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2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Okay, I'll say it.

All this pronouncing Trump dead in the water makes me a little nervous.

I can't even point to exactly why.  Maybe it's because it sounds too much like 2016?  Maybe I'm afraid that public overconfidence from Dems might lead to some folks staying home, thinking it's in the bag?

I just don't think it's in the bag.  Some of this bump is likely to be temporary and there is a long way to go, and potentially a lot of fuckery between the polls now and the voting booths.

I'm still concerned, dudes.

 

I don't think anyone is overconfident about anything. I think people are going for the jugular. It's not a business is taken care of narrative it's a snuff out evil until it goes away narrative. 

Trump being dead in the water is obvious. Have you seen him? He's completely flailing and unhinged. He's got supporters jumping ship like rats from a sinking vessel. That doesn't mean we have stopped firing on the ship, make sure the ship goes down and there are no rafts. 

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Nobody's taking this lightly or truly thinks this is "in the bag." The EC by itself guarantees fuckery will still be in effect. But the undeniable facts at this point is that the Dems are killing it organizationally, they have a clear message for the American people, and their ticket is a combination of inspirational, aspirational, and relatable people. 

Ain't nobody going to take Trump and the MAGAts lightly until he's room temperature.

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4 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Okay, I'll say it.

All this pronouncing Trump dead in the water makes me a little nervous.

I can't even point to exactly why.  Maybe it's because it sounds too much like 2016?  Maybe I'm afraid that public overconfidence from Dems might lead to some folks staying home, thinking it's in the bag?

I just don't think it's in the bag.  Some of this bump is likely to be temporary and there is a long way to go, and potentially a lot of fuckery between the polls now and the voting booths.

I'm still concerned, dudes.

 

Some optimism for you: In 2016 people thought Hillary would win because it was impossible for someone like Trump to win. It just didn't happen. There were too many gaffs, too many scandals. But people weren't generally jazzed or enthusiastic about voting for Hillary. I don't think you see that sort of voter apathy again. People now know Trump can win if they don't vote. And people want to vote for Kamala. 

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3 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Okay, I'll say it.

All this pronouncing Trump dead in the water makes me a little nervous.

I can't even point to exactly why.  Maybe it's because it sounds too much like 2016?  Maybe I'm afraid that public overconfidence from Dems might lead to some folks staying home, thinking it's in the bag?

I just don't think it's in the bag.  Some of this bump is likely to be temporary and there is a long way to go, and potentially a lot of fuckery between the polls now and the voting booths.

I'm still concerned, dudes.

 

The excitement for Harris/Walz dwarfs what the 2016 ticket had.  I voted 3rd party in 2016, this time I'm donating to the POTUS candidates and volunteering at a Harris phone bank.  

And Trump 2024 is an old, miserable fuck. 

But as Biff said, the turnout has to be there. 

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11 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Yeah, this is wrong. 

I assume the quotation marks is what republicans are saying. 

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Just now, immamac said:

Trump being dead in the water is obvious. Have you seen him? He's completely flailing and unhinged. He's got supporters jumping ship like rats from a sinking vessel. That doesn't mean we have stopped firing on the ship, make sure the ship goes down and there are no rafts. 

Yeah, but he's been flailing and unhinged the whole time.  He definitely spiraling on a personal level, but I don't think that means he can't win.  He's still capable of pressing the right buttons on camera, as we saw in the debate.

I guess my main concern is this: I've said all along that I believe Trump still has a silent voting bloc that does not show up in the polls, but will show up on election day, again.  And I just don't trust young liberals to show up at the same level.  I think this election may be as simple as voter turnout, and there are things Republicans can and will do to interfere with that, compounding the natural laxness of a couple of generations behind us.

This should be a W.  But I just can't feel too good about it yet.  Trump is cagey and willing to fight dirty, and Democrats have blown layups before.

 

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17 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Okay, I'll say it.

All this pronouncing Trump dead in the water makes me a little nervous.

I can't even point to exactly why.  Maybe it's because it sounds too much like 2016?  Maybe I'm afraid that public overconfidence from Dems might lead to some folks staying home, thinking it's in the bag?

I just don't think it's in the bag.  Some of this bump is likely to be temporary and there is a long way to go, and potentially a lot of fuckery between the polls now and the voting booths.

I'm still concerned, dudes.

 

Thank you satya

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6 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Yeah, but he's been flailing and unhinged the whole time.  He definitely spiraling on a personal level, but I don't think that means he can't win.  He's still capable of pressing the right buttons on camera, as we saw in the debate.

I guess my main concern is this: I've said all along that I believe Trump still has a silent voting bloc that does not show up in the polls, but will show up on election day, again.  And I just don't trust young liberals to show up at the same level.  I think this election may be as simple as voter turnout, and there are things Republicans can and will do to interfere with that, compounding the natural laxness of a couple of generations behind us.

This should be a W.  But I just can't feel too good about it yet.  Trump is cagey and willing to fight dirty, and Democrats have blown layups before.

 

You haven't watched the last 2 have you? He's never done anything this spectacularly bad or unhinged. It's complete meltdown mode. 

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7 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Yeah, but he's been flailing and unhinged the whole time.  He definitely spiraling on a personal level, but I don't think that means he can't win.  He's still capable of pressing the right buttons on camera, as we saw in the debate.

I guess my main concern is this: I've said all along that I believe Trump still has a silent voting bloc that does not show up in the polls, but will show up on election day, again.  And I just don't trust young liberals to show up at the same level.  I think this election may be as simple as voter turnout, and there are things Republicans can and will do to interfere with that, compounding the natural laxness of a couple of generations behind us.

This should be a W.  But I just can't feel too good about it yet.  Trump is cagey and willing to fight dirty, and Democrats have blown layups before.

 

As a long-standing member of The Ledge, I get the feeling.  It seems like nothing that fat piece of shit does has consequences.  But I'm hopeful his charmed run is coming to a beautiful crashing end. 

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22 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

Absolutely. Millions will still vote for him, and with the EC anything can happen. So far, it appears that Harris and Walz understand this and are saying this over and over. Keep the pressure on until the day after the election. Run through the finish line. 

People are excited to vote for this ticket. I’ll probably take both of my daughters with me when I go. 

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24 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Okay, I'll say it.

All this pronouncing Trump dead in the water makes me a little nervous.

I can't even point to exactly why.  Maybe it's because it sounds too much like 2016?  Maybe I'm afraid that public overconfidence from Dems might lead to some folks staying home, thinking it's in the bag?

I just don't think it's in the bag.  Some of this bump is likely to be temporary and there is a long way to go, and potentially a lot of fuckery between the polls now and the voting booths.

I'm still concerned, dudes.

 

I am not going to take anything for granted. Keep playing until the whistle. This isn't a marathon now. It's a fucking sprint to November. Tick tock. Run the damn ball and keep running it up. Be a happy warrior. Joy and humor on the march.

Their weird and stupid ways are catching them. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, NAVY said:

For some reason I’m uncomfortable with these nautical references. 
 

 

Well shiver me timbers

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Posted (edited)
12 hours ago, Blotto said:

By the way its been an hour since the last speaker in Bozeman. they are all just sitting there with EZ listening music in the background. They are now playing Pavarotti (I think). 

In Montana

UTC beat me to it

 

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Posted
20 minutes ago, immamac said:

You haven't watched the last 2 have you? He's never done anything this spectacularly bad or unhinged. It's complete meltdown mode. 

It’s 2016 PTSD. Except the Dems are running 2 extremely likeable and exciting candidates and not Hillary and boring white guy 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

People, this is world class humble bragging right here. Well done, sir.

Well, to be fair, it's for business. And it's for bulldozers and not fancy planes.

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A black swan type event is the only reason I would personally worry. Haven't felt this type of Dem excitement since 2008. 16 years ago when Obama popped up on the scene.

Trump has lost his fast ball if you've watched him lately. Even his crowds seem bored half the time.

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Just now, Js1 said:

I want 2008 level. With AZ and GA blue and then a surprise, like FL or Texas barely flips but just enough, like Indiana did. All the incumbent Senate Dems win and one of Allred or DMP gets dragged across the finish line (whichever flips)

My gut is excitement is high and people can taste it, voters and the campaign. I don't see anyone taking their foot off the gas

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1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

The Harris campaign will not get cocky. I'm not worried about them taking their foot off the gas at any point. 

But the goal should be to BLOW HIM OUT. That's why all that talk of needing to nominate Shapiro because he gets you a 1% bump in PA pissed me off. 

Don't just win. Win big. Win everywhere. Show everyone in this country that we are officially done with Donald Trump. Sneaking by with a close victory is not enough. 

This. A blowout won't undo the last 8 years, and we're stuck with the crazies...but it will be a huge step towards denouncing this crap and making MAGA synonymous with losers. The quieter Trump supporters will pretend they never voted for him to maintain some dignity.

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I want 2008 level. With AZ and GA blue and then a surprise, like FL or Texas barely flips but just enough, like Indiana did. All the incumbent Senate Dems win and one of Allred or DMP gets dragged across the finish line (whichever flips)

It CAN happen. 

Trump is not magically going to course correct here. He is flailing and will continue to flail. It will be very disheartening to his voters. Break their wills. 

 

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I think the more likeable celebs will be activated in October. And Swift doesn’t even need to appear or even directly endorse, she could simply say something like “girls can do anything, even be president, isn’t that cool?” They’ll get the message. Whatever it takes, we need a blowout, and for the youths to finally get off their ass and save us in November.

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3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

It CAN happen. 

Trump is not magically going to course correct here. He is flailing and will continue to flail. It will be very disheartening to his voters. Break their wills. 

 

This. It feels like where Harris jumps in, enthusiasm jumps, polls start showing her leading in August and then after Labor Day, she takes off when people start paying attention. 

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2 minutes ago, horncyclist said:

Swift will endorse in a big way. I could see her campaigning or making a convention appearance.

Her last European stop is the 20th so I don’t think she makes it for the convention. But yes, I could see an October rally 

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23 minutes ago, Js1 said:

It’s 2016 PTSD. Except the Dems are running 2 extremely likeable and exciting candidates and not Hillary and boring white guy 

I don’t even remember Hillary’s vp

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10 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I think the more likeable celebs will be activated in October. And Swift doesn’t even need to appear or even directly endorse, she could simply say something like “girls can do anything, even be president, isn’t that cool?” They’ll get the message. Whatever it takes, we need a blowout, and for the youths to finally get off their ass and save us in November.

Honestly, I hope she keeps it relatively "vague" like this. Her security detail is probably more legit that the Secret Service these days, but attending a rally or putting out an official statement puts her in the cross hairs of these sad fucking losers even more so than she is already.

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2 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Honestly, I hope she keeps it relatively "vague" like this. Her security detail is probably more legit that the Secret Service these days, but attending a rally or putting out an official statement puts her in the cross hairs of these sad fucking losers even more so than she is already.

As we just saw in Vienna 

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7 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Her last European stop is the 20th so I don’t think she makes it for the convention. But yes, I could see an October rally 

She came back over night from Japan for the Super Bowl so the tour isn’t an obstacle. Also could appear remotely. I just don’t see any point in her holding back given the need to mobilize people early and drive voter registration before deadlines. And she clearly doesn’t have a Maggots are Swifties too mentality. 
 

Is that Swifties for Kamala campaign organized? That’s a really good sign if so.

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