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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

fuck this whole fucking puppet show. 

 

I have to chuckle at this picture, knowing 2 things:

1. Trump probably hates religious people, and he must be very uncomfortable in this setting.  Good.

2. Reaching in like that, pretty much everyone is within smelling distance of Trump.

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1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

fuck this whole fucking puppet show. 

When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. When you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen.

28 minutes ago, Derka said:

 

 

 

We are just too stupid. We are just too god damn stupid. 

Just now, Biff Tannen said:

We are just too stupid. We are just too god damn stupid. 

The Democratic Party is not blameless for that mess.

3 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

We are just too stupid. We are just too god damn stupid. 

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23 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Harris has done a fine job explaining her policies to those listening. The media ignores it or twists it 

There's obviously room for improvement.

5 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The Democratic Party is not blameless for that mess.

Neat

58 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Fucking fuck. Who the fuck sees this and thinks, "That's something I want to be a part of"? And then somehow have the gall to consider themselves "independent thinkers."

These are the same people who think that thirty minutes of research on Facebook rewards the researcher with PhD level understanding of any topic.  They refused pandemic advice from literally all of the leading immunologists in the world, but they took it from their cousin's father-in-law's veterinarian.

Thinking isn't exactly these people's strong suit. 

They just want to be told that a) whatever they think is correct, and b) God loves them more than the people who are smarter than they are.  So, yeah, that prayer circle around Donald Trump looks pretty good to them.  It's easy endorphins, and it beats having to think all the time.

1 hour ago, TexEx15 said:

Chaser…

Would.

1 hour ago, RDCanecutter said:

Mine was a Ruckus covered in saddlebags.

Thank you for describing the Ruckus. 

5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Neat

What's the matter with Kansas, am I right?

Also, it wouldn't matter one bit, but Electoral College.

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5 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Would.

I see ...

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1 hour ago, TexEx15 said:

Shot…

Chaser…

 

Damn shame Riley's daddy didn't cripple her like he did Chucky Mullins. 

47 minutes ago, Derka said:

 

 

 

 

37 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Harris has done a fine job explaining her policies to those listening. The media ignores it or twists it 

Came to post this same thing. She’s done a great job, but it’s not reported on, and a huge segment doesn’t absorb news or reality. 

3 minutes ago, Gap03 said:

I see ...

 

Spoiler

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2 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

That kid would have a sticker on his helmet in my kids’ league 

I don't know what that means...

3 hours ago, Helobious said:

Why does everyone discredit Silver and say he’s shifted right? Because he posts predictions you don’t like? He’s a pretty well-respected mathematician that’s nailed every election except 2016. He hasn’t posted any personal political opinions that I know of. I wouldn’t be so quick to right him off. 

Silver wasn't that far off in 2016. At the end, 538 had the race at 70-30 for Hillary and definitely in the margin of error. 538 did a lot better than a lot of aggregators. His models did fine in 2018 also.

I lost faith in Silver when he started talking about the pandemic. He knows nothing about biologic systems, epidemiology, virology or an relevant modeling. Yet, he felt very comfortable spouting off bullshit. When presented with his errors, he refused to acknowledge them.

Smart people know enough to know where their expertise ends. His confidence talking about stuff he knows nothing about underminded my confidence in his ability to talk about anything.

45 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

He literally fucking admitted to shit like this on tape in October 2016. His voters do NOT care. They love that about him. 

Just now, quigley said:

Silver wasn't that far off in 2016. At the end, 538 had the race at 70-30 for Hillary and definitely in the margin of error. 538 did a lot better than a lot of aggregators. His models did fine in 2018 also.

I lost faith in Silver when he started talking about the pandemic. He knows nothing about biologic systems, epidemiology, virology or an relevant modeling. Yet, he felt very comfortable spouting off bullshit. When presented with his errors, he refused to acknowledge them.

Smart people know enough to know where their expertise ends. His confidence talking about stuff he knows nothing about underminded my confidence in his ability to talk about anything.

I knew he was a dumbass hack when his response 2 years ago to the right wing trash polls skewing the averages (and being wrong) was “well the democrats could just do it too”

4 minutes ago, quigley said:

Smart people know enough to know where their expertise ends. His confidence talking about stuff he knows nothing about underminded my confidence in his ability to talk about anything.

This is exactly it. The most important thing to know is what you don't know. And if you can't admit that then your insecurity holds you back. And that's what Silver is, he's essentially a decently smart but terribly insecure quant who got famous in a niche market.

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

I knew he was a dumbass hack when his response 2 years ago to the right wing trash polls skewing the averages (and being wrong) was “well the democrats could just do it too”

i used to listen to the 538 politics podcast regularly. Clare Malone was an obvious no nothing, but somewhat entertaining. I lapped up Silver's and Enten's bullshit for years.

The "experts" here have better balance than those goofs.

1 minute ago, BevoAbyss said:

Last week dropped my ballot in the mailbox of my "liberal" big city metropolis. Voted straight D.

Came of political age in the 80s and never voted for Ronnie Raygun, HW, W, or the MAGA Fuhrer.

For the remainder of my life, I cannot fathom voting R on anything. Ever. 

Me neither, and I'm not even a Democrat or a progressive. 

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34 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Would.

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2 hours ago, The Dog said:

 

Yeah and they don't understand economics because their economics teacher was ... they weren't required to take economics. 

2 hours ago, wood said:

Also says illegals are, get this, flying into the country in planes, and just landing and infiltrating society no probs.

So I guess no more need for a wall.

29 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

For the remainder of my life, I cannot fathom voting R on anything. Ever. 

27 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Me neither, and I'm not even a Democrat or a progressive. 

Me neither, and I voted Republican in almost every Presidential election from 1984 through 2016. I'll carry the shame of that last one to my grave.

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6 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Me neither, and I'm not even a Democrat or a progressive. 

“friend of the progrum”

4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Yeah and they don't understand economics because their economics teacher was ... they weren't required to take economics. 

My economics teacher was a history teacher teaching another class. My government teacher was badass, though.

2 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I hope the polls end up being WAY off. To the point of destroying the industry.

They're reporting data with a 2.5% response rate. Their margin of error is ENORMOUS.

When I see my friend who is part of PAC, I'll ask him how internal polling differs from public polling and why they're reluctant to share it.

4 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

I got an economics degree from UT.  Make of that what you will.

same. 36 hours of economics.

fuck this guy

 

2 minutes ago, Pancho said:

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Elon wearing the mansiere/breaux?

4 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I bet at least 75% of this board has picked the winner of every election since 1984 except maybe 2000 and 2016. For the most part, picking winners of presidential elections is pretty easy. 

Yep, and the red flags from 2016 about Trump’s chances are not showing up.

26 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Yeah and they don't understand economics because their economics teacher was ... they weren't required to take economics. 

My sex ed teacher was also our linebacker and strength and conditioning coach.  Interestingly, when I look back upon it, he was surprisingly progressive on a lot of things, in particular on people being gay.  As a coach, complete meathead, as a teacher, I have to actually give him credit.  

 

10 minutes ago, tx ind said:

fuck this guy

 

"I love America.

Also, I hate literally everything about America."

7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

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You know, it's been the longest time since I watched H.O.T.S. 

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8 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

My sex ed teacher was also our linebacker and strength and conditioning coach.  Interestingly, when I look back upon it, he was surprisingly progressive on a lot of things, in particular on people being gay.  As a coach, complete meathead, as a teacher, I have to actually give him credit. 

Cool, cool, cool. My 8th grade woodshop teacher at Bedichek, Mr. McFarland, was also the sleeping woodshop teacher in Dazed & Confused, and yeah, he really did fall asleep in class just like in the movie.

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6 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

"I love America.

Also, I hate literally everything about America."

Your love for America is based solely on how many flags you hug or bald eagle pictures you post on Facebook.

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41 minutes ago, wood said:

Me neither, and I voted Republican in almost every Presidential election from 1984 through 2016. I'll carry the shame of that last one to my grave.

I'm not an ex-Republican, to be clear. I don't care at all about ideology or party tribes. I consider myself a citizen loyal to the United States and Texas and my loyalty, as it were, is undivided. But on both moral and intellectual grounds,  I've consistently voted for Democrats since I could vote, because it the was the most effective way to vote against Republicans. Republicans have consistently offered me the worst combination of candidate and policy choices. I've only ever voted for one Republican, and I came to regret it.

The crazy thing to me that there are so many smart middle-aged adults unable to admit to themselves or just now realizing that the economic orthodoxy of the 80's was bullshit. 

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1 hour ago, locodos said:

I don't know what that means...

Kids over a certain weight couldn’t be ball carriers and had a sticker on their helmet to signify. For 6th grade it was 120 lbs. 

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3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I'm not an ex-Republican, to be clear. I don't care at all about ideology or party tribes. I consider myself a citizen loyal to the United States and Texas and my loyalty, as it were, is undivided. But on both moral and intellectual grounds,  I've consistently voted for Democrats since I could vote, because it the was the most effective way to vote against Republicans. Republicans have consistently offered me the worst combination of candidate and policy choices. I've only ever voted for one Republican, and I came to regret it.

I've voted for more Rs than that since I could vote (1996) but as I said in a thread somewhere this week, I don't care about party. I vote based on values and principles. It's not my fault that in 2024 that means voting against a particular party in every race possible. That's their fault.

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