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59 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

They slapped a tariff on heavily-accented call center workers that need access to your computer to remove dangerous malware?

What's going to happened to Bob and Jim?

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3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

SCOTUS will issue an unsigned overruling by sundown.

This.  The same SC that said Biden didn't have the authority to forgive student loans will say Trump has 100% authority to do whatever he wants.  They've already done this on other issues.

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12 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

SCOTUS will issue an unsigned overruling by sundown.

 

11 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Yea why does anyone think this matters? Everything he does is illegal. He just says “make me” and then continues.

The NYT alert I just got says they can remain in place, despite being illegal. Because we live in fucking loony toons land. 

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2 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

 

The NYT alert I just got says they can remain in place, despite being illegal. Because we live in fucking loony toons land. 

This is my shocked face

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1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

Yea why does anyone think this matters? Everything he does is illegal. He just says “make me” and then continues.

And now we know the real reason the National Guard is already deployed in DC, and about to occupy major cities. 

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Love that the Admin's argument is going to be that if SCOTUS eliminates the tariffs, it will cost the US govt billions and billions to refund the tariff money. Yeah, MF. that's what happens when you enact an illegal tax/tariff knowing that it is most likely illegal. The refund amount isn't the problem of the courts.

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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2025-09-26/trump-100pc-tariff-on-drugs-us-politics-/105820198?future=true&

 

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The United States will impose a 100 per cent tariff on imports of branded or patented pharmaceutical products from October 1, unless a pharmaceutical company is building a manufacturing plant in the US, President Donald Trump said on Thursday.

"There will, therefore, be no Tariff on these pharmaceutical products if construction has started," Trump said on Truth Social.

Pharmaceutical drugs imported to the US were already slapped with a 25 per cent tariff in May.

 

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The US president said the new tariff on any branded or patented pharmaceutical product would apply to all imports unless the company had already broken ground on a manufacturing plant in the United States.

In July, Mr Trump threatened to hit drug manufacturers with a tariff as high as 200 per cent if they did not move manufacturing to the US. 

 

 

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I remember when several polls came out  during the Biden administration that most Americans thought it was wrong to use the justice department to go after political foes. Wonder what that same poll would say now. 

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Jore called this feeling of concern for the wellbeing of the agricultural economy “deja vu.” 

 

During Trump’s first administration, U.S. farmers lost $27 billion in agricultural exports between mid-2018 and 2019 as a result of a trade war with China, according to a 2022 report from the USDA. During that same period, the U.S. market share of Chinese soybean imports plummeted to a 30-year low of 19%, the ASA reported. Brazil’s market share reached its peak of 75%. Years later, U.S. soybean farmers have yet to fully recover, Todd Main, the director of market development at the Illinois Soybean Association, told Fortune.

 

“The takeaway that we have from the data of the last time we did this is that the U.S. lost about 20% of our market share, and it never came back,” Main said.

https://fortune.com/2025/09/25/the-frustration-is-overwhelming-soybean-farmers-feel-betrayed-as-argentina-blows-a-hole-in-rural-americas-47-billion-soybean-bonanza/

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China no longer buying American soybeans. They haven't bought any since May. Brazil and Argentina all too happy to pick up the slack.  A key GOP voting bloc, soybean farmers, is learning what tariffs are going to do to them right before the 2026 midterms.  

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/28/soybeans-sacrificed-in-trumps-china-gamble-00583232


Tariffs crushing small liquor stores in the U.S., as well as wineries and whiskey producers.  American whiskey producers are seeing far less demand for their product in China, Japan and Europe because those folks are voting with their pocketbooks. 


https://reason.com/2025/09/27/tariffs-are-starting-to-crush-americas-small-liquor-businesses




 

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29 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

China no longer buying American soybeans. They haven't bought any since May. Brazil and Argentina all too happy to pick up the slack.  A key GOP voting bloc, soybean farmers, is learning what tariffs are going to do to them right before the 2026 midterms.  

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/28/soybeans-sacrificed-in-trumps-china-gamble-00583232


Tariffs crushing small liquor stores in the U.S., as well as wineries and whiskey producers.  American whiskey producers are seeing far less demand for their product in China, Japan and Europe because those folks are voting with their pocketbooks. 


https://reason.com/2025/09/27/tariffs-are-starting-to-crush-americas-small-liquor-businesses




 

Don't worry.  The regime will just flat-out gift those farmers tax dollars to make up for buttfucking them.  Because, you know....party of fiscal responsibility, right fellas?

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1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

China no longer buying American soybeans. They haven't bought any since May. Brazil and Argentina all too happy to pick up the slack.  A key GOP voting bloc, soybean farmers, is learning what tariffs are going to do to them right before the 2026 midterms.  

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/28/soybeans-sacrificed-in-trumps-china-gamble-00583232

Trump offering a bailout to Argentina just for them to turn around and eat American soybean farming trumpers lunch is incredible. No notes. Let the face eating continue 

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17 minutes ago, immamac said:

When is the american consumer going to throw shit in the fan. 

Depends.   Is Survivor a repeat episode this week or a new one?  

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On 9/25/2025 at 8:06 PM, Francisco 2.0 said:


Doesn’t congress have to institute tariffs that are directly tied to national security? 

And somehow the national security issue goes away when they’re extorted into building a manufacturing plant?

Oh and I’m sure they have to actually build it? Or just say they will, making him look like he got a win, but really it’s just a show? 

Or maybe a ‘we’ll build it’ and nice donation to his slush fund?

I know. I know. 
Asking such stupid questions is just the same left wing Trump derangement syndrome.

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Not that I think it will matter, but Trump not being smart enough to stay within a lane that would make his unilateral usurping of Congressional tariff power more palatable to Roberts and company is at least some good news.   

He has no strategy and he has no nuance. He just has a variety of sledgehammers at his disposal that he picks up and uses with his mood changes.  But the way he is using those sledgehammers actually supports the legal position that he doesn’t have the power to do everything that he’s doing.

At some point the conservative Supremes might get a clue that he’s destroying the country more than they will allow for partisan dipshittery, which might mean a key vote or two in the future as things get worse prior to the Supreme Court’s consideration of the constitutionality of his tariff debacle.

See again, not that it will probably matter, but I’m looking for any faint sign of hope.  imagine if some smart Autocrat was in charge instead of that dip shit.

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On 9/28/2025 at 8:17 PM, Gatorubet said:

Not that I think it will matter, but Trump not being smart enough to stay within a lane that would make his unilateral usurping of Congressional tariff power more palatable to Roberts and company is at least some good news.   

He has no strategy and he has no nuance. He just has a variety of sledgehammers at his disposal that he picks up and uses with his mood changes.  But the way he is using those sledgehammers actually supports the legal position that he doesn’t have the power to do everything that he’s doing.

At some point the conservative Supremes might get a clue that he’s destroying the country more than they will allow for partisan dipshittery, which might mean a key vote or two in the future as things get worse prior to the Supreme Court’s consideration of the constitutionality of his tariff debacle.

See again, not that it will probably matter, but I’m looking for any faint sign of hope.  imagine if some smart Autocrat was in charge instead of that dip shit.

Nah, I think this court is stupid enough to ok a move that directly causes their own removal from office.  Eventually they will saw off the limb they're standing on, just like in Looney Tunes.

 

 

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On 9/28/2025 at 6:22 PM, Captainant said:

Trump offering a bailout to Argentina just for them to turn around and eat American soybean farming trumpers lunch is incredible. No notes. Let the face eating continue 

The soybean farmers have been replaced for good. China has been developing alternative trade partners for 4 or 5 years. US farmers know they're cooked, they're just not admitting or talking about it yet.

 

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1 hour ago, Chopper said:

The soybean farmers have been replaced for good. China has been developing alternative trade partners for 4 or 5 years. US farmers know they're cooked, they're just not admitting or talking about it yet.

 

And soybeans are just an easy example.

Add defense materiel to the list.  Add a shitload of things to the list.

When Party A shows -- under a bright shining spotlight of its own making -- that it is an unreliable, erratic, mercurial, spiteful trading partner.....then parties B through Z will respond rationally, and pursue a strategy of disentanglement from trade with Party A to the largest extent possible.

Imagine that you are an HEB loyalist -- good store to shop at, wide selection, good prices, open pretty much all the time (yeah, HEB is open!).  Then....HEB is acquired by new ownership.  They start closing at random with little warning, so your plan to pick up your groceries this Saturday gets crushed.  Then, when they ARE open, they close off random aisles, so you can't get your full list ("WTF?  You closed off the coffee/tea aisle, and the dairy section?  So now I have to go to another store for those?").  Also, they jacked up the prices on random items.  The package of chicken breasts that was $7.50 last week is now $15, the package of toilet paper that was $10 is now $20.  Again...when they're open.  Oh, and the store manager walks behind you, insulting you and calling you a cheater and a liar the entire time you shop.

I'm gonna guess that you're going to check out the nearby Randall's, or Sprouts, or what have you rather quickly, because HEB sounds like it fucking sucks to do business with now.

And when it comes to things like large-scale commodities, supply chains, and long-term contracts (you don't buy a fifth generation fighter plane to use for a year, you buy it to use for 25 years), Party A is not going to get those sales back, for a generation or longer.

We are destroying ourselves as a global trading partner.  For no fucking good reason at all.  It's fucking insanity, the harm is massive and irreparable.  And for fucking NOTHING.  We're lighting ourselves on fire for fucking NOTHING.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I'm gonna guess that you're going to check out the nearby Randall's, 

Slow your roll, counselor

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I was told that through hard work and ingenuity, poverty could be avoided.  If people weren't so fucking lazy, they wouldn't need handouts

 

Fucking Welfare Queens in Carhartt. 

 

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2 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

I was told that through hard work and ingenuity, poverty could be avoided.  If people weren't so fucking lazy, they wouldn't need handouts

 

Fucking Welfare Queens in Carhartt. 

 

We're dealing with the idiocy of an approach of "there are some flaws in a global free trade system, including the fact that certain people in certain economies do not get what they feel is a fair share of the benefits of that trade" [this is true, by the way], so the solution is "blow the whole fucking thing to smithereens."

It's the internet joke of solving the problem of a spider in your house by burning your entire house down.  

The house/global trade has brought us tremendous prosperity, jobs, and opportunity.  Yes, it has done so in ways that are uneven and require adjustments.  Any complex system will do that -- have pros and cons.  But when you look at the MASSIVE pros....and instead look right past them, to the cons, and looking ONLY at the cons, decide "let's trash the whole fucking thing," it's insanity. Truly, it's among the dumbest moves I've ever seen.

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15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

We're dealing with the idiocy of an approach of "there are some flaws in a global free trade system, including the fact that certain people in certain economies do not get what they feel is a fair share of the benefits of that trade" [this is true, by the way], so the solution is "blow the whole fucking thing to smithereens."

It's the internet joke of solving the problem of a spider in your house by burning your entire house down.  

The house/global trade has brought us tremendous prosperity, jobs, and opportunity.  Yes, it has done so in ways that are uneven and require adjustments.  Any complex system will do that -- have pros and cons.  But when you look at the MASSIVE pros....and instead look right past them, to the cons, and looking ONLY at the cons, decide "let's trash the whole fucking thing," it's insanity. Truly, it's among the dumbest moves I've ever seen.

It's basically the equivalent of letting the moutbreathers on the football board pick the UT offense.  Oh, that wide receiver screen didn't work?  We are scrapping the entire offense, going back to a wishbone (but we are only using white players, because brown skin players give us the ick) and the 46 defense (again, with only honkies). Everything else stays the same, tho.  Ohio State still has Jeremiah Smith and Caleb Downs. and all their current players.  Still runs a modern passing offense with tempo. 

 

And just like in that scenerio, there is initially some disruption as people adjust.  Then you start wondering why we are losing by 50 in everygame. 

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