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3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Every single Dem politician who's speaking out against Joe DESPERATELY wants to defeat Trump. So much so that they believe they have to put THEIR OWN PRESIDENT to bed in order to save whatever is left of this goddamned country.

It. Does. Not. Make. Them. Right.

Switching from Biden at this point is political suicide.  It absolutely 100% ices the vote for Trump.  I'll donate another $1K to Mobile Loaves and Fishes this year if the Dems switch and win.  Hold me to it, I'd be fucking thrilled.

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33 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

I’m expecting Trump to win at this point because that’s what this country wants. Dwelling on it for the next four months would make me insane. 

This is kind of where I'm at except I have been driving myself insane and need to stop.

Maybe we deserve a criminal narcissist POS. Time to get on with my life.

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6 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It. Does. Not. Make. Them. Right.

Switching from Biden at this point is political suicide.  It absolutely 100% ices the vote for Trump.  I'll donate another $1K to Mobile Loaves and Fishes this year if the Dems switch and win.  Hold me to it, I'd be fucking thrilled.

Sticking with Biden at this point is political suicide. It absolutely 100% ices the election for Trump. 

Which the polling/narrative is clearly showing us. 

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10 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Sticking with Biden at this point is political suicide. It absolutely 100% ices the election for Trump. 

Which the polling/narrative is clearly showing us. 

No, it isn't.  

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49 minutes ago, Pam Cummings said:

I just don't have the energy to care about this dude and his mistakes while he talks about shit when G Dubya butchered a lot of shit pretty badly too and we hammered him on it. It didn't hurt his re election.

 

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1 hour ago, CTC2 said:

I’ve long maintained that Trump was just an indictment of our education and mental health treatment systems. You just don’t get a Trump without a good helping of the mentally ill and uneducated.  Add the religious right who prey on the above. Team them up with the bigots and the folks that think this election is about taxes and well, that’s almost a dream team of the American electorate. 

Trump is the symptom.  The populace is the disease.  Sad shit.  

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51 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It. Does. Not. Make. Them. Right.

Switching from Biden at this point is political suicide.  It absolutely 100% ices the vote for Trump.  I'll donate another $1K to Mobile Loaves and Fishes this year if the Dems switch and win.  Hold me to it, I'd be fucking thrilled.

Yep. Joe is our only hope

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1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

It. Does. Not. Make. Them. Right.

Switching from Biden at this point is political suicide.  It absolutely 100% ices the vote for Trump.  I'll donate another $1K to Mobile Loaves and Fishes this year if the Dems switch and win.  Hold me to it, I'd be fucking thrilled.

I genuinely don’t understand this take when every poll shows the vast majority of Democrats want Biden to drop out.

Nobody thinks that of you elect Biden you’re not getting Harris as president at some point before January 20, 2029. So you’re getting all of the negatives of Biden and all of the negatives of Harris, without any of Harris’s positives.

Just eliminate the Biden negatives, and at the same time reap the positives that come with a younger and more dynamic candidate.

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I'm not talking about Dem polls, I'm talking about Biden V Trump polls.  Trusting them is a fool's errand, but they're a dead heat, which makes them even more useless, not "OH MY GERD TRUMP IS A LOCK TO WIN VS BIDEN".

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1 hour ago, MrBig said:

The only way this could be crazier is if Ted Kennedy was running against Trump and we all had to overlook the Chappaquiddick thing to avoid another Trump presidency. 

If Trump crashed his car into the water, the MAGA would be celebrating how great a swimmer he was.  Trump would use it to prove he could have been on the Olympic team and would have probably won more medals that Michael Phelps...

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I don't get the only Biden can win take.  The country's been fucked since trump won the first time.  Likely from well before then.  But you win by being charismatic and bold.  Hell, trump won by being a charismatic, raging asshole.  And the dems win when someone with charisma, Obama or a younger Biden, run, not when they're playing it safe and uninteresting.  And the take is that an 82-year-old who if he can make it though a short press conference is a huge relief is the safe choice boggles my mind.  Never mind that the safe choice rarely wins anyway.

We should be able to do better than demented evil clown vs. demented nice guy.  And if we can't, we deserve what we get.  Dems may well lose regardless, because huge swaths of this country are fucking morons.  But at least go down fighting, and not being so scared of losing they're running someone who appears to be in the early stages of dementia.

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We risked this exact scenario when the Dems nominated Biden in 2020.  People were screaming that he would be not old but ancient should he win and run again.  Here we are.

My take on switching horses is that it is simply a non-starter.  It's never done.  It would not draw a net influx of voters to the Democrat's side.  It just wouldn't.  It would drive more people away than it would bring others in.

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5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

We risked this exact scenario when the Dems nominated Biden in 2020.  People were screaming that he would be not old but ancient should he win and run again.  Here we are.

My take on switching horses is that it is simply a non-starter.  It's never done.  It would not draw a net influx of voters to the Democrat's side.  It just wouldn't.  It would drive more people away than it would bring others in.

Do you have any evidence for this?  Because I think it runs contrary to the empirical evidence and basic common sense.

Harris not only takes away the primary attack against the Democratic candidate. She turns it squarely back on Trump. As bad as Biden looked against Trump, Trump would look even more confused, enfeebled, and incapable if put on a debate stage against Harris.

And you think that doesn’t win voters back to the Democratic ticket?

I mean, that’s just wild to me.

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Do you have any evidence for this?  Because I think it runs contrary to the empirical evidence and basic common sense.
Harris not only takes away the primary attack against the Democratic candidate. She turns it squarely back on Trump. As bad as Biden looked against Trump, Trump would look even more confused, enfeebled, and incapable if put on a debate stage against Harris.
And you think that doesn’t win voters back to the Democratic ticket?
I mean, that’s just wild to me.
Chance of Trump debating any Democratic candidate not named Joe Biden?

Zero.

I'm talking Kelvin Zero.

They're going to have to sneak into a rally and call him out like Beto did to Abbott.
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Only Biden can beat Trump?  WTF, are some of you retarded?

Joe Biden was always an average to below average pol who was good at foreign policy.  He ran for president in 88, 08, and 20 and lost badly each time until the SC primary in 20 when the blacks voted for him because he was Obama’s BFF.  (Had he not been Obama’s VP, he doesn’t win that.)

He’s just not a good politician and the idea that the Democratic Party in 2024 can only win with 82 year old Joe Biden is ridiculous. 

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1 minute ago, Ghost of LL said:

Harris not only takes away the primary attack against the Democratic candidate. She turns it squarely back on Trump. As bad as Biden looked against Trump, Trump would look even more confused, enfeebled, and incapable if put on a debate stage against Harris.

Exactly.

Every single Biden supporter will vote for Kamala. She is his VP!! She is part of his administration! She's literally 2nd in line. All the BIden stans who are mad will get over it very quickly if Kamala is called up.

Then you have a chance to energize young voters (who are uninterested and feel distant due to these two dinosaurs) energize the minority vote, and put women's rights front and center in this election. 

People are understandably very scared right now. The only action that can create a legitimate turning point in this election is bringing in Kamala off the bench. 

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I'm not saying Joe Biden is the best Dem to beat Trump.  I'm saying he's been the Dem choice for 4 years and it's too fucking late to change.

Y'all have the strategic instincts of my chihuahua.

And Donald Trump is not debating Kamala Harris, for fuck's sake.

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24 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

We risked this exact scenario when the Dems nominated Biden in 2020.  People were screaming that he would be not old but ancient should he win and run again.  Here we are.

My take on switching horses is that it is simply a non-starter.  It's never done.  It would not draw a net influx of voters to the Democrat's side.  It just wouldn't.  It would drive more people away than it would bring others in.

When Joe won in 2020 many of thought he would step down in 2022 and hand things off for Kamala.  
 

after today I’m glad he didn’t.  I think he has Don right where he wants him

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Posted
6 minutes ago, tchookem said:

Chance of Trump debating any Democratic candidate not named Joe Biden?

Zero.

I'm talking Kelvin Zero.

They're going to have to sneak into a rally and call him out like Beto did to Abbott.

We know Trump will not debate Biden again because it gave him all the momentum and a clear path to presidency. 

If Kamala gets called up and Trump doesn't debate her, that will affect him negatively. His age/mental issues all of a sudden become front and center. Dem politicians and media will dog walk him. Which will further energize Dem voters. 

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Key takeaways from Biden’s news conference: Insistence on staying in the race and flubbed names

 

Key take away is not that he answered questions in detail, but that he flubbed names.

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Overall, his presentation was a reminder that people are focused on him now with an almost clinical eye toward possible slip-ups and mistake

Including AP headline writers. Good job, liberal media.

https://apnews.com/article/biden-news-conference-reelection-age-0d9f4936484ff71295e2b088e5c525dd

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

We know Trump will not debate Biden again because it gave him all the momentum and a clear path to presidency. 

If Kamala gets called up and Trump doesn't debate her, that will affect him negatively. His age/mental issues all of a sudden become front and center. Dem politicians and media will dog walk him. Which will further energize Dem voters. 

I think that Trump not giving Biden another debate is a reason for replacing him.  Seems like it would be harder for him to dodge not given the circumstances. 

Posted
7 hours ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

I could have sworn it was going to be Rubio.  He’s the smart pick. 

He fails the test.

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Posted
43 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

Have we considered that Trump is just an agent of Satan?  

I've posted this several times over the years but Trump is definitely anti-Christ and the Christians love them some anti-Christ.

"Fuck Jesus! We love the anti-Christ!"

- American Christianity

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4 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

I've moved to rural Texas. I pass two small ranches that have Trump Flags regularly. I know these bloodsuckers exist. I'm not surprised. I'm stunned by the fact of it.

I've recently had a family member reveal their Trumpiness. The person thought she had a gotcha when she brought up Biden's debate performance.

Me: "I'd vote for a corpse before I'd vote that lying fascist. I never dreamed there would be an election of existential importance to the republic."

Her: "All politicians lie"

Idiot World. Malign Idiot World. I've got a DNA connection with it.

Verbatim the same conversation I’ve had with independents who went trumpy. 

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Posted
7 hours ago, chainsaw said:

If he stays in, he has to be on drugs 24/7.

If he stays in, I'M gonna need to be on drugs 24/7.

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Posted
7 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

It. Does. Not. Make. Them. Right.

Switching from Biden at this point is political suicide.  It absolutely 100% ices the vote for Trump.  I'll donate another $1K to Mobile Loaves and Fishes this year if the Dems switch and win.  Hold me to it, I'd be fucking thrilled.

if switching from Biden is political suicide, why is trunp trying to prevent the switch?

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The double standard is just too much for me. We cannot have an environment where one guy gets roasted for every single misstep and the other guy is just not getting held to any standard. It is such a joke. And yall wanna play right into that instead of saying no, fuck you guys, we're not doing that. It's like Michael Bolton on Office Space, saying "why should I change? He's the one who sucks."

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