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27 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Dane County (Madison) showed up. 82%-18% for the Democrat with 280k total votes.

It had to be be that illegal promise of ice cream 

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4 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Dane County (Madison) showed up. 82%-18% for the Democrat with 280k total votes.

wait til they start shutting down campus voting to make sure that doesn't happen anymore.

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16 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Remember how "out-of-state billionaires interfering in our elections!" was such a battle cry for.....the exact same people who are cheering on Elon?

Pepperidge Farm remembers.

Billionaires are a virus.

George Soros!

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https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/04/02/trump-musk-leaving-political-liability-00265784

 

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Rachael Bade is POLITICO's Capitol bureau chief and senior Washington columnist. She is a former co-author of POLITICO Playbook and co-author of "Unchecked: The Untold Story Behind Congress's Botched Impeachments of Donald Trump." Her reported column, Corridors, illuminates how power pulses through Washington, from Capitol Hill to the White House and beyond.

President Donald Trump has told his inner circle, including members of his Cabinet, that Elon Musk will be stepping back in the coming weeks from his current role as governing partner, ubiquitous cheerleader and Washington hatchet man.

The president remains pleased with Musk and his Department of Government Efficiency initiative, according to three Trump insiders who were granted anonymity to describe the evolving relationship, but both men have decided in recent days that it will soon be time for Musk to return to his businesses and take on a supporting role.

Musk’s looming retreat comes as some Trump administration insiders and many outside allies have become frustrated with his unpredictability and increasingly view the billionaire as a political liability, a dynamic that was thrown into stark relief Tuesday when a conservative judge Musk vocally supported lost his bid for a Wisconsin Supreme Court seat by 10 points.

 

It also represents a stark shift in the Trump-Musk relationship from a month ago, when White House officials and allies were predicting Musk was “here to stay” and that Trump would find a way to blow past the 130-day time limit.

One senior administration official said Musk is likely to retain an informal role as an adviser and continue to be an occasional face around the White House grounds. Another cautioned that anyone who thinks Musk is going to disappear entirely from Trump’s orbit is “fooling themselves.”

The transition, the insiders said, is likely to correspond to the end of Musk’s time as a “special government employee,” a special status that temporarily exempts him from some ethics and conflict-of-interest rules. That 130-day period is expected to expire in late May or early June.

Musk’s defenders inside the administration believe that the time is right for a transition, given their view that there’s only so much more he can cut from government agencies without shaving too close to the bone.

But many others say, he’s an unpredictable, unmanageable force who has had issues communicating his plans with Cabinet secretaries and through the White House chain of command led by Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, frequently sending them into a frenzy with unexpected and off-message comments on X, his social-media platform — including sharing unvetted and uncoordinated plans to gut federal agencies.

The political threat Musk poses was highlighted Tuesday after Democrats seized on Musk’s roughly $20 million investment in the Wisconsin race, with some openly calling it a referendum on the polarizing mogul.

Trump, however, had already started easing the glide path starting more than a week before the election — including at a March 24 Cabinet meeting where he told attendees that Musk would be transitioning out of the administration, according to one of the insiders, who was briefed on the comments.

Immediately after making the announcement, Trump invited reporters and cameras in for the tail end of the meeting, where he lavished praise on Musk, who attended the meeting wearing a red MAGA hat. Cabinet secretaries — many of whom had clashed with Musk just weeks before over Musk’s bull-in-a-china-shop approach to cutting their departments — in turn jumped in to hail his bureaucracy-slashing campaign.

“Elon, I want to thank you — I know you’ve been through a lot,” Trump said, mentioning death threats and the spate vandalism directed at the cars built by Tesla before calling him “a patriot” and “a friend of mine.”

Both men subsequently hinted publicly at a transition. When Fox News’ Bret Baier asked Musk on Thursday whether he’d be ready to leave when his special government employee status expires, he essentially declared mission accomplished: “I think we will have accomplished most of the work required to reduce the deficit by $1 trillion within that time frame.”

On Monday night, Trump told reporters that “at some point Elon’s gonna want to go back to his company,” adding: “He wants to. I’d keep him as long as I could keep him.”

“As the President said, this White House would love to keep Elon around for as long as possible,” White House spokesperson Harrison Fields said Tuesday as election results from Wisconsin rolled in. “Elon has been instrumental in executing the President’s agenda, and will continue this good work until the President says otherwise.”

But many close to Trump are increasingly relieved that Musk is expected to soon move on from his central role at Trump’s side and that the litany of DOGE surprises — which have ranged from a weekend email blast demanding federal workers list their work output to accidental cuts to Ebola prevention programs — might finally be coming to a close.

That’s to say nothing of their concerns about Musk as a political liability who has served as a rallying point for fractured Democrats.

 

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On 4/1/2025 at 9:11 AM, Sawbonz said:

Aren’t carriers always named for ex presidents?

 

First, it's obviously a joke. But to your point, no. It's already named the USS Enterprise. Last I checked, we haven't had a President Enterprise.

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NSIAP

BTW - for those that really know, this has nothing to do with The fall of Western Civilization, this had simply to do with this:

https://apnews.com/article/tesla-musk-wisconsin-supreme-court-dealerships-101d7608d69dda61aeaf6ebee7903d2b

Tesla was suing to overturn the law that prevents companies from running dealerships, they must be franchises. Elon is big mad about this and has been fighting this for almost a decade.

 

So yeah, this was simply about him wanting to get his way.

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2 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

why would $TSLA be up over the last few hours?

TSLA went from unchanged to as of now up 5% immediately when the news dropped.  It's a positive because the perception is 1.) the less he's involved in government the less backlash TSLA will receive and 2.) he's got a good track record when he's focused on a product.  Personally I doubt he'll block out all distractions enough to focus on TSLA but we'll see.  

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26 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

1) they will not separate/disentangle in any meaningful way.  They aren't following any rules or norms re Elon as a "government employee" now, they won't in the future.

2) GOOD.  Tie them together.  For eternity.  Then tie them to 1,000 cinderblocks, and toss them both, together, into the sea over the Marianas Trench.

Attack Elon.  Attack Trump.  In every possible way, in every arena.  Relentlessly.  Attack until they are finished, and then attack the rubble.  Elon is right about one thing: we ARE in a war for civilization.  Do you want it to be a fascist oligarchical hellscape, or maybe, just maybe, have societies that also consider what is good for the people as a whole?  Elon, you declared war on us.  You don't get to fucking walk that back.  You get to lose.

 

Once again. We should be attacking CONGRESS, who is just letting this shit happen. Neither DoTArd or BDNB (Broke Dick Nazi Boi) will be on a ballot. 

 

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6 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

why would $TSLA be up over the last few hours?

Why did $NMAX (Newsmax) go from $14/share to $130 share? Because fuck it, that's why. $150M in revenue with negative net income completely justifies a $30 billion market cap! Same memestock dynamics as TSLA

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23 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Why did $NMAX (Newsmax) go from $14/share to $130 share? Because fuck it, that's why. $150M in revenue with negative net income completely justifies a $30 billion market cap! Same memestock dynamics as TSLA

I can actually wrap my head around why newsmax would blow up, even if it's basely speculative. 

Tesla at this point, not so much. 

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34 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I laughed.

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That thing's junk. Everyone inside TSLA was telling him that but his ego wouldn't listen. Still, it's the only thing in TSLA's stable that's a miss. 

5 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I can actually wrap my head around why newsmax would blow up, even if it's basely speculative. 

Tesla at this point, not so much. 

No you can't.  There's no reasonable justification why NMAX went to $290 a day after it IPOed at $10.  7.5 million shares priced at $10.  That move to $290 was due to the mechanics of the shorts/locates sytem.

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17 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

That thing's junk. Everyone inside TSLA was telling him that but his ego wouldn't listen. Still, it's the only thing in TSLA's stable that's a miss. 

And FSD, and RoboTaxis, and...

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6 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

And FSD, and RoboTaxis, and...

We'll see about RoboTaxis and FSD is the only product in its space in the market.  

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9 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

We'll see about RoboTaxis and FSD is the only product in its space in the market.  

Mercedes has Level 3 autonomy. 

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23 minutes ago, royiv said:

Mercedes has Level 3 autonomy. 

Both FSD and Drive Pilot require the driver to be available to intervene but they're not the same.  FSD you enter any address, hit start, and it'll take you to your destination and sometimes park your car. Mercedes's Drive Pilot only works on certain highways.  

 

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2 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

Both FSD and Drive Pilot require the driver to be available to intervene but they're not the same.  FSD you enter any address, hit start, and it'll take you to your destination and sometimes park your car. Mercedes's Drive Pilot only works on certain highways.  

 

It just parks your car sometimes? The other times, do you just jump out the door while the car continues on its merry way?

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3 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

Both FSD and Drive Pilot require the driver to be available to intervene but they're not the same.  FSD you enter any address, hit start, and it'll take you to your destination and sometimes park your car. Mercedes's Drive Pilot only works on certain highways.  

 

FSD is Level 2. Drive Pilot is Level 3. You’re right, they’re not the same. 

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4 minutes ago, Deej said:

It just parks your car sometimes? The other times, do you just jump out the door while the car continues on its merry way?

It hits a pedestrian and you never make it to your destination

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Just now, royiv said:

FSD is Level 2. Drive Pilot is Level 3. You’re right, they’re not the same. 

 

It's still the only product in the market that'll take you door to door anywhere in the US.  You can't use Drive Pilot outside of California and Nevada.  And then only on approved highways. 

 

3 minutes ago, Deej said:

It just parks your car sometimes? The other times, do you just jump out the door while the car continues on its merry way?

The other times it alerts you to take over when you've reached the parking lot and if you don't take over it stops the car.

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