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On 4/24/2024 at 4:44 PM, DDD Dad said:

I don't know why this term of reference bothers me so. Perhaps its because I'm half Jewish (father's side so not recognized as Jewish by ethnic/religious Jews).  But when people refer to Jewish people (as in, the adjective use of the term) as "Jew" rather than "Jewish", it comes across as anti-Semitic to me (e.g., "I have a Jew lawyer" instead of "my lawyer is Jewish"), or at the very least ignorant.  It carries the same derogatory connotation as when people refer to the "Democrat" Party instead of the "Democratic" Party.

Anyway, just thought I'd put that out there.

Apropos of nothing, agreed.  Jew feels pejorative.  It's not quite the same, but it's like c*nt feels more pejorative than the other anatomical labels.  Something linguistic about it that @RDCanecutter can explain, maybe.

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1 hour ago, Hank_Hill said:

Thoughts and prayers for this woman as she struggles with this rabid mob

That's insane.  The usual Karen at least requires some sort of unpleasant or high-tension episode to "speak to the manager."  This bitch just walks up on people and starts making shit up.

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Louis C.K. has the best explanation of the terminology differentiator of Jew(s) than any Jewish person I know.  And I'm part Jewish.  

I wouldn't compare it with "cunt" though.  Brits, and other Europeans, throw it around and it's nowhere near as offensive to women as it is here in the U.S.  Just like some of our cuss words are woefully more offensive to them than they are to us.  

Most Jewish folks I know will self-identify as "I'm a Jew." rather than "I'm Jewish."  But I know lots that use them interchangeably.  And when referring to other members of the ethnicity, it's more often than not, at least here in the U.S., "The Jewish people this", "the Jewish population that."  But then go back to referring to just themselves "As a Jew...I think xyz."  It's mostly the same in Europe particularly among Sephardic Jews of which I am part.  Ashkenazis and Eastern European/Russian folks typically, at least in my little experience will use "Jewish" more than "Jew."  YMMV

The one thing you don't do, as I have to politely remind my in-laws of, is you never, ever use "Jew" as a fucking verb.  I have no fucking idea how that's still a thing.  

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That's insane.  The usual Karen at least requires some sort of unpleasant or high-tension episode to "speak to the manager."  This bitch just walks up on people and starts making shit up.

She should be charged with making a false report.
And as she accused the people around her of criminal conduct, they could also support a defamation claim.
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15 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Louis C.K. has the best explanation of the terminology differentiator of Jew(s) than any Jewish person I know.  And I'm part Jewish.  

I wouldn't compare it with "cunt" though.  Brits, and other Europeans, throw it around and it's nowhere near as offensive to women as it is here in the U.S.  Just like some of our cuss words are woefully more offensive to them than they are to us.  

Most Jewish folks I know will self-identify as "I'm a Jew." rather than "I'm Jewish."  But I know lots that use them interchangeably.  And when referring to other members of the ethnicity, it's more often than not, at least here in the U.S., "The Jewish people this", "the Jewish population that."  But then go back to referring to just themselves "As a Jew...I think xyz."  It's mostly the same in Europe particularly among Sephardic Jews of which I am part.  Ashkenazis and Eastern European/Russian folks typically, at least in my little experience will use "Jewish" more than "Jew."  YMMV

The one thing you don't do, as I have to politely remind my in-laws of, is you never, ever use "Jew" as a fucking verb.  I have no fucking idea how that's still a thing.  

Louis C.K still makes me sad. Funniest person ever. Huge creepy POS. Makes me disappoint. 

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If we want the "Fascism at UT" thread to be funnier, we really need to get the DPS to use tear gas so it can be defeated by students with leaf blowers ala the 2020 Portland riots.

 

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11 hours ago, YGIFS said:

Louis C.K. has the best explanation of the terminology differentiator of Jew(s) than any Jewish person I know.  And I'm part Jewish.  

I wouldn't compare it with "cunt" though.  Brits, and other Europeans, throw it around and it's nowhere near as offensive to women as it is here in the U.S.  Just like some of our cuss words are woefully more offensive to them than they are to us.  

Most Jewish folks I know will self-identify as "I'm a Jew." rather than "I'm Jewish."  But I know lots that use them interchangeably.  And when referring to other members of the ethnicity, it's more often than not, at least here in the U.S., "The Jewish people this", "the Jewish population that."  But then go back to referring to just themselves "As a Jew...I think xyz."  It's mostly the same in Europe particularly among Sephardic Jews of which I am part.  Ashkenazis and Eastern European/Russian folks typically, at least in my little experience will use "Jewish" more than "Jew."  YMMV

The one thing you don't do, as I have to politely remind my in-laws of, is you never, ever use "Jew" as a fucking verb.  I have no fucking idea how that's still a thing.  

Perhaps you missed the point of my my post. When used as a noun, Jew is fine. When used as an adjective, “my Jew lawyer”, not fine. 

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Gotcha.  I read fast and miss details.  Absolutely as an adjective, and to your point and my other point, even grossly more offensive when used as a verb.  As in "I jewed him down on price at the garage sale."  

It speaks to that enigma that Louis C.K. describes.  There's a lot of races/ethnicities/nationalities that will get used by assholes as an adjective, "My Black friend", "My Muslim Co-Worker", "So this Mexican guy is speaking Mexican in front of me at 7-11 by this Indian guy."  But, at least here in the U.S. (I plead ignorance on most of the rest of the planet), you only hear "Jew" used as a verb and not really any other races/ethnicities.  I'm sure there are anecdotal exceptions but I've never heard, and I've been around a very big portion of this melting pot of ours, "So he Islam'd his way out of another meeting" or "Of course he Pole'd his way into a promotion" or "She El Salvador'd herself down on price."  

And the crazy part is 99% of the people that use "Jew" as an adjective/verb don't even know any.  Not saying it'd be right, but if there was some experience you had with a Jewish person and you walked away feeling like they were all bad/greedy.  Not right, but I see the bullshit 'logic.'  But hell, my in-laws use it as a verb.  And the only Jewish person they've ever met is me.  And I'm only 1/4.  It was less than ten years ago, they finally learned Jesus was raised as a practicing Jew.  From me.  But they still "Gotta Jew 'em down on interest rates at the bank there..."  I still don't get how that's still a thing after all these centuries.  

I mean, don't me wrong, I got 'Nepal'eased' by this coin dealer when I was living in South Florida.  

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Perhaps you missed the point of my my post. When used as a noun, Jew is fine. When used as an adjective, “my Jew lawyer”, not fine. 

I had a Jewish girlfriend. Seems like the adjective is fine here.
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2 minutes ago, Nivek said:


I had a Jewish girlfriend. Seems like the adjective is fine here.

You had a Jew girlfriend?  It’s using “Jew” as an adjective (instead of “Jewish”) that is the issue. 

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3 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

You had a Jew girlfriend?  It’s using “Jew” as an adjective that is the issue. 

“I had a girlfriend who is Jewish”. This phrasing should be used more often when the topic is sensitive and the adjective is not in person forward language. E.g. I have a “patient with obesity” rather than “the obese patient.”

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2 minutes ago, Newdoc said:

“I had a girlfriend who is Jewish”. This phrasing should be used more often when the topic is sensitive and the adjective is not in person forward language. E.g. I have a “patient with obesity” rather than “the obese patient.”

My whole point is that the word “Jew” is a noun, not an adjective. Using it as an adjective in place of the actual adjective term, “Jewish”, is pejorative, regardless of where it is placed in a sentence. 

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12 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Apropos of nothing, agreed.  Jew feels pejorative.  It's not quite the same, but it's like c*nt feels more pejorative than the other anatomical labels.  Something linguistic about it that @RDCanecutter can explain, maybe.

Oh Law, please don't drag my redneck ass into it. :) I've only been Jewish twice, when dealing with other rednecks who were mumbling something anti-semitic. It was a lie, but it helped fuck with rednecks so I'd do it again. Linguistically, all I have to add is, why isn't it called Anti-Shemetic? Sheems a bit like a shimple shibboleth.

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22 minutes ago, Newdoc said:

“I had a girlfriend who is Jewish”. This phrasing should be used more often when the topic is sensitive and the adjective is not in person forward language. E.g. I have a “patient with obesity” rather than “the obese patient.”

Does this mean I can't saw "jewbies" anymore? Should I say "breasts of Jewish heritage"?

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18 hours ago, HendersonHorns said:

No silly. It was the Cossacks and the….  I’m forgetting. 
 

Just a little wacky humor that we were instructed to use by the boss. 

Bandidos

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27 minutes ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Does this mean I can't saw "jewbies" anymore? Should I say "breasts of Jewish heritage"?

I guess you could say that “group who are jewbies.”

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I had a Jewish girlfriend. Seems like the adjective is fine here.

You had a Jew girlfriend?  It’s using “Jew” as an adjective (instead of “Jewish”) that is the issue. 

Raising a question…
Does this mean I can't saw "jewbies" anymore? Should I say "breasts of Jewish heritage"?

Glad someone asked.
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I was out with some mutual friends after a Moontower Comedy show years ago.  And Rachel Feinstein was there and hammered drunk.  And wearing this revealing dress (if you know her standup, she's pretty cute with a great figure).  And she was cracking up at something another comic said while trying to spit out her drink so she's rocking her head back and forth and for a split second, one her tits popped mostly out. and it was fantastic.  And the other guy, without skipping a beat, Shakes some mint box or tic-tacs (obviously not the candy by the same name, but he was johnny on the spot with the joke) and says "Hey Rache, nice juju-bees", and she actually spit the drink out.  I nearly ejaculated and pissed myself at the same time.  /csb

what were we talking about!  CEASE FIRE!  

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1 hour ago, Helobious said:

They recycle that joke anytime a protetest happens. It was kind of funny the first time they did it like 5 years ago.

Oh Heblowmeus….such a delicate little flower. Even an old joke ruins your day.

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6 hours ago, Newdoc said:

I have a “patient with obesity” rather than “the obese patient.”

Not to threadjack, but this is silly. 
 

You never say diabetic patient? Cardiac patient? Anemic patient? 
 

Why tiptoe around it? 
 

Besides, I prefer HEB+

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1 hour ago, DaggerHorns said:

Oh Heblowmeus….such a delicate little flower. Even an old joke ruins your day.

Not laughing at a lazy joke I’ve seen 50+ times = day ruined. Totally makes sense.

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44 minutes ago, lucious leftfoot said:

Not to threadjack, but this is silly. 
 

You never say diabetic patient? Cardiac patient? Anemic patient? 
 

Why tiptoe around it? 
 

Besides, I prefer HEB+

 

It changes the emphasis. You wouldn't say the priapism patient, you would say the person with the dick problem.

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8 hours ago, Newdoc said:

“I had a girlfriend who is Jewish”. This phrasing should be used more often when the topic is sensitive and the adjective is not in person forward language. E.g. I have a “patient with obesity” rather than “the obese patient.”

reminds me of a Bill Burr bit...something about knowing to put the adjective in the right place...

ha, found it:

 

 

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20 hours ago, YGIFS said:

Louis C.K. has the best explanation of the terminology differentiator of Jew(s) than any Jewish person I know.  And I'm part Jewish.  

I wouldn't compare it with "cunt" though.  Brits, and other Europeans, throw it around and it's nowhere near as offensive to women as it is here in the U.S.  Just like some of our cuss words are woefully more offensive to them than they are to us.  

Most Jewish folks I know will self-identify as "I'm a Jew." rather than "I'm Jewish."  But I know lots that use them interchangeably.  And when referring to other members of the ethnicity, it's more often than not, at least here in the U.S., "The Jewish people this", "the Jewish population that."  But then go back to referring to just themselves "As a Jew...I think xyz."  It's mostly the same in Europe particularly among Sephardic Jews of which I am part.  Ashkenazis and Eastern European/Russian folks typically, at least in my little experience will use "Jewish" more than "Jew."  YMMV

The one thing you don't do, as I have to politely remind my in-laws of, is you never, ever use "Jew" as a fucking verb.  I have no fucking idea how that's still a thing.  

When I compared it with cunt, I was referring to its linguistics, not it's meaning.  One-syllable word with a hard consonant to begin.  There's something about just saying it that makes it feel  . . . dirty or something.  Same with cunt.

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2 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

Can I use it as a verb?

Thats a really good question.  How would one use "Cunt" as a verb?

"Rochelle cunted her way on an erotic trip from Milan to Minsk?"  

I had to take one more writing course at UT summer before I graduated.  Can't remember the course title or professor name.  But he had this ice-breaker exercise where you had to write the most bizarre opening dialogue line to a novel and it HAD to be something you'd never hear in real life.  But  It had to make sense grammatically, couldn't just be inane banter (hence by B- in the class).  And then it had to flow from the sublime into a more normal prose.  The lesson was supposed to be something about drawing your audience in and then going with more conventional writing.  I can't remember what mine was.  But the clear winner of the day was the guy next to me, who read aloud.  Anyway, it was a really helpful exercise on how to grab your audience with the absurd, but plausible in some parallel universe and then roll into your normal narrative.  And nothing was off limits, his opening salvo was:  "Stop sucking my dick before I call the police."  I will remember that line until I'm in a nursing home trying to bang some cunt down the hall.  

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10 hours ago, DDD Dad said:

My whole point is that the word “Jew” is a noun, not an adjective. Using it as an adjective in place of the actual adjective term, “Jewish”, is pejorative, regardless of where it is placed in a sentence. 

I feel like using “Jew” as an adjective is folksy, down-home, “don’t they have their own country clubs” anti-semitism. If someone uses “Jewry” or “the Jew” he probably owns a lot of Hugo Boss. 

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14 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Eeew. No. That sounds racist-y.

I mean, you were right, at least back in my day. But still…you should be ashamed of yourself.

Well, it's not the n-wordesses.  We established that Jew as a noun is probably or completely ok, why can't we slap a feminine suffix on it?  Even if it's antiquated?

I still refrain from using "Jew" as a singular noun or verb  But as soon as you add a suffix, as in "Jewish" or "Jewess," I lose my distaste.  Jewish is fine.  Jew just rubs me wrong.

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1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

I feel like using “Jew” as an adjective is folksy, down-home, “don’t they have their own country clubs” anti-semitism. If someone uses “Jewry” or “the Jew” he probably owns a lot of Hugo Boss. 

I mean nigra is kinda folksy too.  It's the folksy ones we have to worry about these days.

I think Jewish people use the term Jewry with some frequency.

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