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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Bullshit.

He's a Terminator of narcissistic idiocy; he can't and won't stop until he's been melted down into oblivion.

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7 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Not sure if he’ll run but he’ll decide who the nominee is. They’re tied to him until he dies. 

 

This.  It will be a real-life Apprentice series with Cruz, etc all trekking to Mar-A-Lago and seeing who can kiss Trump's ass the best to get the nod.   There will be contests, "teams", "challenges", and the like.   

Trump will have his scientists working on how to best monetize the process.

 

 

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Some highlights from Liz Cheney's fantastic speech earlier today:

"I was a Republican even before Donald Trump started spray-tanning".

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"Vice President Harris is standing in the breach at a critical moment in our nation's history. She's working to unite reasonable people from all across the plitical spectrum. Vice President Harris has dedicated her life to public service. I know that she loves our country and I know she'll be a president for all Americans. As a Conservative, as a patriot, as a mother, as someone who reveres our Constitution, I'm honored to join her in this urgent cause".

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"In the United States of America, violence does not and must never determine who rules us. Voters do."

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“... our republic faces a threat unlike any we have faced before - a former president who attempted to stay in power by unraveling the foundations of our republic, by refusing to accept the lawful results confirmed by dozens of courts of the 2020 election,” she said. “We cannot turn away from this truth. In this election, putting patriotism ahead of partisanship is not an aspiration. It is our duty.”

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 “I don’t care if you are a Democrat or a Republican or an independent. That is depravity, and we must never become numb to it. Any person who would do these things can never be trusted with power again.”

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“What January 6th shows us is that there is not an ounce, not an ounce of compassion in Donald Trump. He is petty, he is vindictive, and he is cruel. And Donald Trump is not fit to lead this good and great nation.” 

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"In this election a broad coalition has come together to support Vice President Kamala Harris. Now, we may disagree on some things, but we are bound together by the one thing that matters to us as Americans more than any other, and that's our duty to our Constitution and our belief in the miracle and the blessing of this incredible nation. We have a shared commitment, a shared commitment as Americans to ensure that future generations live in a nation where power is transferred peacefully, where our leaders are men and women of good faith, and where our public servants set aside partisan battles to do what's right for this country.  So today I ask all of you here, and everyone listening across this great country to join us. I ask you to meet this moment. I ask you to stand in truth to reject the depraved cruelty of Donald Trump, and I ask you instead to help us elect Kamala Harris for President".

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Like Brisket, I have thought for a while that Trump will continue to run and own the GOP until he dies as well. 

I'm not so sure anymore. Look, his rallies really are becoming pathetic. He's in half empty arenas and people are consistently walking out in every city. You can hear a pin drop in those rooms as he drones on with insane, boring bullshit. And these people are the hardcore Trump lovers!

Republicans are good with 4 years of Trump in office. They are gonna groan at the idea of 4 more years of Trump whining and screaming and running for President again. It will take a while for MAGAts to wean off Trump's teat, but their will be a noticeable lack of enthusiasm from R voters to go through this shit again. 

Or so I hope. 

 

12 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Like Brisket, I have thought for a while that Trump will continue to run and own the GOP until he dies as well. 

I'm not so sure anymore. Look, his rallies really are becoming pathetic. He's in half empty arenas and people are consistently walking out in every city. You can hear a pin drop in those rooms as he drones on with insane, boring bullshit. And these people are the hardcore Trump lovers!

Republicans are good with 4 years of Trump in office. They are gonna groan at the idea of 4 more years of Trump whining and screaming and running for President again. It will take a while for MAGAts to wean off Trump's teat, but their will be a noticeable lack of enthusiasm from R voters to go through this shit again. 

Or so I hope. 

 

Patton was clearly wrong about 45% of Americans

 

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3 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

 

 

Well shit. Anybody want to buy a truckload of toilet paper?

 

 

I mean it makes sense. He’s sec of transportation. I doubt the trucking industry and rail lines were excited about having their loads decrease by 75% indefinitely. 

Trump voters have been married to him for 8 or 9 years.  They’re not out there considering divorce seriously just yet, but they’re for sure really fucking bored, unenthused, and tired.

1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I mean it makes sense. He’s sec of transportation. I doubt the trucking industry and rail lines were excited about having their loads decrease by 75% indefinitely. 

Yes, he's just doing his job. But I'm happy he's good at it. 

 

19 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Like Brisket, I have thought for a while that Trump will continue to run and own the GOP until he dies as well. 

I'm not so sure anymore. Look, his rallies really are becoming pathetic. He's in half empty arenas and people are consistently walking out in every city. You can hear a pin drop in those rooms as he drones on with insane, boring bullshit. And these people are the hardcore Trump lovers!

Republicans are good with 4 years of Trump in office. They are gonna groan at the idea of 4 more years of Trump whining and screaming and running for President again. It will take a while for MAGAts to wean off Trump's teat, but their will be a noticeable lack of enthusiasm from R voters to go through this shit again. 

Or so I hope. 

 

Agreed. His support from his own party is not nearly as rock solid as it has been. The Republican primary was pretty damning for him but it seemed to be glossed over by just about every outlet. He’s not fundraising at nearly the pace he was in 2020–when he lost. I just don’t think the enthusiasm is going to be there for an 82 year old, two-time loser in 2028. 

1 minute ago, SizzleChest said:

Trump voters have been married to him for 8 or 9 years.  They’re not out there considering divorce seriously just yet, but they’re for sure really fucking bored, unenthused, and tired.

I think a lot of it will depend on how the election goes.  If they pick up the Senate and stay close in the House, they may continue with the nonsense.  But if they don't win the Senate and lose a bunch of seats in the House, there will need to be a change.   Losing is the biggest sin in politics.  

3 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

Agreed. His support from his own party is not nearly as rock solid as it has been. The Republican primary was pretty damning for him but it seemed to be glossed over by just about every outlet. He’s not fundraising at nearly the pace he was in 2020–when he lost. I just don’t think the enthusiasm is going to be there for an 82 year old, two-time loser in 2028. 

We heard so much about Haley getting 25% in primaries. I’m interested to see how much support he truly loses from ‘20. 

The only way I can imagine Trump not running in 2028 is if he is dead. Because unless the GOP primary voter is somehow changed over the next few years they are going to keep heading down the road to crazyville. 

Sensible, credible, thoughtful people are becoming rare in the GOP. It's populated by gifted liars and buffoonish grifters. It's going to have to start at the local level. But, I don't see much evidence that there's any movement away from the stoking of fear and hate. 

So, until he's dead and gone AND Fox et al stop giving credence to outright lies the GOP has to contend with it's own base to find electable candidates. 

5 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

The only way I can imagine Trump not running in 2028 is if he is dead. Because unless the GOP primary voter is somehow changed over the next few years they are going to keep heading down the road to crazyville. 

Sensible, credible, thoughtful people are becoming rare in the GOP. It's populated by gifted liars and buffoonish grifters. It's going to have to start at the local level. But, I don't see much evidence that there's any movement away from the stoking of fear and hate. 

So, until he's dead and gone AND Fox et al stop giving credence to outright lies the GOP has to contend with it's own base to find electable candidates. 

Trump is going to be older than Biden is now in 2028. I don’t think FoxNews is going to be aboard the Trump train for an old, multi-time loser. He just doesn’t give the GOP a chance to win. 
 

I do agree he’ll have a say in who the candidate is, if he’s alive. 

2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

Check out Jon Stewart's piece on his supporters from earlier this week. It is genuinely a cult, a very large percentage of them have created an alternate Trump in their head that they believe supports things he explicitly does not support. 

This is the end result of social media algorithms and a major news network lying and covering up reality with impunity.

A non clown country would have removed Fox News from the airwaves years ago.

1 hour ago, Cap33 said:

Yep. This is an old R trick. Laura Bush and Cindy McCain did it, too. "Hey, I'm pro choice, so don't be scared to vote for my husband." 

(And I apologize for putting the Bushes and McCains in the same post as these shit stain Trumps.) 

Nothing to apologize for. Both those families are some of the most responsible for bringing Trump and his minions to the forefront. Fuck them

1 hour ago, LurkingHorn said:

Wait, if Trump loses this year, people think 82 year old, even more senile Trump is going to be the candidate in 2028? That’s not going to happen though in a strange way, I’m sure the DNC would love it. Almost a guaranteed victory unless the Harris administration is a total disaster. 

It’s Haley in ‘28 and I don’t think I there’s a close 2nd. 

Nikki Haley is never going to be the Republican nominee for president lol.

13 minutes ago, LurkingHorn said:

Trump is going to be older than Biden is now in 2028. I don’t think FoxNews is going to be aboard the Trump train for an old, multi-time loser. He just doesn’t give the GOP a chance to win. 
 

I do agree he’ll have a say in who the candidate is, if he’s alive. 

Jerry Jones isn't going to give up either. Unless he's incapacitated Trump has the same ego drive to succeed despite all evidence that they absolutely suck at the job.

59 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Like Brisket, I have thought for a while that Trump will continue to run and own the GOP until he dies as well. 

I'm not so sure anymore. Look, his rallies really are becoming pathetic. He's in half empty arenas and people are consistently walking out in every city. You can hear a pin drop in those rooms as he drones on with insane, boring bullshit. And these people are the hardcore Trump lovers!

Republicans are good with 4 years of Trump in office. They are gonna groan at the idea of 4 more years of Trump whining and screaming and running for President again. It will take a while for MAGAts to wean off Trump's teat, but their will be a noticeable lack of enthusiasm from R voters to go through this shit again. 

Or so I hope. 

 


To be fair, those people are walking out because the money hit their Venmo accounts. They are just fulfilling their duties. 

trump isn’t giving up this money train until death hits him

2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

trump isn’t giving up this money train until death hits him

Exactly and hopefully he gives up the money train around Christmas time.

Lol

 

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Fundamental underpinning of American democracy.

"To a 12 year old he's not visibly insane."

That needed some love.

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2 hours ago, SizzleChest said:

Trump voters have been married to him for 8 or 9 years.  They’re not out there considering divorce seriously just yet, but they’re for sure really fucking bored, unenthused, and tired.

There are loads of them who just can’t figure to get out of the corner they’ve painted themselves into. Saving face is hard.

7 hours ago, wood said:

Yep. I'm 59 &before this campaign, I can't remember too many (any?) Republicans or Democrats going on national TV & stating that their party's candidate is so horrific as to make them vote for the opposition's candidate. In today's political climate, that takes some serious cojones grandes. 

And I have zero problem with her making some money with a book. She and everyone else who was inside the Capitol that day - whatever their party - went through some shit and deserves to try to turn it into some kind of a positive.

She wasn't inside the capitol.  She declined to issue a tweet decrying the violence.  Fuck her.  She's a miserable cunt, and she deserves to be married to Trump.   If I ever meet her, I'll ask her how Stormy's pussy tastes. 

6 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

She wasn't inside the capitol.  She declined to issue a tweet decrying the violence.  Fuck her.  She's a miserable cunt, and she deserves to be married to Trump.   If I ever meet her, I'll ask her how Stormy's pussy tastes. 

Seems like you're talking about Melania. 

I was talking about Cassidy Hutchinson.

3 minutes ago, wood said:

Seems like you're talking about Melania. 

I was talking about Cassidy Hutchinson.

Ah. I stand corrected, and please accept my apologies. 

45 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

Ah. I stand corrected, and please accept my apologies. 

No worries! I did miss it though, when I said she was inside the Capitol on Jan 6. My bad. I guess I was conflating two different stories. But serving with and being pressured by people in the Trump White House must have been traumatic enough all by itself. 

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Cuban acting as surrogate on another comedy-bro podcast (sorry blanking on the name right now). 
 

 

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3 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

 

Mayor Pete is a goddamn rock star and i hope i get the chance to vote for him for president one day. 

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4 hours ago, LurkingHorn said:

Wait, if Trump loses this year, people think 82 year old, even more senile Trump is going to be the candidate in 2028? That’s not going to happen though in a strange way, I’m sure the DNC would love it. Almost a guaranteed victory unless the Harris administration is a total disaster. 

It’s Haley in ‘28 and I don’t think I there’s a close 2nd. 

4 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

He lost in '20, led an insurrection in an attempt to stay in office, was impeached twice, and has 34 felony counts on him at the moment, and yet, here we are.

The GOP was fully consumed by the Trump Organization.  And you think the GOP is gonna allow Haley to have the nomination in '28?

If in 3 1/2 years he is still able to muster an attempt at a campaign, I think some shit will go down - either the BMDs won't fund him at all, or the primaries will be far tougher than they were, or we could see a third party run.

And I do think a lot of Republicans will bail on someone that they don't believe can help them win.  Losing is a sin, and losing to Sleepy Joe and Bi-racial Kamala will do it for them.  Toss in that a fuckload of conservative Republicans are publicly supporting Harris/voting against Dotard as well.

And in addition to the BMDs, there's a whole shitload of Republican politicians right now who are not going to be patient enough to wait until 2032 if he thinks he can run in 2028, because they aren't going to want to see what new crop of up-and-coming Republican politicians will be fighting them in the primaries in 7 years. 

And given how PACs work, we could easily see some of the BMDs telling Haley or somebody else to run against Trump and they'll fund her as a third-party, in an attempt to break Trump's hold on the party.  All it takes is the threat of peeling off 5-10% of the GOP and MAGA is neutered in terms of Trump winning.  Republican BMDs do not want to wander in the wilderness for 12 years. Shit, some of those fuckers are as old or older than Trump.

7 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

You don't get the fully open spigot, pouring every dollar into your pockets, unless you're a candidate.  If he loses, he will announce his campaign for 2028 within 90 days.  It ALSO gives him the argument of "ELECTION INTERFERENCE!" to scream about regarding his continued prosecution.

He has found the most lucrative, ego-stroking exercise of his life.  He won't let go of it till he's dead and buried.

I fucking hope he does. He’s going to drain the Republican Party of all life and money until he dies. He’ll be holding smaller and smaller “rallies” in hotel conference rooms rambling about random old movies. I want his life to end as pitifully and insignificantly as possible.

He really is tired. This is from earlier today.  He slurred some words the few minutes I listened, and he rambled about Biden and Biden using teleprompters.

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And that little fight at the Trump rally earlier.  Yeah, it's about what you expected.

 

2 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

And that little fight at the Trump rally earlier.  Yeah, it's about what you expected.

 

Cop ran in and tackled the black guy?

7 minutes ago, Xminus6 said:

Cop ran in and tackled the black guy?

The female cop went at the white guy, the bald cop went at the black guy, but then took his hands off of him and left the black guy to walk back by himself.

8 hours ago, cactusflinthead said:

The only way I can imagine Trump not running in 2028 is if he is dead. Because unless the GOP primary voter is somehow changed over the next few years they are going to keep heading down the road to crazyville. 

Sensible, credible, thoughtful people are becoming rare in the GOP. It's populated by gifted liars and buffoonish grifters. It's going to have to start at the local level. But, I don't see much evidence that there's any movement away from the stoking of fear and hate. 

So, until he's dead and gone AND Fox et al stop giving credence to outright lies the GOP has to contend with it's own base to find electable candidates. 

There is a culture of losing in that party.  They'd rather lose, play the victim, and blame everyone else.  Trump is that in human form.

It's like a college football program where winning isn't the most important thing.  Making certain boosters happy, keeping a coach, lack of money, etc.  

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4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

He really is tired. This is from earlier today.  He slurred some words the few minutes I listened, and he rambled about Biden and Biden using teleprompters.

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Those scrolls at the bottom.....

Where are those coming from?

4 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

If in 3 1/2 years he is still able to muster an attempt at a campaign, I think some shit will go down - either the BMDs won't fund him at all, or the primaries will be far tougher than they were, or we could see a third party run.

And I do think a lot of Republicans will bail on someone that they don't believe can help them win.  Losing is a sin, and losing to Sleepy Joe and Bi-racial Kamala will do it for them.  Toss in that a fuckload of conservative Republicans are publicly supporting Harris/voting against Dotard as well.

And in addition to the BMDs, there's a whole shitload of Republican politicians right now who are not going to be patient enough to wait until 2032 if he thinks he can run in 2028, because they aren't going to want to see what new crop of up-and-coming Republican politicians will be fighting them in the primaries in 7 years. 

And given how PACs work, we could easily see some of the BMDs telling Haley or somebody else to run against Trump and they'll fund her as a third-party, in an attempt to break Trump's hold on the party.  All it takes is the threat of peeling off 5-10% of the GOP and MAGA is neutered in terms of Trump winning.  Republican BMDs do not want to wander in the wilderness for 12 years. Shit, some of those fuckers are as old or older than Trump.

While you are correct, all of that happened this last time and he still won without even debating the field.

It's not the BMD's and the party.  It's the voters.  

Go fuck yourselves, Firefighters.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/10/03/fire-fighters-union-declines-presidential-endorsement-00182372

Vice President Kamala Harris suffered a blow Thursday as the union representing more than 300,000 career firefighters and emergency responders declined to make a presidential endorsement, two weeks after the International Brotherhood of Teamsters made a similar decision.

Leaders of the International Association of Fire Fighters gathered this week and determined “by a margin of 1.2%” against picking a candidate, according to General President Edward Kelly.

Means they didn’t have to votes to endorse Trump which is funny.

22 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Vice President Kamala Harris suffered a blow Thursday as the union representing more than 300,000 career firefighters and emergency responders declined to make a presidential endorsement

Strong “neither team needed a TE and neither team signed one.  Advantage: Texas A&M” vibes from Politico.

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There's really no better evidence that people are voting against their interest than major national unions failing to endorse Harris.

5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

If in 3 1/2 years he is still able to muster an attempt at a campaign, I think some shit will go down - either the BMDs won't fund him at all, or the primaries will be far tougher than they were, or we could see a third party run.

And I do think a lot of Republicans will bail on someone that they don't believe can help them win.  Losing is a sin, and losing to Sleepy Joe and Bi-racial Kamala will do it for them.  Toss in that a fuckload of conservative Republicans are publicly supporting Harris/voting against Dotard as well.

And in addition to the BMDs, there's a whole shitload of Republican politicians right now who are not going to be patient enough to wait until 2032 if he thinks he can run in 2028, because they aren't going to want to see what new crop of up-and-coming Republican politicians will be fighting them in the primaries in 7 years. 

And given how PACs work, we could easily see some of the BMDs telling Haley or somebody else to run against Trump and they'll fund her as a third-party, in an attempt to break Trump's hold on the party.  All it takes is the threat of peeling off 5-10% of the GOP and MAGA is neutered in terms of Trump winning.  Republican BMDs do not want to wander in the wilderness for 12 years. Shit, some of those fuckers are as old or older than Trump.

Seems like they should have thought of all of that sometime in January 2021.  You would think that another loss would seal the deal but none of this makes sense.

46 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Those scrolls at the bottom.....

Where are those coming from?

Seems like misinformation

Sure has been a lot of movement in races towards the Dems lately. First TX-SEN, now this

 

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