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36 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Wife and I had dinner tonight avoiding Halloween kids like good republicans. After a few drinks she asked me how I voted. I told her. We left in separate cars as she had to collect kids. This is our text exchange:

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

She sent it. Don’t know or care where she got it from. Votes have been cast. By both of us. I voted Kamala. I know little about her aside from she’s not Trump. I’m not gonna discuss oil and gas under Biden here. We can discuss in Oil Barons thread. 

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42 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Wife and I had dinner tonight avoiding Halloween kids like good republicans. After a few drinks she asked me how I voted. I told her. We left in separate cars as she had to collect kids. This is our text exchange:

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Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, BearSchlong said:


Looking forward to my royalty check tomorrow. Thanks grandpa. Fuck trump.

A friend of mine I’ve known since I was 5 years old (now 35) befriended one of the Spindletop II descendants when he was a KA at Tech. Dude had mailbox money I couldn’t ever dream of. Great guy, met him in Key West. Never cheated on his gal and kids, met me at the bar before others flew in with no intro besides “look for the big dude”, but made sure all of us had a fun time in Key West clubs with a plastic sack of cash.

Bonus EDIT: He skipped the wedding but made his wife go cause he was in Germany for Oktoberfest

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5 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

A friend of mine I’ve known since I was 5 years old (now 35) befriended one of the Spindletop II descendants when he was a KA at Tech. Dude had mailbox money I couldn’t ever dream of. Great guy, met him in Key West. Never cheated on his gal and kids, met me at the bar before others flew in with no intro besides “look for the big dude”, but made sure all of us had a fun time in Key West clubs with a plastic sack of cash.

Bonus EDIT: He skipped the wedding but made his wife go cause he was I. Germany for Oktoberfest

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Posted
Wife and I had dinner tonight avoiding Halloween kids like good republicans. After a few drinks she asked me how I voted. I told her. We left in separate cars as she had to collect kids. This is our text exchange:
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Regardless of the reasons, we get that’s not a great time for you or your wife. I’m sorry you’re going through it.
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I just want to once again log…for the sake of posterity and flipping bits on a hard drive somewhere out there…that “tits, polls, and Bennigan’s” is a perfectly natural flow on the politics board here which simultaneously fills me with unspeakable joy and complete inability to adequately explain to others why I love this place.  

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Posted
3 hours ago, Red Five said:

Seth Meyers last night played a clip of Dotard on Rogan. Dotard was bragging about all the proof he had of the 2020 election being stolen. He said something like "Sometime later I'll show you all of it". Rogan said, obviously, "Are you ever going to present all of this evidence?"

Dotard looked like he'd been punched in the face. "Ummm.... well, you know, um....? But anyway...." Because, of course, anyone with actual proof of that MIGHT SHARE IT ON THE MOST POPULAR PODCAST IN THE WORLD, TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

The entire Seth Meyers segment is worth a watch.

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1 minute ago, Homercles said:

I just want to once again log…for the sake of posterity and flipping bits on a hard drive somewhere out there…that “tits, polls, and Bennigan’s” is a perfectly natural flow on the politics board here which simultaneously fills me with unspeakable joy and complete inability to adequately explain to others why I love this place.  

the ebb and flow of this thread is awesome... only interrupted by the brief and occasional appearance by imma

Posted
3 hours ago, Red Five said:

Seth Meyers last night played a clip of Dotard on Rogan. Dotard was bragging about all the proof he had of the 2020 election being stolen. He said something like "Sometime later I'll show you all of it". Rogan said, obviously, "Are you ever going to present all of this evidence?"

Dotard looked like he'd been punched in the face. "Ummm.... well, you know, um....? But anyway...." Because, of course, anyone with actual proof of that MIGHT SHARE IT ON THE MOST POPULAR PODCAST IN THE WORLD, TWO WEEKS BEFORE THE ELECTION.

He has a concept of a plan of telling everyone about the proof 

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Posted

Man bless you Rex. I could not be married to someone who voted for that guy. Just the same as I couldn't be married to someone who was completely uninterested in having sex. Wait a minute...

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@SydneyCarton Standing isn’t an issue. Standing is about whether he can allege he’s been the party actually aggrieved. Threshold has nothing to do with the merits of the claim. 
 

Jurisdiction and venue are the main concerns. Jurisdiction is whether the court in question has the authority to even hear the case. That will depend on Texas’s long arm statute (CBS is not a Texas entity) on whether Texas federal court can bring the case in. There’s a number of factors that go into consideration that mostly hinge on how close CBS has contacts to the state.  
 

Venue is about “does the incident itself make sense to be here”. That’s probably where it breaks down - Trump wasn’t in Amarillo or its immediate area when the show aired. Both parties don’t have the Panhandle as a primary place of business. CBS gonna be hard to serve there.  And courts generally looks down upon “forum shopping” even if venue is otherwise proved - a defendant can make an argument that the venue isn’t convenient considering the overall circumstances. 
 

My guess is that suit goes nowhere in Texas. 

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Just a thought about the silly 10 billion dollar suit against CBS, I read the other day, I think in Forbes, that they estimate that he has somewhere around $400 million liquid, however, with legal judgments (E. Jean Carroll, Statue of New York fraud, etc) and underwater assets he has 1.8ish billion in debt that will be due in 25.  

In other words, in his delusional mind, one of his solutions to his problems is to sue CBS to make up this shortfall.  He knows he is losing, and this is akin to a drowning man clasping at anything. 

I'm sure he's thinking of dumping the DJT stock for as much as he can, but he also knows if anyone remotely gets wind of this, it will tank.  Additionally, if he dumped a shitload of shares at once, trading would suspend and it would tank.  He's also out of time to significantly dump daily, he can do some, but not all at once, and given the negative volatility the last couple of days, that could well be part of what is going on (hard to tell with it actually being worth less than $2 a share).  

At any rate, this "lawsuit" reeks of desperation, and not that of a political nature.  It reeks of someone that is both crazy and desperate for money.  

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21 minutes ago, MrX said:

@SydneyCarton Standing isn’t an issue. Standing is about whether he can allege he’s been the party actually aggrieved. Threshold has nothing to do with the merits of the claim. 
 

Jurisdiction and venue are the main concerns. Jurisdiction is whether the court in question has the authority to even hear the case. That will depend on Texas’s long arm statute (CBS is not a Texas entity) on whether Texas federal court can bring the case in. There’s a number of factors that go into consideration that mostly hinge on how close CBS has contacts to the state.  
 

Venue is about “does the incident itself make sense to be here”. That’s probably where it breaks down - Trump wasn’t in Amarillo or its immediate area when the show aired. Both parties don’t have the Panhandle as a primary place of business. CBS gonna be hard to serve there.  And courts generally looks down upon “forum shopping” even if venue is otherwise proved - a defendant can make an argument that the venue isn’t convenient considering the overall circumstances. 
 

My guess is that suit goes nowhere in Texas. 

How is claiming he’s the party who has been aggrieved not valid in a case where the guy is claiming a 3rd party entity, in which he has no financial stake, edits or doesn’t edit an interview (which he’d have to prove they did and isn’t industry home), and that it directly harmed him somehow? Wouldn’t every political ad ever be subject to this suit if a network chose to air it and he disagreed with it? It feels like standing is an issue to me. 

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47 minutes ago, honolulu horn said:

Portugal no longer honors the Golden Visa, sorry to say. 

This in effect isn't true, although it's technically not called that any more. The parameters are the same (again, with the caveat that the investment in real estate route, which was by far the easiest, is now gone). For other investment pathways still available, you would still apply the same way as before but the visa technically transfers into a D2 entrepreneurship visa. The Golden Visa stay and investment requirements remain what they've been; you do not need to fulfill the standard D2 requirements. The issue with all this is that SEF (now AIMA, the immigration agency) has a long backlog that they are trying to work through. The D7 passive income and D8 digital nomad visas are much cheaper and easier to obtain, but you must be in country a minimum of 181 days/year whereas the Golden Visa is 7 (note again that the standard D2 visa has different requirements than that). With all of these visas you have the opportunity to switch to a permanent residency visa or obtain citizenship after 5 years. 

(probably a better topic for a thread in food and travel. Perhaps I'll see some of you in country someday)

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10 minutes ago, flatdawgs said:

This in effect isn't true, although it's technically not called that any more. The parameters are the same (again, with the caveat that the investment in real estate route, which was by far the easiest, is now gone). For other investment pathways still available, you would still apply the same way as before but the visa technically transfers into a D2 entrepreneurship visa. The Golden Visa stay and investment requirements remain what they've been; you do not need to fulfill the standard D2 requirements. The issue with all this is that SEF (now AIMA, the immigration agency) has a long backlog that they are trying to work through. The D7 passive income and D8 digital nomad visas are much cheaper and easier to obtain, but you must be in country a minimum of 181 days/year whereas the Golden Visa is 7 (note again that the standard D2 visa has different requirements than that). With all of these visas you have the opportunity to switch to a permanent residency visa or obtain citizenship after 5 years. 

(probably a better topic for a thread in food and travel. Perhaps I'll see some of you in country someday)

You sure know a lot about South America

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Posted
1 hour ago, honolulu horn said:

Portugal no longer honors the Golden Visa, sorry to say. 

I voted for Harris, but I am hopefully exiting within two years no matter what happens. Doing the first leg of the journey through the Pacific by coming to Honolulu to search for a place for the next week. Should be fully moved here by the end of January. So incredibly tired of the hateful pricks we should’ve shot out of a cannon into an active volcano after 2020.

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Posted
2 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Trump wants the absolute lowest prices for oil and doesn’t shy away. Everyone in Texas needs to know. There is a bad spot

 

the saudis are ready to help him and regain market share 

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Posted
1 hour ago, MrX said:

@SydneyCarton Standing isn’t an issue. Standing is about whether he can allege he’s been the party actually aggrieved. Threshold has nothing to do with the merits of the claim. 
 

Jurisdiction and venue are the main concerns. Jurisdiction is whether the court in question has the authority to even hear the case. That will depend on Texas’s long arm statute (CBS is not a Texas entity) on whether Texas federal court can bring the case in. There’s a number of factors that go into consideration that mostly hinge on how close CBS has contacts to the state.  
 

Venue is about “does the incident itself make sense to be here”. That’s probably where it breaks down - Trump wasn’t in Amarillo or its immediate area when the show aired. Both parties don’t have the Panhandle as a primary place of business. CBS gonna be hard to serve there.  And courts generally looks down upon “forum shopping” even if venue is otherwise proved - a defendant can make an argument that the venue isn’t convenient considering the overall circumstances. 
 

My guess is that suit goes nowhere in Texas. 

my guess is this is not cbs’ first rodeo. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, honolulu horn said:

Portugal no longer honors the Golden Visa, sorry to say. 

Pretty sure it's still available. It's the real estate investment that no longer qualifies but there are other methods. I could be wrong because they've been changing it up. 

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We are all voting. If it doesn’t come out for this stupid bitch Kamala, we’re all going to SE Asia, the guys who can somehow scrum like 500 bucks after 4 years, will be building our new home. With 6 wives. Not nagging us.

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2 hours ago, TexEx15 said:

 

in any other cycle, they’d be talking about her 2-3 point lead across the blue wall. this year it’s “a coin flip” or a “dead-heat”. 

when the legit polls are steady for weeks, there is no moe. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, yoladu said:

over/under on the number of people who actually end up voting in this photo?

Every single one of those white trash morons will dutifully go vote for their orange god king. Screw all of them. Just an absolute waste of humanity. We should not have to share a country with any of these people. Let them go live in Russia where the males in that photo would eventually be put into the meat grinder with Ukraine.

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6 hours ago, MrX said:

@SydneyCarton Standing isn’t an issue. Standing is about whether he can allege he’s been the party actually aggrieved. Threshold has nothing to do with the merits of the claim. 
 

Jurisdiction and venue are the main concerns. Jurisdiction is whether the court in question has the authority to even hear the case. That will depend on Texas’s long arm statute (CBS is not a Texas entity) on whether Texas federal court can bring the case in. There’s a number of factors that go into consideration that mostly hinge on how close CBS has contacts to the state.  
 

Venue is about “does the incident itself make sense to be here”. That’s probably where it breaks down - Trump wasn’t in Amarillo or its immediate area when the show aired. Both parties don’t have the Panhandle as a primary place of business. CBS gonna be hard to serve there.  And courts generally looks down upon “forum shopping” even if venue is otherwise proved - a defendant can make an argument that the venue isn’t convenient considering the overall circumstances. 
 

My guess is that suit goes nowhere in Texas. 

The problem of course is that venue lies in the discretion of the judge, mostly.  And Kazmethhead has yet to meet a suit without connection to Texas that he's willing to dismiss or transfer.  And it's not like the Fifth Circuit is going to grant mandamus to overrule him.

Standing in this case is going to be measured by the DTPA statute and I don't think Trump is a consumer within the meaning of the statute.  ETA:  Standing in the case of violation of a statute, like this cause of action, is a less free-ranging inquiry than what we've seen lately in the constitutional tort type cases.  It boils down to is the plaintiff the type of person that the statute intends to protect and does the plaintiff allege an injury that the statute was intended to redress.  I think the answers here are no and no.

(4) "Consumer" means an individual, partnership, corporation, this state, or a subdivision or agency of this state who seeks or acquires by purchase or lease, any goods or services, except that the term does not include a business consumer that has assets of $25 million or more, or that is owned or controlled by a corporation or entity with assets of $25 million or more.

(10) "Business consumer" means an individual, partnership, or corporation who seeks or acquires by purchase or lease, any goods or services for commercial or business use. The term does not include this state or a subdivision or agency of this state.

Secondarily, DTPA was originally intended to be sort of a "super Trademark/false advertising" statute.  It has been construed to cover a broader range of activity than that, but I don't think it stretches nearly this far.

Thirdly, I think the Texas anti-Slapp statute will apply to this, so if a 12(b)(6) motion doesn't kill it, that will.  ETAA: well goddammit, the Texas anti-Slapp statute appears not to apply in diversity cases in the 5th Circuit (I'm actually probably ok with this, as I am not so sure about that whole statute, Laura).

Finally, a ragtag weird collection of lawyers handling this for Trump, signifying that he is still unable to secure white shoe representation.  You can be reasonably sure that CBS is going to meet this with the best media/1A lawyers in the country that are going to stuff these dbags through the hoop, even in Kazmethhead's court.

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4 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

I voted for Harris, but I am hopefully exiting within two years no matter what happens. Doing the first leg of the journey through the Pacific by coming to Honolulu to search for a place for the next week. Should be fully moved here by the end of January. So incredibly tired of the hateful pricks we should’ve shot out of a cannon into an active volcano after 2020.

I’ve been very happy to be out here and removed from everything this year. The election may genuinely delay my return mainland if things go the wrong way. 

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1 minute ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I’ve been feeling optimistic until this morning. Friends of mine, all educated, white women in Texas, dressed as garbage and bragged about their votes. Obvious they are part of the cult. One is actually a really good friend too. Sigh.

Your friends seem like they suck.

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50 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

The problem of course is that venue lies in the discretion of the judge, mostly.  And Kazmethhead has yet to meet a suit without connection to Texas that he's willing to dismiss or transfer.  And it's not like the Fifth Circuit is going to grant mandamus to overrule him.

Standing in this case is going to be measured by the DTPA statute and I don't think Trump is a consumer within the meaning of the statute.  ETA:  Standing in the case of violation of a statute, like this cause of action, is a less free-ranging inquiry than what we've seen lately in the constitutional tort type cases.  It boils down to is the plaintiff the type of person that the statute intends to protect and does the plaintiff allege an injury that the statute was intended to redress.  I think the answers here are no and no.

(4) "Consumer" means an individual, partnership, corporation, this state, or a subdivision or agency of this state who seeks or acquires by purchase or lease, any goods or services, except that the term does not include a business consumer that has assets of $25 million or more, or that is owned or controlled by a corporation or entity with assets of $25 million or more.

(10) "Business consumer" means an individual, partnership, or corporation who seeks or acquires by purchase or lease, any goods or services for commercial or business use. The term does not include this state or a subdivision or agency of this state.

Secondarily, DTPA was originally intended to be sort of a "super Trademark/false advertising" statute.  It has been construed to cover a broader range of activity than that, but I don't think it stretches nearly this far.

Thirdly, I think the Texas anti-Slapp statute will apply to this, so if a 12(b)(6) motion doesn't kill it, that will.  ETAA: well goddammit, the Texas anti-Slapp statute appears not to apply in diversity cases in the 5th Circuit (I'm actually probably ok with this, as I am not so sure about that whole statute, Laura).

Finally, a ragtag weird collection of lawyers handling this for Trump, signifying that he is still unable to secure white shoe representation.  You can be reasonably sure that CBS is going to meet this with the best media/1A lawyers in the country that are going to stuff these dbags through the hoop, even in Kazmethhead's court.

Twice - You’re actually trying to apply the law. Unfortunately, Kaz-Know-Nothing doesn’t actually care about the law. He thinks God wants him to grant a victory to Trump and he will rule for Trump.

As you rightly point out, that will ultimately go through the 5th Circuit which is the most wretched hive of scum and villainy since Mos Eisley. In a 2-1 decision, they will uphold the Amarillo Moron’s decision.

Now, we’re at the Supreme Court. Thomas and Alito will threaten to show up at Court every day open carrying ARs if the Court takes the case. Ultimately the Court takes the case and Trump loses a 5-4 decision with Roberts and ACB joining the 3 liberal justices. Thomas pens a dissent written in crayon and blood that Trump should be able to file this lawsuit in Texas because he sent some nice Russians to his house and they fixed his RV which had broken down in Nebraska.

This timeline sucks.

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Posted
3 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

I’ve been feeling optimistic until this morning. Friends of mine, all educated, white women in Texas, dressed as garbage and bragged about their votes. Obvious they are part of the cult. One is actually a really good friend too. Sigh.

lol, optimistic about what? Texas flipping? Otherwise WGAF. Also new state, new friends, imo. 

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Posted
39 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

I’ve been very happy to be out here and removed from everything this year. The election may genuinely delay my return mainland if things go the wrong way. 

Boy howdy you are really lucky to not see this circus sideshow on a daily basis. NYC has way too many of these people. It may be a Democratic stronghold, but the stain of Staten Island and Suffolk County is just embarrassing.

I won’t return to the mainland once I leave. Once that plane leaves in January I will not set foot in the continental US for the rest of my life if I can help it. We have this very short time to live and enjoy our lives and even wasting a minute of it living with just hateful, bottom of the barrel people is just in no way worth it. My niece and nephew will know which South Pacific country I am living in and they can come visit me there when they are older and can travel. I hope to get my mom out to Honolulu for at least a month once I settle in as well.

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