toyota Hilux.

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Posted
3 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

Cope. We started a war. You wanna back out now?

 

3 hours ago, Hitch said:

Iran doesn’t want a war with the U.S., they communicated where they were attacking beforehand. 

 

3 hours ago, CycleTex87 said:

The war's over, but its all about the friends we made along the way, right?

 

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Duane Moore said:

Fingers crossed, but so far this is following the precedent of the Soleimani strike and response. We’ll see if Iran has more, but they seem to be signaling this is it:

Hey catch me up on what the Soleimani strike did for the US. While no US soldiers died in the Iran response, 7 or 8 had their brains scrambled. For what purpose? What person of any note whatsoever thought it was a good idea?

 

1 hour ago, Bateshorn said:

I find it a little hard to believe that over the course of a week since the war started, with air superiority, the Israelis just watched the Iranian's back up trucks to Fordrow and load it up with an unidentified cargo and drive away. Or the US overhead satellites feeding intelligence to the IDF. 

The article sources two separate israelis in the intelligence field with direct knowledge of the situation. 

1 hour ago, Laxtonto said:

My guess is

FFS, Dotard was tweeting about the need to evacuate Tehran a week ago, well before the flights over the Pacific.

50 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Also, the fact that your beliefs on this matter align more or less completely with the nutjobs leading our country and religious extremists like Johnny Sack should give you at least a little pause.

Did you intend to address that q to yourself?

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4 hours ago, Pasken said:

Nobody actually got hurt? You don't think 100 people getting traumatic brain injuries is people getting hurt?

I should have clarified the nobody was hurt part though, obviously PTSD is real and horrible.

Looks like I was right. Sounds like de-escalation and exit ramp is on the table.

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

I thought this was a puddle brain take about Ukraine

Your take was a “pudding-brained” one and I’m still not going to engage further with a pudding-brain on why. 

I think that labrador retrievers  are generally “puddle brained” and I’d honestly prefer hearing their thoughts. 

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56 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

I argued with your comment that if Iran wanted a nuke, it could’ve done so by now. That is simply not the case.

What, exactly, was stopping them? They've had the fissile material to do it. They know how to build them. They have the ballistic missile technology to hit all of our strategic interests, including Israel. Are they just lazy?

58 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Not sure what you’re arguing about. I argued with your comment that if Iran wanted a nuke, it could’ve done so by now. That is simply not the case. I mean you’re using circular logic. You seem to take issue with the fact that Israel and the US bombed Iran under a false premise and that somehow I’m arguing they did not. I’m not arguing that. 

So what are you arguing? That launching unilateral bombing campaigns against a sovereign country under false pretenses is a good thing? Help me understand.

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Holy shit my takeaway from this little kerfuffle is that if you bought Soviet or Chinese air defense equipment you’ve been put on notice you’re fucked.  This is a huge boon to western manufacturers of air defense and especially to anti missile defense.  Crazy how easily Israel established air superiority and that there is basically nothing Iran can do except asymmetric responses at this point.

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2 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

I don’t disagree with that. Just the narrative that the Iran’s just straight trucked a bunch of 60-90% enriched uranium out and nobody in combined intelligence community said “hmm, I wonder what’s in those 18 wheelers?”

The amount I've heard the amount of enriched uranium they had is 400 kg give or take.  You could haul that in the back of your 1-ton dually.

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16 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Hey catch me up on what the Soleimani strike did for the US. While no US soldiers died in the Iran response, 7 or 8 had their brains scrambled. For what purpose? What person of any note whatsoever thought it was a good idea?

Soleimani was the mastermind behind Iranian attacks on American soldiers in Iraq, especially in the production and distribution of EFP’s that killed and maimed thousands of Americans. His assassination crippled IRGC efforts across the region and likely saved many lives, including those of Americans, from Iranian-backed terrorism. It also disrupted the operations of Iranian proxy networks who depended on Soleimani’s experience and strategy, preventing complex, high impact attacks. The strike was made after recent provocations by Iran on American interests (2019 attack on US base in Iraq, and on American Embassy in Baghdad) and re-established deterrence against Iran from further actions. 
 

TL;DR Soleimani was their best General, responsible for thousands of American casualties, and his death weakened Iran’s ability to project power on the interests of America and its allies. 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Hefeweizen said:

Holy shit my takeaway from this little kerfuffle is that if you bought Soviet or Chinese air defense equipment you’ve been put on notice you’re fucked.  This is a huge boon to western manufacturers of air defense and especially to anti missile defense.  Crazy how easily Israel established air superiority and that there is basically nothing Iran can do except asymmetric responses at this point.

This whole thing has been a mastercourse across the spectrum. Its absolutely true that we’ve learned how to stay ahead of most adversaries on the technical level, but Iran has been outclassed at every level. Israeli intelligence, cyber, and special forces were integral to making this possible and these are areas where peer adversaries will be more capable than the Iranians. And its harder to do globally.


There are reports that Israel left letters under the door for key regime supporters warning them to jump ship or risk being targets.  Israel has simply had dominance across most domains and could choose where to engage. 
 

And the bravura performance here strikes at the heart of the “Muslim street’s” mass neuroses about Israel. It’s more about the constant humiliation across any engagement than it ever was about Gaza or Palestine, its a primal thing. 
 

 

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9 minutes ago, CycleTex87 said:

The amount I've heard the amount of enriched uranium they had is 400 kg give or take.  You could haul that in the back of your 1-ton dually.

In theory, sure, but I assume there's some sort of containment around the radioactive, corrosive, and chemotoxic material.  

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Posted
Just now, Duane Moore said:

Since it seems like you haven’t heard of Soleimani before, I’d recommend this long profile on him by Dexter Filkins in the Atlantic from 2013. He was an undeniably bad dude. 
 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/30/the-shadow-commander

Okay bro, cool. If the answers to my questions were so obvious, why did you have to run off to grok to get an answer and then pretend like you wrote it? Again, you still haven't answered either question, which is fine, we'll end it there. It's obvious you don't have an answer. 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, utee94 said:

In theory, sure, but I assume there's some sort of containment around the radioactive, corrosive, and chemotoxic material.  

Naw bro, just shovel that shit in back it'll be fine. What could go wrong?

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Posted
4 minutes ago, utee94 said:

In theory, sure, but I assume there's some sort of containment around the radioactive, corrosive, and chemotoxic material.  

jfc ask the IAEA

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Posted
17 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

What, exactly, was stopping them? They've had the fissile material to do it. They know how to build them. They have the ballistic missile technology to hit all of our strategic interests, including Israel. Are they just lazy?

Israel for starters - over the last decade (that we know about):

  • In Jan 2010, nuclear physicist Massoud Ali-Mohammadi stepped out of his Tehran home. A parked motorcycle exploded via remote detonation, killing him instantly. Mossad spent months meticulously planning this
  • In Nov 2010, Mossad agents on motorcycles attached a magnet bomb to Iranian nuclear scientist Majid Shahriari's car door in Tehran. It detonated seconds later, killing him. Shahriari's death severely impacted Iran's nuclear development timeline.
  • Stuxnet - In Operation Olympic Games, Israel (with US cooperation) deployed the Stuxnet virus into Natanz nuclear facility. Over 1,000 centrifuges were destroyed by spinning uncontrollably. Iran's uranium enrichment was set back by several years.
  • Supply Chain disruptions - Mossad agents systematically sabotaged Iran's nuclear supply chains in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East covertly inserting faulty components into critical nuclear equipment. Machines broke unpredictably, delaying progress significantly.
  • 2018, Mossad stole over 55,000 pages of Iran's secret nuclear archives from a heavily guarded Tehran warehouse exposing the regime's nuclear ambitions and humiliating Iran's security apparatus publicly.
  • Natanz Explosion in July '20 and then the Karaj Facility attack in July '21 - both widely attributed to the Israeli's. 
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2 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Israel for starters - over the last decade (that we know about):

  • In Jan 2010, nuclear physicist Massoud Ali-Mohammadi stepped out of his Tehran home. A parked motorcycle exploded via remote detonation, killing him instantly. Mossad spent months meticulously planning this
  • In Nov 2010, Mossad agents on motorcycles attached a magnet bomb to Iranian nuclear scientist Majid Shahriari's car door in Tehran. It detonated seconds later, killing him. Shahriari's death severely impacted Iran's nuclear development timeline.
  • Stuxnet - In Operation Olympic Games, Israel (with US cooperation) deployed the Stuxnet virus into Natanz nuclear facility. Over 1,000 centrifuges were destroyed by spinning uncontrollably. Iran's uranium enrichment was set back by several years.
  • Supply Chain disruptions - Mossad agents systematically sabotaged Iran's nuclear supply chains in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East covertly inserting faulty components into critical nuclear equipment. Machines broke unpredictably, delaying progress significantly.
  • 2018, Mossad stole over 55,000 pages of Iran's secret nuclear archives from a heavily guarded Tehran warehouse exposing the regime's nuclear ambitions and humiliating Iran's security apparatus publicly.
  • Natanz Explosion in July '20 and then the Karaj Facility attack in July '21 - both widely attributed to the Israeli's. 

Ok, I get what you're saying, but almost this (aside from Natanz) happened well before they began enriching uranium to 60+%.

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5 minutes ago, utee94 said:

In theory, sure, but I assume there's some sort of containment around the radioactive, corrosive, and chemotoxic material.  

Of course that's tongue in cheek.  The US built Hanford WA and Oak Ridge TN facilities at the cost of billions of today's dollars to create less fissile material than that for the two bombs used in WWII.  

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Israeli sources and IAEA

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JD Vance:

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"Satellite images"

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/vance-hints-uranium-was-moved-after-trump-tipped-off-tehran/

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adding - of course there's one micro-dicked peabrain in the WH who disagrees with the obvious conclusion, and who got the sads from a pathetic parade on his birthday and then watched the tv showing Israeli fighter jets dominate the skies, giving him a pathetic need to act like a tough guy.

Spoiler

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Ok, I get what you're saying, but almost this (aside from Natanz) happened well before they began enriching uranium to 60+%.

That was in April of '21 - prompting the Natanz Attack on April 11th '21.  You apparently need enrichment closer to 90% for a weapon, but they are close - hence the recent movement.  All the internal IDF sabotage, drones, and personnel identification/targeting that takes years and years of preparation and planning obviously stems from this achievement in enrichment.  

Posted
3 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Trump has run for president three times (and arguably more) and won election twice. If that’s not a politician, nobody is.

Confused Trailer Park Boys GIF

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Posted
1 minute ago, hornbri said:

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As if it hasn't been said enough....the most powerful nation in the world is being run by a sponge-brained toddler.  What the fuck even is that shit?

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

As if it hasn't been said enough....the most powerful nation in the world is being run by a sponge-brained toddler.  What the fuck even is that shit?

It hurts so much to try and read. 

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