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6 hours ago, Tuco said:

That was when America was great.  When the government could just run completely racist program, deporting American citizens in some cases, and they didn't need to hide behind non-racist names.  They could just come out and call it "Operation Wetback", and no one would complain.  

Of  course that's what they called it. Do you like the sound of any of these options?:

Operation Greaser

Operation Beaner

Operation Spick and Span.

I thought not. I mean they had focus groups in the 50's people.

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4 hours ago, C-Man said:

I could easily see that. What are the rules with that? Now that's he's on the announced ticket is Trump stuck with him? If so, can't wait to hear the bellyaching by MAGA that we were allowed to change out Biden but they're stuck with the couch cushion-fucker.

Yeah, I don't know that they can get rid of Vance.  

He's a Peter Thiel creation.  Dude has been groomed from way back to be the billionaires' bitch boy and do whatever they want.  I guarantee you the whole deal was if Donald wanted the big money to back him he had to pick Vance.  Thiel and his ilk want a tool in place so once Trump croaks or they 25th his ass out of office, their man is in place to start running down the whole "end democracy, let the corpos completely take over" checklist.  

I don't know that any of the other big name candidates have the same support and/or are dumb enough to hitch the wagon to Drumpf at this point.  All fun and games when you're running against a semi-ambulatory corpse who you've had four years to shit on and blame for everything.  With Harris?  Not so much.  

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5 hours ago, tchookem said:

We need to stop using Reagan as some example to shame Republicans. He was as much a piece of shit as Trump. I don't know what Republican would actually make the point... maybe Eisenhower?

 

Chortles.

Eisenhower had the temerity to use a man servant to help him get dressed each day, including underwear.  Can you imagine what the GOP would think of that....today?

 

 

 

 

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Posted
9 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is so silly. This was all figured out weeks, if not months, ago. The very reason Harris made the most sense is specifically because she would have access to the war chest by law. They are grasping at smoke. 

There is a slight bit of wiggle room in the law.  But, the FEC regs seem to be concerned with donations earmarked by the donor (in writing) for a specific candidate and/or a specific election.  

First, I doubt that many donor are that specific in their donations.  Second, the way campaign finance is structured these days, PACs, etc., there's little way to make a donation to, say, Joe Biden, specifically, for November 2024.  Such donations that were that specific would likely have to be returned.

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6 hours ago, tchookem said:
6 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

We need to stop using Reagan as some example to shame Republicans. He was as much a piece of shit as Trump

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2 hours ago, skipmcgee said:

Of course they didn’t vet him.  Peter Thiel chose him and that was that.

The irony of an immigrant autistic homosexual New Zealander running shit for the GQP is rich.

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There is a slight bit of wiggle room in the law.  But, the FEC regs seem to be concerned with donations earmarked by the donor (in writing) for a specific candidate and/or a specific election.  
First, I doubt that many donor are that specific in their donations.  Second, the way campaign finance is structured these days, PACs, etc., there's little way to make a donation to, say, Joe Biden, specifically, for November 2024.  Such donations that were that specific would likely have to be returned.

If it’s announced that Kamala has to return some of the donations, the ensuing donation surge at ActBlue would make earlier this week look like child’s play.
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2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Trump is pretty much the dumbest president ever …..

Extreme low IQ, I’ll guess low 70’s (if he can read) 

And, assuming he is referring to Venezuelans seeking political asylum in the US, they are very likely staunch anti-communists akin to Cubans and Eastern Bloc immigrants, and, if naturalized, highly likely to vote for him.

Fucking moron.

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

And, assuming he is referring to Venezuelans seeking political asylum in the US, they are very likely staunch anti-communists akin to Cubans and Eastern Bloc immigrants, and, if naturalized, highly likely to vote for him.

Fucking moron.

A lot of ifs in there.  Not a lot of ifs in hating brown makes white love me. 

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6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The irony of an immigrant autistic homosexual New Zealander running shit for the GQP is rich.

The alt-right/VC/Apartheid South African clique is a disturbing phenomenon

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Completely random thought here.  Reading Thiel's bio, there's a statement that he believes democracy is inconsistent with freedom.

Apart from what elite assholes like Thiel think constitutes freedom (to make more money without taxation), and what gun-toting dipshits think constitutes freedumb, it occurs to me that we have actually pretty well maximized freedom here.  Such that the various freedoms are now running into conflict with each other.

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1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

I’m sure he’s only talking about the non voting immigrants …

 

Tuberville calling another human being garbage is peak lack of self awareness.

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5 hours ago, C-Man said:

I could easily see that. What are the rules with that? Now that's he's on the announced ticket is Trump stuck with him? If so, can't wait to hear the bellyaching by MAGA that we were allowed to change out Biden but they're stuck with the couch cushion-fucker.

Vance has to quit. He can’t be fired. It’s happened before. Eagleton withdrew like a week after the convention in 72, with much coercion from McGovern 

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7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Vance has to quit. He can’t be fired. It’s happened before. Eagleton withdrew like a week after the convention in 72, with much coercion from McGovern 

Good info. I wondered if this had occurred in modern history.

If trump told Vance to quit, within the hour Vance would be telling us about a need to care for his family but respect their privacy by not asking why. 

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14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Vote.org says it got a 700% spike in new registrations in the 2 days after Biden dropped out, mostly voters under 34. Higher spike than after Taylor Swift’s instagram post 

Taylor Swift wraps up her European tour in three weeks. Just in time to to push a voter registration blitz and keep the momentum going.

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I was watching Morning Joe this morning and one of the reporters was interviewing a group of Trump supporters about Kamala. It was the same stuff about how ignorant she is and yada, yada. But the conspiracy theories started to come out about how possibly she knew all about Biden's health and that possibly this was all calculated about when she would come in. It's going to get real ugly, real ugly.  Meanwhile Fat Poopy Pants is out there playing golf.

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19 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

I was watching Morning Joe this morning and one of the reporters was interviewing a group of Trump supporters about Kamala. It was the same stuff about how ignorant she is and yada, yada. But the conspiracy theories started to come out about how possibly she knew all about Biden's health and that possibly this was all calculated about when she would come in. It's going to get real ugly, real ugly.  Meanwhile Fat Poopy Pants is out there playing golf.

Doesn't that mean she's smart and Machiavellian?

Then again, these are the same people that thought Biden was an imbecile while also being at the top of an international crime family.

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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Trump is pretty much the dumbest president ever …..

Extreme low IQ, I’ll guess low 70’s (if he can read) 

This...this has to be correct.  My god.

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29 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

I was watching Morning Joe this morning and one of the reporters was interviewing a group of Trump supporters about Kamala. It was the same stuff about how ignorant she is and yada, yada. But the conspiracy theories started to come out about how possibly she knew all about Biden's health and that possibly this was all calculated about when she would come in. It's going to get real ugly, real ugly.  Meanwhile Fat Poopy Pants is out there playing golf.

I saw that segment.  Their average BMI was about 100.

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34 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

I was watching Morning Joe this morning and one of the reporters was interviewing a group of Trump supporters about Kamala. It was the same stuff about how ignorant she is and yada, yada. But the conspiracy theories started to come out about how possibly she knew all about Biden's health and that possibly this was all calculated about when she would come in. It's going to get real ugly, real ugly.  Meanwhile Fat Poopy Pants is out there playing golf.

LOL that's the best they've got? 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

New day, new angle:

 

 

 

 

The least sympathetic person in America now. No one cares but your MAGAs. The guy was one of your own and you don't give two shits to stop people like him from getting access to the gun that almost killed you. 

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They're also going to go all in on "too liberal" as if her opponent is trying to turn America into Gilead.  How come it's never that Trump is "too conservative???" 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Vance has to quit. He can’t be fired. It’s happened before. Eagleton withdrew like a week after the convention in 72, with much coercion from McGovern 

What if Vance fell out of window? Asking for Kremlin…

I kid! 

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Posted (edited)

I’m still all in on Beshear. Young, AG background so Harris will like that, 2 term governor who is term limited, can speak to WWC voters, they’ve already worked together.

Coop is good too. Also term limited, won twice in a purple state in Trump years

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Posted
Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Seems to be the favorite among progressives…

Which is kind of funny that he’s a favorite among progressives despite being a governor of one of the reddest states in the country. But I get it - dude stands for his beliefs. That’s what I like about him 

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7 hours ago, TexLonghorn said:

I mean, kids these days sure love their memories of the freaking Eisenhower years.  Thanks for the story, grandpa.

I think that would be like referring to McKinley when I was  kid. On point.

57 minutes ago, Brandywine said:

I was watching Morning Joe this morning and one of the reporters was interviewing a group of Trump supporters about Kamala. It was the same stuff about how ignorant she is and yada, yada. But the conspiracy theories started to come out about how possibly she knew all about Biden's health and that possibly this was all calculated about when she would come in. It's going to get real ugly, real ugly.  Meanwhile Fat Poopy Pants is out there playing golf.

Ugly in the sense of watching a scorpion sting itself to death.

 

20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

They're also going to go all in on "too liberal" as if her opponent is trying to turn America into Gilead.  How come it's never that Trump is "too conservative???" 

Excellent point. Just as someone made a good point about asking Trump to define socialism, somebody should start sorting out the word conservative and seeing how it even applies.

The template has two ends of the spectrum for measuring political inclination. The TV journalists don't see that their politicometer isn't measuirng the right thing. Their laziness leads them to using words whose meaning has been completely lost.

I've chosen anti-republic versus pro-republic. It's not catching on. I'm no Don Draper, I suppose.

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1 hour ago, royiv said:

Tuberville calling another human being garbage is peak lack of self awareness.

well, it's Tommy Tuberville, so year. Every accusation, etc. 

14 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

 

My immediate knee-jerk response to members of the left trying to poison any well immediately is A) Fuck you and B) Oh, well then Shapiro is probaby the best choice. 

 

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1 minute ago, UncleSonny said:

Someone on tv is going to call her “uppity” by the end of the week. 

They are tying their own noose. Please, please, please keep it up for the next 3 months. 

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2 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

Someone on tv is going to call her “uppity” by the end of the week. 

We are almost at the n word! 

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9 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

 

Agree with this premise and it's not worth the risk with Shapiro. 

I hope Kamala's team is very patient with selecting and announcing the VP pick. Trump is gonna dump Vance. They have a legitimate built-in excuse, as they selected couch fucker against a Biden-Harris ticket. They need to "go in another direction" with Kamala at the top of the ticket. The longer Kamala waits, the longer Trump has to deal with all the negative Vance press and Kamala rising in the polls. Force them to make the new VP move first. 

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

Which is kind of funny that he’s a favorite among progressives despite being a governor of one of the reddest states in the country. 

If you're just looking at the electoral map, this seems like a ding against him.  I think it's doubtful Beshear gets Harris Kentucky, which leads to the question of whether his regional appeal is enough to win any of the rust belt states.  

By comparison on this point, Cooper arguably gives Harris at least the possibility of picking up a purplish North Carolina (though I'm not sure I give that better than a 50% chance).

The main knock against Shapiro, as highlighted in the New Republic article, is his position on the Israel/Palestine war (although the article seems to imply that any Jewish VP pick is risky).  I understand the need for Harris to make a safe pick, but is this really the single issue that can decide the presidential election?  Are those voters supporting Palestine so entrenched that they think a Trump/Vance administration is going to do them any more favors than Harris/Shapiro?  

I'm not saying this as someone who thinks that Shapiro is the No. 1 pick.  But I question the New Republic's writer who believes a Shapiro VP pick could be fatal to Harris's chances of winning.

Short version:  What the fuck do I know?

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1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Agree with this premise and it's not worth the risk with Shapiro. 

I hope Kamala's team is very patient with selecting and announcing the VP pick. Trump is gonna dump Vance. They have a legitimate built-in excuse, as they selected couch fucker against a Biden-Harris ticket. They need to "go in another direction" with Kamala at the top of the ticket. The longer Kamala waits, the longer Trump has to deal with all the negative Vance press and Kamala rising in the polls. Force them to make the new VP move first. 

You really think Trump can admit he made a mistake?



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