Brett Kavanaugh Confirmation Thread

[retread 2,951]

Rs have no shame. Turtle is a vile human being.

Edited September 24, 2018 by retread

[Chad Fuck 17,259]

4 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

McConnell currently on the Senate floor crying about the Kavanaugh being treated unfairly.

 

[RomaVicta 29,472]

8 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

Ffs

 

Yeah, man, but she was drunk. Apply the Baylor rule. She deserves no consideration.

If Kavanaugh did all this shit, it will be a pleasure watching it bite him at his potentially highest moment. He learned to act with impunity as a young man, so who knows what he has been capable of since then. Just the kind of man the Trump party wants on the Supreme Court at their beck and call. 

Slimeball.

[Hank Kingsley 19,819]

Here's some nightmare fuel.

[hayden_horn 11,311]

6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

McConnell currently on the Senate floor crying about the Kavanaugh being treated unfairly.

He doesn’t have the votes.

Otherwise he wouldn’t be bitching so much.

hey, mitch, you fake human being devoid of any sort of moral fabric, this is what happens when you sow the whirlwind, asshat. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13,267]

8 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

McConnell currently on the Senate floor crying about the Kavanaugh being treated unfairly.

He doesn’t have the votes.

Otherwise he wouldn’t be bitching so much.

This can't be real.  McConnell is seriously whining about someone else and ends justifying the means?  That is the only reason Gorsuch is on the bench right now.

[RomaVicta 29,472]

7 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

McConnell currently on the Senate floor crying about the Kavanaugh being treated unfairly.

He doesn’t have the votes.

Otherwise he wouldn’t be bitching so much.

 

3 minutes ago, retread said:

Rs have no shame. Turtle is a vile human being.

 

2 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

 

Lying, shameless cunts the lot of them. This is as revealing as the Russia investigation. The GOP is rotten to the core. They've become what they claim the Dems are morally.

[Chuckie Finster 22,252]

9 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

McConnell currently on the Senate floor crying about the Kavanaugh being treated unfairly.

 He doesn’t have the votes.

Otherwise he wouldn’t be bitching so much.

Donald Trump is an awful human being because he has a personality disorder and knows no other way.

Mitch McConnell is an awful human being because he has calculated that it works in his favor politically.  I'd argue that's worse.  

[triplehorn 2,664]

Avenatti telling Politico his client will go public with an on-camera interview and more details of accusations against Kavanaugh in the next 48 hours

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

Ffs

 

I already read it.  Here are two points I think a cross examiner might focus on:

"She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections"

"Ramirez was chosen repeatedly, she said, and quickly became inebriated. At one point, she said, a male student pointed a gag plastic penis in her direction. Later, she said, she was on the floor, foggy and slurring her words."

Witnesses that have expressed uncertainty about 35 year old events and only remember more clearly after coaching, who have told others that they are not sure about their accusations, and who by their own admission were lying on the floor drunk, foggy, and slurring their words during the event, typically are not considered ideal.  I think most would agree that this is a less than ideal witness.  

[Chad Fuck 17,259]

1 minute ago, triplehorn said:

Avenatti telling Politico his client will go public with an on-camera interview and more details of accusations against Kavanaugh in the next 48 hours

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,245]

It’s looking like they’re going full pivot to blame the democrats and make Kavanaugh the martyr of politically motivated smear campaign.

['stache 21,489]

43 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Fringes run both parties. Corporations and large private donors run both fringes....

Sorry, but the right lost the "both sides" argument when they nominated, elected, and continue to stand by the dotard and everything he stands for taking over the party.  There's plenty of shit on the left, but nothing even remotely compares to what the right is currently doing to our country.  The hypocrisy is so transparent there's not even plausible deniability (for example, deficits matters when it's the democrats but don't matter now because tax cuts!!).  Just stop with "both sides."  The right loves its demagogue and its unlike anything we've ever seen.

[lemonlime 5,482]

1 minute ago, Aphelion said:

I already read it.  Here are two points I think a cross examiner might focus on:

"She was at first hesitant to speak publicly, partly because her memories contained gaps because she had been drinking at the time of the alleged incident. In her initial conversations with The New Yorker, she was reluctant to characterize Kavanaugh’s role in the alleged incident with certainty. After six days of carefully assessing her memories and consulting with her attorney, Ramirez said that she felt confident enough of her recollections"

"Ramirez was chosen repeatedly, she said, and quickly became inebriated. At one point, she said, a male student pointed a gag plastic penis in her direction. Later, she said, she was on the floor, foggy and slurring her words."

Witnesses that have expressed uncertainty about 35 year old events and only remember more clearly after coaching, who have told others that they are not sure about their accusations, and who by their own admission were lying on the floor drunk, foggy, and slurring their words during the event, typically are not considered ideal.  I think most would agree that this is a less than ideal witness.  

You lied about there not being corroboration.  The New Yorker authors had corroboration from witnesses who were told about the event at the time.  Which you completely discount. 

 

And now you're victim blaming.  And apparently Kavanaugh, who by all accounts was also drunk, gets every benefit of your doubt, while you heap doubt on the alleged victim.

 

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17 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

McConnell currently on the Senate floor crying about the Kavanaugh being treated unfairly.

He doesn’t have the votes.

Otherwise he wouldn’t be bitching so much.

he can diaf

[Onboard 2.0 9,083]

1 minute ago, 'stache said:

Sorry, but the right lost the "both sides" argument when they nominated, elected, and continue to stand by the dotard and everything he stands for taking over the party.  There's plenty of shit on the left, but nothing even remotely compares to what the right is currently doing to our country.  The hypocrisy is so transparent there's not even plausible deniability (for example, deficits matters when it's the democrats but don't matter now because tax cuts!!).  Just stop with "both sides."  The right loves its demagogue and its unlike anything we've ever seen.

Hillary fucking Clinton, now piss off.

[Anastasis 23,191]

19 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

 

He's trolling right?

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3 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

You lied about there not being corroboration.  The New Yorker authors had corroboration from witnesses who were told about the event at the time.  Which you completely discount. 

 

And now you're victim blaming.  And apparently Kavanaugh, who by all accounts was also drunk, gets every benefit of your doubt, while you heap doubt on the alleged victim.

 

I didn't lie.  I said there were no direct eyewitnesses.  Here is a quote from the article you linked (since you haven't bothered to read it):

"The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party.

[Huckleberry 32,139]

1 minute ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Hillary fucking Clinton, now piss off.

You should probably stop to consider the fact that right now it is starting to look like Hillary Clinton might ultimately destroy the Republican Party as we knew it. Not directly, of course, but the illogical and all-consuming hate for her that hurried the GOP down the path to Donald Trump will have been the party's undoing. All that hate, all that anger, and she still wins. Good work.

[atomheartbevo 88,750]

14 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

hey, mitch, you fake human being devoid of any sort of moral fabric, this is what happens when you sow the whirlwind, asshat. 

Was Mitch the one who wanted the voters to decide on Merrick Garland?

[Huckleberry 32,139]

Just now, Aphelion said:

I didn't lie.  I said there were no direct eyewitnesses.  Here is a quote from the article you linked (since you haven't bothered to read it):

"The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party.

Your position is that everyone accused of participating in a sexual assault is denying it. Do you find that interesting?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,245]

1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

You should probably stop to consider the fact that right now it is starting to look like Hillary Clinton might ultimately destroy the Republican Party as we knew it. Not directly, of course, but the illogical and all-consuming hate for her that hurried the GOP down the path to Donald Trump will have been the party's undoing. All that hate, all that anger, and she still wins. Good work.

“Always remember others may hate you but those who hate you don't win unless you hate them. And then you destroy yourself.”

- Richard Nixon 1974 White House Farewell Address 

[lemonlime 5,482]

4 minutes ago, Aphelion said:

I didn't lie.  I said there were no direct eyewitnesses.  Here is a quote from the article you linked (since you haven't bothered to read it):

"The New Yorker has not confirmed with other eyewitnesses that Kavanaugh was present at the party. The magazine contacted several dozen classmates of Ramirez and Kavanaugh regarding the incident. Many did not respond to interview requests; others declined to comment, or said they did not attend or remember the party.

You said they were looking for corroboration.  Apparently they didn't take iphone video of the sexual assault in the 1980s.  So I guess we should just completely discount what the alleged victim said and the people who were told about the assault in 1980whatever obviously anticipating that 40 years later Kavanuagh would be a Supreme Court nominee.

[Lagunamadre 1,975]

18 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Here's some nightmare fuel.

I need to do one of those smile things. Shit, how do I do that. Flex cheek muscles, I think. Man it's been a while. OK, here we go, let's give it a shot, one, two, three...FLEX. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,245]

 

[Patrick Bateman 3,851]

5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

You should probably stop to consider the fact that right now it is starting to look like Hillary Clinton might ultimately destroy the Republican Party as we knew it. Not directly, of course, but the illogical and all-consuming hate for her that hurried the GOP down the path to Donald Trump will have been the party's undoing. All that hate, all that anger, and she still wins. Good work.

This is the truly ironic part.... They're going to let Donald Trump destroy their party for a decade or more because they nominated an ego maniac child as President..... however, they'll have "but Hillary" to keep them warm as they're wandering the desert starting in 2020.  The rationale to win at any cost as a response to Obama is also part of the creation of their problems.  

[hayden_horn 11,311]

9 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Was Mitch the one who wanted the voters to decide on Merrick Garland?

Quote

McConnell's comments came after a pledge he made last month that the Senate would take no action on the nomination, setting the stage for a political fight. McConnell said Wednesday that the "the decision the Senate made weeks ago remains about a principle, not a person."

"It seems clear President Obama made this nomination not, not with the intent of seeing the nominee confirmed, but in order to politicize it for purposes of the election," McConnell said.

"I believe the overwhelming view of the Republican Conference in the Senate is that this nomination should not be filled, this vacancy should not be filled by this lame duck president," McConnell said.

"The American people are perfectly capable of having their say on this issue, so let's give them a voice. Let's let the American people decide. The Senate will appropriately revisit the matter when it considers the qualifications of the nominee the next president nominates, whoever that might be," McConnell said.

https://www.npr.org/2016/03/16/470664561/mcconnell-blocking-supreme-court-nomination-about-a-principle-not-a-person

 

[Guest]

5 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Your position is that everyone accused of participating in a sexual assault is denying it. Do you find that interesting?

I don't find much interest in a really crappy mischaracterization of my position.  But at least you don't immediately accuse one of lying as a primitive defense mechanism.  In fact I don't ever recall you doing so.  

[SubliminalHorn 6,326]

18 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Hillary fucking Clinton, now piss off.

Oh there goes OnBoard. Couldn’t help himself but acknowledge that Hillary still rents space in his head. 

[bad_teammate 13,018]

5 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

[sachick 1,189]

25 minutes ago, triplehorn said:

Avenatti telling Politico his client will go public with an on-camera interview and more details of accusations against Kavanaugh in the next 48 hours

I need him to wait until tomorrow. I have a business evening ubering my kids to cheer practice and a den meeting. Tomorrow works much better for me.

[JimmyJames 12,267]

Mitch complaining about the nomination process being unfair while trump laments the poor woe is me plight of a fellow pussy grabber is just too much. It’s interesting watching a party destroy itself for decades to come. 

[jimmyjazz 45,055]

24 minutes ago, Onboard 2.0 said:

Hillary fucking Clinton, now piss off.

You'd be a lot better person if Hillary Clinton had been your mother.

[Huckleberry 32,139]

9 minutes ago, Aphelion said:

I don't find much interest in a really crappy mischaracterization of my position.  But at least you don't immediately accuse one of lying as a primitive defense mechanism.  In fact I don't ever recall you doing so.  

I didn't mischaracterize your position. You have now made multiple posts focusing on the fact that the only alleged direct eyewitnesses who responded state that it didn't happen. That is completely uninformative given that they are accused of participating in a sexual assault. My question to you is why you seem to be hung up on that fact to the point of believing it calls into question the credibility of the allegation. A denial calls into question the credibility of an accusation exactly as much as the allegation calls into question the credibility of the denial. So I ask again, do you find a denial of a sexual assault claim interesting?

[Anastasis 23,191]

12 minutes ago, Patrick Bateman said:

This is the truly ironic part.... They're going to let Donald Trump destroy their party for a decade or more...

I'll take the over. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,245]

 

Weird he would go on Fox News

 

Edited September 24, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[tantric superman 4,667]

5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

You'd be a lot better person if Hillary Clinton had been your mother. 

Onboard might have gone to Stanford with Chelsea!

[happyfunball 481]

Republicans are going all in on this nomination. Either Kavanaugh will be confirmed no matter what facts come out or a vote is forced to penalize swing state R and Ds for not supporting. 

This seems to be a terrible strategy but forces party loyalty in that it shows that R leadership is ready to light the house on fire if need be.

Edited September 24, 2018 by happyfunball

[Js1 82,350]

LMAO

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"It seems clear President Obama made this nomination not, not with the intent of seeing the nominee confirmed, but in order to politicize it for purposes of the election," McConnell said.

Right. He just should have done nothing after Scalia died.

He also picked the most milquetoast moderate candidate who could be confirmed. He would have barely to the left of Kennedy and to the right of Breyer.  Its not like he tried to nominate Kagan 2.0.

[Anastasis 23,191]

Just now, Huckleberry said:

I didn't mischaracterize your position. You have now made multiple posts focusing on the fact that the only alleged direct eyewitnesses who responded state that it didn't happen. That is completely uninformative given that they are accused of participating in a sexual assault. My question to you is why you seem to be hung up on that fact to the point of believing it calls into question the credibility of the allegation. A denial calls into question the credibility of an accusation exactly as much as the allegation calls into question the credibility of the denial. So I ask again, do you find a denial of a sexual assault claim interesting?

PJ as well as the female that Ford named were witnesses that could place Kavanaugh at the party with Ford. They are not accused of participating in sexual assault, and they all say that the party didn't happen. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,245]

4 minutes ago, happyfunball said:

vote is forced to penalize swing state R and Ds for not supporting. 

This is not a good idea for Republicans.

I’m not sure Ted Cruz wants to make sure he gets it on the record he voted for or against Kavanaugh in a meaningless vote. 

Edited September 24, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Huckleberry 32,139]

1 minute ago, Anastasis said:

PJ as well as the female that Ford named were witnesses that could place Kavanaugh at the party with Ford. They are not accused of participating in sexual assault, and they all say that the party didn't happen. 

I think (or thought) we were talking about the Deborah Ramírez accusation. If that's the case, then the only people who could be direct eyewitnesses would have been in the room during the sexual assault and are therefore probably, at a minimum, accomplices.

Edited September 24, 2018 by Huckleberry

[Anastasis 23,191]

Just now, Huckleberry said:

I think (or thought) we were talking about the Deborah Ramírez accusation.

I may have fucked that up. Multitasking conference call and shit. Can someone clarify which of the sexual assault allegations we are talking about. [/yesthatiswhereweareat]

Edited September 24, 2018 by Anastasis

[sachick 1,189]

3 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

PJ as well as the female that Ford named were witnesses that could place Kavanaugh at the party with Ford. They are not accused of participating in sexual assault, and they all say that the party didn't happen. 

They say the party didn't happen or they don't recall a party? Big difference. I don't doubt that they wouldn't remember a party one summer if nothing remarkable happened to them.

[Ghost of LL 15,225]

I love the smell of "but Hillary" in the morning.  Smells like . . . victory.

[yoladu 4,040]

17 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

where i have seen this before... it's bugging me.. oh yeah.

 

 

eerily similar.

Edited September 24, 2018 by yoladu

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[Mack Tripper 691]

2 hours ago, triplehorn said:

 

Oh yeah, what about the Franklin Mint?? She ever work there?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23,245]

McConnell never tweets this much.

Panic mode

 

Edited September 24, 2018 by Hugo Stiglitz

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Can you tweet on a jitterbug phone?