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3 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

It’s a 911 memorial, so he’s probably thinking about the beautiful foot wedges that led to his club championship. 

And reminiscing about that one time he had the tallest building in NYC.

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8 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

One thing that's really gnawing at me today is the response from notable liberals to Kirk's murder. It's not that it's bad for public officials and other notable liberals whose voices carry weight to speak out against political violence. But there was an immediate rush for them to get statements out yesterday like we've never seen before. I'm pretty sure Obama never even made a public statement about Melissa Hortman's assassination, but he had a statement out within like 30 minutes yesterday. Hortman was an elected representative and literally someone Obama had met and hosted at the White House.  But her assassination and the attempted assassination of another elected representative by a right winger with a hit list with like 70 more liberals on it (including Obama) didn't merit anything. That was just a fucking Tuesday, or whatever. And look at Ezra Klein's opinion today, just straight up lying to his audience that Kirk did politics "the right way." And I'm sure there's plenty of other similar statements/articles from liberal commentators pretending that Charlie Kirk was a great guy with whom they just had normal political disagreements.

There's only two explanations I can think of for this, neither of them good. First, it could just be conscious or even subconscious pre-emptive surrender on their part. Maybe they just think the fight has already been lost and they've resigned themselves to fascism dominion over America and don't want to endanger themselves. But if that's the case, I find it absolutely ridiculous. Yeah things are bad and everyone here knows I've been saying this shit is going to get very bad for a long time. But like I said yesterday, I don't know that this really gives them any ammunition to ratchet their propaganda up further because their reaction to this is virtually identical to their reaction to a million trivial things. There's already a fire raging, and this doesn't help, but I don't know that it really pours any substantial amount of gas on the fire and I still think there is a chance the fire can be contained, if not quickly extinguished. Just look at how incompetent they've been at so much of their attempt to consolidate power. Look at how fucking old and worthless Trump looks. Look at Republicans begging Pritzker to let them invade Chicago a little bit just as a treat. They are not a vigorous, unstoppable movement, and for liberals with real platforms to treat them as if they are is fucking embarrassing.  

The alternative, and I don't know if it's worse or better, is that they simply view Kirk as one of "them" in a way that a lowly state representative isn't, and that they just fundamentally think people of their social status matter more than a lowly state representative, much less us normal people.  That they just see it all as a game and think the players on the other side are as Good as they are, regardless of what they say or do.

Dems are just so anxious to take the high road in the face of this shit that they are debasing themselves, imo.  So, the first one.

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

Is he having a stroke here, or do some people who recover from strokes just stay this way?

Temporary and permanent paralysis, including of facial features is a common result of strokes.  Often on one side of the body or the other, depending on which part of the brain was affected.

Maybe even TIAs (mini strokes), not sure.

There's been some reasoned speculation, but speculation nonetheless, that a) his leg swelling is related to thrombotic syndrome or blood clots, which might make some sense given its relatively recent and sudden appearance and b) he has had some TIAs transient ischemic attacks, or mini strokes that aren't usually debilitating, but could also relate to clotting disorders as well as cranial atherosclerosis and c) this led to his taking blood thinners which would be a very logical explanation for the hand bruises.

TIAs will cause sometimes some temporary speech difficulties, balance problems, and various such things but don't know about the paralysis.  They'd be a good explanation for some of his recent "behaviors" and his weekend "absence."

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5 hours ago, Kdub said:

Could be Bells Palsy

 

He was always underrated second baseman for the Philadelphia Athletics.

Was that why he wasn’t able to play baseball anymore? A stroke?

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A scrub tech I work with/am really good friends with had Bells Palsy once. I walked into his OR, mid surgery in front of everyone and said:

 

Justin! Why the long face?

 

 

To this day, ive never heard louder laughter. Dude still laughs his ass off about it

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Posted
2 hours ago, troph said:

Major stroke at his age (I haven’t been following the news about his health) can absolutely cause a permanent change like that and puts the person in a narrow window of 3-5 years or less to live with mental and physical deterioration progressing. Basically at his age and health he’s not going to get better - long term - from a stroke.

Sarcastic Oh No GIF by Saturday Night Live

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Posted

That may be one of the worst things an American president has ever said. And frankly, it just pisses me off because it only reminds me of how Obama was the most divisive president ever.

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Posted (edited)

Guy is mad that Kirk had his spotlight for a hot minute. 
 

I wonder how the family will feel when all the funeral speakers just thank Trump for his leadership. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Red Five said:

That may be one of the worst things an American president has ever said. And frankly, it just pisses me off because it only reminds me of how Obama was the most divisive president ever.

 

never forget !!!!

 

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What was it like being able to confidently plan for the future? Especially as a Texas resident with two young kids, I find this incredibly difficult to do.

My wife and I have valuable skills, but the mid-level healthcare worker designation doesn't necessarily travel outside the country well. Domestic stability seems like it would have been pretty cool to experience past my 20's.

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Posted
14 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

TIAs will cause sometimes some temporary speech difficulties

Like speaking with the vocabulary of a 5th grader with potty mouth?

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1 hour ago, hookem2010 said:

What was it like being able to confidently plan for the future? Especially as a Texas resident with two young kids, I find this incredibly difficult to do.

My wife and I have valuable skills, but the mid-level healthcare worker designation doesn't necessarily travel outside the country well. Domestic stability seems like it would have been pretty cool to experience past my 20's.

We’re in the same boat. It’s like, yeah we want to remodel the kitchen, but I think to myself, I’m not fucking spending money to remodel this place for some maga ss officer and his family that moves in

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Posted
4 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Cool

 

 

It's good to know we have a very steady hand on the tiller of government.  They will be showing this in poli sci classes in the future as an exemplar of how to de-escalate a crisis.  



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