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10 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yep. We have the moral high ground. Do not concede it with a scandal, it will be twisted into something really bad for Dems 

Edit; because as we all know in politics, once you have to explain it, you’ve already lost the issue 

Sounds like something a couch fucker would say

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2 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

Communications upgrade cannot be overstated.

Good NBC article today on the transition from Biden to Harris. The communications from The campaign back this up:

“This is, let’s take Trump down once and for all," said a person with close knowledge of the process around Harris. This person, like others in this story, requested anonymity to speak candidly.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Just wanted to say “co-sign” on Bozo’s admiration for Kathryn Hahn. I dig her very, very much.

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 Article if you want to read it. Some good stuff 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/harris-campaign-big-new-hires-sprint-election-day-rcna164383

She has already struck a different tone than Biden both on the stump and in ads. While Biden framed November as a fight for democracy, Harris is already talking about it in terms of freedom. Several Harris aides cast it as the same pillars of messaging, but with a different messenger. 

She is focusing on issues Biden hadn’t, according to one person close to Harris, including that children should not live in poverty and that there should be economic opportunities to get ahead, not just get by. Two people close to Harris’ strategy said the vice president is also focusing more on “freedom” instead of “democracy.” Freedom is meant to encompass a spectrum of issues: security, reproductive rights, voting and living one’s life. 

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No big deal

 

 

As Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro steps into the limelight as a potential running mate for Vice President Kamala Harris, his record on handling sexual harassment claims against his aides and political allies is coming under tighter scrutiny. This week, the National Women's Defense League issued a statement warning that Shapiro, whose administration paid $295,000 in taxpayer money to settle a female government employee's complaint against a former aide, had enabled sexual harassment and reflected his office's "failures."

In the May 2023 complaint against former Secretary of Legislative Affairs Mike Vereb, who was accused of making crude and sexually charged remarks, the female employee accused Shapiro's office of pushing her out of a job for coming forward. After the settlement and ensuing non-disclosure agreement, Vereb remained in Shapiro's cabinet until September of that year, when he abruptly resigned as news outlets obtained the public records and prepared to report on the complaint that was filed with the Pennsylvania Human Relations Commission.

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14 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Just wanted to say “co-sign” on Bozo’s admiration for Kathryn Hahn. I dig her very, very much.

I just googled her, and her titties look pretty good for 50-something

 

 

(actually I googled "Kathryn Hahn nude")

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No glad handing in Houston after her event the other day. She made her speech and left. I'm wondering if that was as a result of Trump's attack or just her style. Very different from Biden. 

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1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

No glad handing in Houston after her event the other day. She made her speech and left. I'm wondering if that was as a result of Trump's attack or just her style. Very different from Biden. 

After the funeral? She had a fundraiser Wednesday night in Houston after her sorority event 

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

After the funeral? She had a fundraiser Wednesday night in Houston after her sorority event 

I'm referring to the fundraising event. 

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26 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


I’ll start slow. Because until 5 minutes ago you thought he won by half a point. 
 

1. Young (We’re Never Going Back)

2. 61% approval rating in Pennsylvania

3. Smart and well spoken and will rip JD Vance to shreds

4.  Electoral college

5. Centrist politics; good counter balance to attacks on Kamala and good fit for Pennsylvania 

Re: The bolded part: Stop acting like a little bitch because I'm skeptical of your boy. I just got his margin of victory mixed up in my head with someone else. Calm down.

That said, I don't necessarily disagree with anything you said there, however I'm wary/skeptical of:

  1. His ability to actually deliver Pennsylvania
  2. Some of his educational positions, such as his dogshit, GOP-aligned school voucher support (not all of his positions here are bad, he has some good ones too)
  3. His extremely authoritarian response to legal protests
  4. Support for the death penalty
  5. Support for even more draconian penalties for drug-related crime (even possession of small amount of marijuana)

I'm not sure he plays well outside of Pennsylvania and I'm skeptical he can even deliver that. And that's not even mentioning the other stuff being discussed in this thread.

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1 minute ago, G650 said:

He supports the death penalty? That's not a good look.

That doesn’t sound right. I thought he called on the legislature to abolish it and said he wouldn’t sign any death warrants as governors 

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10 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

No glad handing in Houston after her event the other day. She made her speech and left. I'm wondering if that was as a result of Trump's attack or just her style. Very different from Biden. 

They were trying to free prisoners of Russia, maybe she had stuff related to that

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1 minute ago, Firemans4Horn said:

 

2 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

On second look, this appears to have changed. Striking it out of my original post.

I understand this is the internet and you seem to only care about how many points you can score, but he did support the death penalty as AG, prior to taking the governorship. To his credit, his position has since changed, hence my retraction.

You're still being a little bitch.

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11 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

She can unhinge her jaw like a snake

Is this a good thing, really? I mean, has any of you ever thought "if only..." Perhaps I'm self owning.

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Just now, Brian Fantana said:

You realize these things aren't mutually exclusive, right? Please tell me you realize that.


just make a shorter list:

 

1. I disagree with his views on Israel and Palestine. 
 

that’s fine.  But let’s not just start throwing a bunch of shit against the wall and hoping it sticks. 

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9 minutes ago, Js1 said:

That doesn’t sound right. I thought he called on the legislature to abolish it and said he wouldn’t sign any death warrants as governors 

Yeah I was thinking the same. Wasn't totally sure though.

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Just now, Firemans4Horn said:


just make a shorter list:

 

1. I disagree with his views on Israel and Palestine. 
 

that’s fine.  But let’s not just start throwing a bunch of shit against the wall and hoping it sticks. 

Oh so this is why you're pissed off. Got it.

Posted
5 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:


Projecting much?

 

Fantana is going to turn this thread to shit like he did the Israel thread.  
 

instantly triggered name calling. 

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14 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Fantana is going to turn this thread to shit like he did the Israel thread.  
 

instantly triggered name calling. 

Nah I'm dropping the argument, but in my defense all I did was ask what he thought was great about Shapiro. Homeboy then immediately implied I was stupid because I mixed up a margin of victory in my head, despite the fact that I admitted I was wrong well before he made the post, and I hadn't insulted anyone at all. Maybe I shouldn't clap back, but that's just not how I'm programmed.

But yeah, it's my fault, I guess.

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

I would prefer a candidate for VP that people can rally around that won't instantly piss off the purity testing left. Walz or Beshear fit the bill. Shapiro's state is the only thing I like from him. He has the most possible negatives. Walz and Beshear's only negatives are they don't have enough name recognition and their states aren't that key to winning. That said, I think both could greatly help with reaching out to the middle in the Rust Belt. Walz is a midwest guy, hell he's the stereotype. Beshear can get you red state people. I also think Beshear gives you something that is a perfect antidote to people who white people who might be leery about voting for a black woman. He is representation. He's a young, white male. He has the perfect suburban looking family. People can see themselves in a guy like him. Just that's a form of racial bias but I think he and his family would play really well with that demo. I think Walz could charm anyone over to his side with his Minnesota attitude. He feels like the living embodiment of Tommy Callahan Sr from Tommy Boy. 

My preference would be Walz>Beshear>>>>>>>>Shapiro. 

Yeah this says it pretty well, I think. Shapiro being picked certainly won't stop me from voting for Harris, but I would much prefer Walz or Beshear.

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I would prefer a candidate for VP that people can rally around that won't instantly piss off the purity testing left. Walz or Beshear fit the bill. Shapiro's state is the only thing I like from him. He has the most possible negatives. Walz and Beshear's only negatives are they don't have enough name recognition and their states aren't that key to winning. That said, I think both could greatly help with reaching out to the middle in the Rust Belt. Walz is a midwest guy, hell he's the stereotype. Beshear can get you red state people. I also think Beshear gives you something that is a perfect antidote to people who white people who might be leery about voting for a black woman. He is representation. He's a young, white male. He has the perfect suburban looking family. People can see themselves in a guy like him. Just that's a form of racial bias but I think he and his family would play really well with that demo. I think Walz could charm anyone over to his side with his Minnesota attitude. He feels like the living embodiment of Tommy Callahan Sr from Tommy Boy. 
My preference would be Walz>Beshear>>>>>>>>Shapiro. 

You think the purity testing progressive maximalists wouldn’t magically find a dozen reasons to shit all over Walz or Beshears. That’s adorable.
Anyone but a resurrected Hugo Chavez is a fascist to them.
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I keep going back and forth between Walz and Beshear for who I think is the best option. The guy I like more (Walz) vs the guy who might give Harris the best boost (Beshear) are basically tied for first in my book.

A distant third is Kelly (boring, might not give her much unless the campaign knows something we don't know), and fourth is Shapiro.

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:


You think the purity testing progressive maximalists wouldn’t magically find a dozen reasons to shit all over Walz or Beshears. That’s adorable.
Anyone but a resurrected Hugo Chavez is a fascist to them.

Well sure. But don’t give it to them on a silver platter. 300k of taxpayer money and an NDA. For telling a subordinate you want to bend her over a desk and who knows what else. And keeping the prick on the payroll for a year until the press gets hold of it. 
 

JFC

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It's also worth noting that either Walz or Beshear or both most likely have opinions regarding Israel/Palestine that I would personally find shitty, but it is effectively a non-issue for me when it comes to the election. Pretty much any person that would be on the ticket is going to have the default NPC American politician position, and anyone in the orbit of Trump's GOP would be much worse, in any case.

I'm not, and never have been interested in purity tests, only who gives the best +EV to beat Trump. I think Shapiro is too risky of a candidate compared to the others.

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