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4 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Any respectable Republican doesn’t actively support him...

Man, a lot of the people that we work with/around on a daily basis are still full-throated Trumpaloos. It's hard to understand tbh. Like I said to you on this board a long time ago, he's not even good for the energy industry and he's terrible for the country. Fucking tax cuts I guess?

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Posted
Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Do the Republicans really want to bring personal conduct into the discussion? 

Republicans can do and say anything they want and democrats have to be perfect.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Republicans can do and say anything they want and democrats have to be perfect.

Jesus has forgiven Trump for any personal indiscretion, not that those indiscretions actually occurred. But he's forgiven nonetheless.

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3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The one think I dislike about Kamala is that she the youngest boomer by being born in Oct ‘64. Only 3 months younger and Gen X would finally have their own President.  Boomers had 4 of the last 5 

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

The proof lies in the number of former party leaders or prominent high-level former officials who are today vocal never-Trumpers or silent non-supporters.

The list includes W (fmr. GOP President), Romney (fmr. GOP presidential candidate), Pence & Cheney (fmr. GOP Vice Presidents), Paul Ryan (fmr. GOP Speaker of the House), Micheal Steele (fmr. chair of the RNC), and any number of former cabinet officials, senators, and representatives.

I'm glad they've turned. Michael Steele has been a vocal critic for a long time.

I will point out that most if not all of these GOPs surfed the Hate Wave knowingly. Former GOP voters who have abandoned the anti-republic party were mostly deceived into believing their votes went for actual values. Party functionaries and candidates cannot make that claim.

With the exception of Dick Cheney and Paul Ryan, those on the list have all, at one time or another, done something that I admire and respect. I don't know if any of them have recognized and disowned the hate engine publicly. Although not named, Liz Cheney performed admirably for the country after Jan. 6. Has she addressed the dark side of the GOP? I honestly don't know.

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Just now, Brisketexan said:

They've lost the plot.  It's all about making libs cry, that's it.  Well, and also, deciding that everything that you don't like about your life, our government, and our social systems broadly, are because of dirty brown people bussing tables, picking strawberries, and hanging sheetrock.  It's insane how supporting Trump doesn't just fail to advance their interests, but actually works against them.  It's all because:

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It's madness, but it's also human nature.  I am unhappy and hurt...therefore, I want to make everyone else unhappy and hurt.  And if that means setting off a bomb in a room that I'm in too, I'll fucking do it, because fuck you, libtards!

"Causing the common pain" as opposed to "advancing the common good."  That's the crossroads we're at as a society.  And we are currently at war with each other at that crossroads.  Time will tell which direction we go, but recent history has not been good for us.

Exactly it is pure hatred, put them under a MRI machine and their brain will closely match the hate addicted brain of any man from any random country.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I know people will and have said she ran a terrible primary campaign in 2020, but uh.....so did Joe Biden in 1988 and 2008.  Bush 41 also ran a meh campaign in 1980.  Reagan's do-nothing primary run in 1968.   Sometimes, no matter who you are, it is not your year when you first run.  

She now has the backing of the entire party + all of Joe's campaign team that are veterans of the 2 winnings Obama campaigns + Joe's winning 2020 campaign.  Something she didn't have in a very crowded primary field. 

The last part is the silver lining here.  Her primary campaigns had major staffing and organizational problems.  Here, she just inherits the Biden organization, which is actually pretty good.

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First event post-announcement - not a campaign event, but handling the NCAA Champions event for Biden.  And Texas Volleyball and Rowing are there! 

 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

The last part is the silver lining here.  Her primary campaigns had major staffing and organizational problems.  Here, she just inherits the Biden organization, which is actually pretty good.


wouldn’t be shocked to Obama and Clinton higher up showing up asap 

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Posted

They money was always there regardless of who the replacement was.  This is like when a losing coach needs firing and people be like "His buyout is $90M!!!!"

*Poof* the money appears.

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1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

They money was always there regardless of who the replacement was.  This is like when a losing coach needs firing and people be like "His buyout is $90M!!!!"

*Poof* the money appears.

Money to hit the portal for a middle of the country govenor too. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

What's the basis for this?  If it's purely due to delayed public endorsement, there's legitimate strategy involved in having the true power players (besides Biden, he always needed to be first) come out after the debate has generally been settled.

It's partly supposition based on the fact that they haven't endorsed Harris yet, but not just that. It's pretty clear from reporting that many if not most of the donors involved in the pressure campaign against Biden didn't want Harris to be the nominee.  I think Obama/Pelosi/Schumer shared the concerns those donors had about her (which were based on how they perceived her electability for race, gender, and policy reasons). Without longcatting this, the biggest Dem donors do not want the party to turn back into a pro-labor, pro-regulation party the way Biden has been pushing things (and Harris is likely expected to continue things in that direction) and I think Obama, Pelosi, and Schumer have a lot of stupid ideas about how to moderate to appeal to "moderate" American voters because their idea of a moderate American voter is largely based on the "moderate" multimillionaires they spend all of their time with.

 

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Posted
21 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

Fucking tax cuts I guess?

I'm quite concerned that his bullshit lie about not taxing tipped income will gain traction with hospitality workers. I've seen sooo many Trumpaloos trying to peddle that shit to our employees on their signed credit card receipts. It's disgusting.

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Posted
16 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Any respectable Republican doesn’t actively support him or has outright been critical, some vocally in the case of Romney, Dick and Liz. It is unfathomable what he’s done to the party. I’m hoping for Kamala to win (can’t believe I’m typing this), and praying that her future victory doesn’t come with a civil war between November 5th and January 20th. 

 

9 minutes ago, The Royal We said:

Man, a lot of the people that we work with/around on a daily basis are still full-throated Trumpaloos. It's hard to understand tbh. Like I said to you on this board a long time ago, he's not even good for the energy industry and he's terrible for the country. Fucking tax cuts I guess?

Are there respectable Republicans? The party functions similarly to the way we've criticized police departments.

There are bad apples (evidently even more than we think) doing terrible things. There are enablers who align with them and support them through inaction. So it is with GOPs who contribute to that party and vote for the current GOP/anti-republic party. Is that respectable? I'm having trouble seeing how.

I've recently reconciled with my sister after a long silence. It was a relief and a joy. At our last meeting with some of her family, she makes it clear that she is pro-Trump. I feel something like a soldier of the French Resistance who has learned his sister is helping the Nazis. This is very troubling to me. I'm still roiling with thoughts about it.

The GOP is about racism, enslaving women to their ability to have children, and imposing a religion that they've misnamed Christianity on the country. They want to ignore the global climate crisis and squeeze every last dime they can out of what may destroy us. The rich will be at fantastic estates in the mountains. The regular fools who voted them into power will blame the Socialist Dems. Idiot World.

I can't have anything to do with such wickedness. I've only used that word to describe Nixon (we'd be so much better off with him instead of Trump) and, for the last several years, all the malignancy of what has become the right.

Your party may perish. You may not have the choice to vote for actual conservative values. You haven't had that choice for a few decades anyway. Make sure you're not just pulling for the jersey. I can't imagine why a person worthy of any respect would continue to do so. I suppose being a fool would mitigate guilt and invite less scorn but still no respect.

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Posted
1 minute ago, RomaVicta said:

 

Are there respectable Republicans?


nope 

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Interesting take by Laura Loomer.  Somebody check my math, but by my count, the number of Presidents we've had who have given birth to one or more children is . . . zero.


faux abortion shaming isn’t the path 

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Posted (edited)
26 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Here, she just inherits the Biden organization, which is actually pretty good.

*was good, not lately

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Posted
7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Interesting take by Laura Loomer.  Somebody check my math, but by my count, the number of Presidents we've had who have given birth to one or more children is . . . zero.

Taft gave birth to quite a few burrito babies…

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Posted (edited)
17 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

It's partly supposition based on the fact that they haven't endorsed Harris yet, but not just that. It's pretty clear from reporting that many if not most of the donors involved in the pressure campaign against Biden didn't want Harris to be the nominee.  I think Obama/Pelosi/Schumer shared the concerns those donors had about her (which were based on how they perceived her electability for race, gender, and policy reasons). Without longcatting this, the biggest Dem donors do not want the party to turn back into a pro-labor, pro-regulation party the way Biden has been pushing things (and Harris is likely expected to continue things in that direction) and I think Obama, Pelosi, and Schumer have a lot of stupid ideas about how to moderate to appeal to "moderate" American voters because their idea of a moderate American voter is largely based on the "moderate" multimillionaires they spend all of their time with.

 

that's all fine and well, but Dems will never win the white house without black women.

 

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2 hours ago, Pancho said:

 


don’t wake up voters in DFW / AusSA center (fuck you new braunsfels) / Hou. !!!!!

 

 

 

1 minute ago, troph said:

that's all fine and well, but Dems will never win the white house without black women.

 

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Aqua Buddha said:

The Biden people have always insisted that he wins like 80-90% of the undecideds and I assume that applies to Harris as well.

Also, if she does well with Latina women, they get AZ.

Who will decide the election:

Latinos in Arizona and Nevada

Blacks in Atlanta and Detroit

Yutes in Philly and Milwaukee and Charlotte

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Posted
27 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

They money was always there regardless of who the replacement was.  This is like when a losing coach needs firing and people be like "His buyout is $90M!!!!"

*Poof* the money appears.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, horngrad03 said:

God Bless you both. My wife and I went thru it twice and it still stings.

We made our peace with it as best we could. My wife has dedicated herself to other peoples' children in serving as a Pre-K teacher. In this damn "State" where our leadetship diminshes her value more and more each day no less.

 

You guys are heroes in my book. 

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and you know, not all black experience is the same... just like not all brown experience is the same. queer, trans, gay, not all the same.

you got brown/black skin, you've been shit on. you're a woman, any kind of woman, you've been shit on.

she's got enough of the experience of being shit on to matter, besides, if she doesn't she'll get it in the next 4 months.

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