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Posted
28 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Should add that I have no clue how to explain the behavior of the SS agents. Especially that one dude who got the cameras in position just in time. I mean, fuck. 

That wasn't a secret service agent. 

Posted
18 minutes ago, safe sex said:

He got nicked by some object when he was thrown to the ground. A cuff link or watch band or something. Old people bleed easy and they bleed a lot.

That makes a whole lot more sense than it wasn't a real assassination attempt.

Posted
14 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Thing is, he grabbed that ear before he went down. 

Because he got hit by a fragment from a ricochet. It wasn’t a serious injury, we’ve seen that from the after photos, and he didn’t bleed that much. 

Posted
1 minute ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Real assassination attempt, hit by a tiny piece of shrapnel, "protected" by a bunch of unprepared clowns, and there is no God is the most logical explanation. 

Um, I was told God personally intervened so Donald Trump could be president again.

It's science.

Posted
Just now, David Dennison said:

Um, I was told God personally intervened so Donald Trump could be president again.

It's science.

Funnily enough, that's the main reason why I believe there was no real investigation. Trump "taking a bullet" was the best optics for him, a ricochet from tiny piece of shrapnel would eliminate the God-like status. 

 

 

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Posted
28 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Ordinarily, I would agree with this.

But Trump has no scar on his ear.

And the Secret Service would never, ever, in a million years put him back into the line of fire like that.

Believing the official story requires an awful lot of assumptions, so you can put Occam's Razor away.  Whichever version is true is ridiculous and unbelievable.  But in a real shooting, the one thing that is 100% predictable is the Secret Service's response.  And that is not what we got.

So paint for us the picture of what you think happened. Who was involved in the planning? How was the shooter selected? Was he willing ready to die like an Al Qaeda suicide bomber just to get Trump elected? Did they decide on which cultist in the audience should die or was that just left up to random chance? Was Trump’s blood real or fake? Did the shooter get lucky to accidentally inflict damage or wax he a supremely skilled marksman willing to sacrifice his life in a phony assassination attempt?

Spin us a credible yarn on how your conspiracy theory might have played out.

Sorry, but ‘Secret Service never would’ve done that’ isn’t a sufficient explanation. How about this? It’s fucking Trump, they like him, and do as they’re told. Have you considered that maybe they didn’t do their job as well as they should have? Maybe because everything Trump touches dies?

Not everything is a conspiracy. Most things aren’t. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Let’s hear your story. 

Posted
25 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Which do you believe is more likely, that the 2024 election was rigged or that the Trump assassination was staged?

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Posted
1 minute ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Sorry, but ‘Secret Service never would’ve done that’ isn’t a sufficient explanation. How about this? It’s fucking Trump, they like him, and do as they’re told.

"If I ever get shot on stage, I want you to immediately prop me back up in the middle of the stage, behind the podium, so that we can get some great pictures."

Honestly it wouldn't be the weirdest thing he's ever said.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

By the way, if any of you false "patriots" want to know what an ACTUAL "oathkeeper" looks like, that's it.  That guy.  Our grandfathers took that oath, and they shot fascists in the face.  The oath hasn't changed.  The only thing that's changed is where the fascist authoritarians are.  

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Posted
9 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Sorry, but ‘Secret Service never would’ve done that’ isn’t a sufficient explanation. How about this? It’s fucking Trump, they like him, and do as they’re told. Have you considered that maybe they didn’t do their job as well as they should have? Maybe because everything Trump touches dies?

Agreed. 1. Trump hires the worst people, being shitty at your job is the norm 2. He is an authoritarian and it's mentally baked in with his employees that whatever Trump wants to do, let him do it. He was in control of that entire situation. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Not everything is a conspiracy. Most things aren’t. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Let’s hear your story. 

No shit.  I already said I'm generally the most anti-conspiracy guy in the room.

But the official story here has a ton of problems, which have already been pointed out.  You seem content to write that off as: dozens of highly trained professionals all made a shitload of mistakes on the same day.  Okay.  I would ordinarily agree with you, except that their mistakes and the resulting photo op just happened to be very good for an all-time con man.

All I'm saying is that in this instance, I don't have any more difficulty believing the conspiracy than the official story.  The whole thing is batshit crazy either way, and, stay with me here, Trump and his people are liars, cons, and masters of optics. 

So, yeah, I have questions when a con man gets a series of ridiculously lucky breaks right when he needed it the most.  That's all.

 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

So, yeah, I have questions when a con man gets a series of ridiculously lucky breaks right when he needed it the most.  That's all.

A lifelong conman who is in the professional wrestling hall of fame.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

A lifelong conman who is in the professional wrestling hall of fame.

like I said - it all fits together nicely when you frame is a work. A dude fucking died, so I'm inclined to believe it was a shoot. 

 

But bruh. That whole thing played like a custom show from WWE 2k

Posted
1 hour ago, TexArcher said:

Yeah, I don't know all the ins and outs and what-have-yous.

But I guess what I'm saying is that when a notorious con man is involved in something wildly unbelievable, it probably is.

I thought it was somewhat suspicious at the time.  Upon further review, I have a choice to believe that a kid was able to outwit dozens of members of one of the best security forces in the world, make his way to a relatively easy shot, then miss the shot by several inches, which happened to graze the president and create just enough blood for one of the all-time photo ops, with the Secret Service helping the once-and-future president back into the line of fire to facilitate it, etc. 

Or, the professional liars faked it.

This is the only conspiracy theory I can think of where it takes more leaps of faith to believe the official story than the conspiracy.  So, I think there very well might be something to it.

That's all very well put. 

And you think these monsters wouldn't kill one random innocent person to make their billions of dollars? LOL come on who's the gullible one here if you believe that?

Posted
6 minutes ago, Captainant said:

like I said - it all fits together nicely when you frame is a work. A dude fucking died, so I'm inclined to believe it was a shoot. 

 

But bruh. That whole thing played like a custom show from WWE 2k

I mean if you really want to put on a tinfoil hat consider the possibility of a second shooter who took care of an audience member to make the whole thing seem more real.  I don't really subscribe to that, just asking questions ya know.  

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Posted
1 hour ago, GreenspointTexas said:

Which do you believe is more likely, that the 2024 election was rigged or that the Trump assassination was staged?

Assassination staged for sure. By far.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, David Dennison said:

Happy Left Wing Conspiracy Theory Friday, y'all!

I will say that something is fishy about it.  I don't think the ear wound is consistent with a ballistic projectile and the whole fist-raising thing is pretty bizarre.

Of course, that's enough for MAGA to come up with all manner of wild conspiracy theories.  I'll just stop with "it's fishy."

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Posted
Just now, TwiceHorn said:

I will say that something is fishy about it.  I don't think the ear wound is consistent with a ballistic projectile and the whole fist-raising thing is pretty bizarre

Something else: Trump is a famous coward. And yet seconds after being shot by an assassin, he showed no desire at all to get off the stage. He didn't seem concerned at all that more bullets could be coming his way.

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Something else: Trump is a famous coward. And yet seconds after being shot by an assassin, he showed no desire at all to get off the stage. He didn't seem concerned at all that more bullets could be coming his way.

And how and why did the SS detail let a flabby old man up to even do that?

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