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i assume most everyone has seen clips of these by now. in the latest version, one doctor takes on 20 anti-vaxxers. on the one hand, i am so thankful that we have people like dr.mike to calmly explain why things like science aré important. on the other hand, goddamn these videos make me feel like gen z is a lost cause.

 

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I have never heard or seen any of these things and still haven't because I don't want to click on your link based on your description.

I am just posting because I'm wondering how the word Jubilee got used in this context. I understood Jubilee differently, as a word and definition (a sort of reset or forgiving of debts that occurs every 25 years or something like that).

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17 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I have never heard or seen any of these things and still haven't because I don't want to click on your link based on your description.

I am just posting because I'm wondering how the word Jubilee got used in this context. I understood Jubilee differently, as a word and definition (a sort of reset or forgiving of debts that occurs every 25 years or something like that).

Jubilee Media is the production company behind these videos. Jason Y. Lee founded the company in 2010. 

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17 minutes ago, Derka said:

then there’s this guy: extremely passionate, sees himself as some sort of intellectual or academic, can’t form a single coherent thought:

https://x.com/jubileemedia/status/1906403560134512916?s=46

 

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I tried to watch this yesterday, because I like Dr. Mike's approach in his videos.  I had to give up after this guy took the seat.  He was completely incoherent and made me want to smash my monitor.  "I have brief access to a broadcast platform, so let me take this opportunity to mention every issue I have a crackpot theory about rather than make a single logical argument."  

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21 hours ago, Derka said:

then there’s this guy: extremely passionate, sees himself as some sort of intellectual or academic, can’t form a single coherent thought:

https://x.com/jubileemedia/status/1906403560134512916?s=46

 

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I made it about 25 minutes into the video. This guy is is a fucking perfect example. 'Vaccines suck, but the real problem is that the white man took this country and we need to commune with the earth."

Ok, guy, great, but the discussion is vaccines and you're talking about nothing related to actual vaccines. Every snippet I saw was some version of this. "But my unvaccinated kids are healthy." The doctor wasted his time completely. And yes, this country is turbofucked. 

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The feel-good inclusivity politics of the last thirty years are a big part of why we are now dealing with conspiracy theorists who are confident enough to espouse idiotic bullshit to anyone who will listen.  They genuinely believe that they are reading and doing research because they have no fucking clue what that means.   I know the Internet and social media provide a platform, but if we adequately shamed stupid people for being stupid none of this would be happening.  Instead, we pass kids along who can't read, convince certain folks (mainly white suburban kids) that they are intelligent because they score high on really easy standardized exams, and generally coddle morons of all stripes.   Maybe it's time to bring back the judgmental shaming of kids.  At the very least, start failing the kids who are too stupid to pass our embarrassingly easy public school classes instead of passing every single one of them along.   At least then, they'll know they're stupid and/or lazy and will have the opportunity to do something about it instead of just meandering into adulthood with misguided notions of their own intelligence. 

TLDR: We would have fewer stupid adults if we started telling stupid kids they're stupid again.  Put that on a red hat. 

 

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When Joe Rogan and the bro-sphere are the most popular form of media and 90% of American’s spend hours a day on Facebook, YouTube, and tiktok believing every idiotic thing they see we end up here. 

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Dialogue is going the way of the dodo bird. This debate culture is fucking terrible and gets us absolutely nowhere. 

 

 

Unfortunately, giving an idiot a seat at debate gives credibility that their point of view has merit.  No, you don't get to debate that 1 + 1 = potato. Fuck off.

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2 hours ago, crash_davis said:

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the only idiots are the ones not doing their own research.  there's a wealth of valuable information on tiktok and facebook covering important topics such as these and if you're not doing the work then you're the idiot.

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1 hour ago, Samson's Wig said:

The feel-good inclusivity politics of the last thirty years are a big part of why we are now dealing with conspiracy theorists who are confident enough to espouse idiotic bullshit to anyone who will listen.  They genuinely believe that they are reading and doing research because they have no fucking clue what that means.   I know the Internet and social media provide a platform, but if we adequately shamed stupid people for being stupid none of this would be happening.  Instead, we pass kids along who can't read, convince certain folks (mainly white suburban kids) that they are intelligent because they score high on really easy standardized exams, and generally coddle morons of all stripes.   Maybe it's time to bring back the judgmental shaming of kids.  At the very least, start failing the kids who are too stupid to pass our embarrassingly easy public school classes instead of passing every single one of them along.   At least then, they'll know they're stupid and/or lazy and will have the opportunity to do something about it instead of just meandering into adulthood with misguided notions of their own intelligence. 

TLDR: We would have fewer stupid adults if we started telling stupid kids they're stupid again.  Put that on a red hat. 

 

 

tldr: We suffer fools gladly. We shouldn't suffer fools at all. 

 

 

 

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On the plus side, American society and governance is being remade in such a way that fools who believe bullshit on the intardnet will sort themselves out of the biosphere in fairly quick order.  See West Texas measles outbreak.

If they don't, well... I guess they will prove they were right all along.

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Regarding, people should do their research. While I get the sentiment, the problem is that when someone is a novice/beginner to a topic... with how chaotic the internet can be, it's not a sure thing what people are researching is accurate. 

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6 minutes ago, YChang said:

Regarding, people should do their research. While I get the sentiment, the problem is that when someone is a novice/beginner to a topic... with how chaotic the internet can be, it's not a sure thing what people are researching is accurate. 

They read some spam on Facebook/Instagram/TikTok/whateverthefuck. Research done. Now they are smarter than doctors.

The dumb cunt mom who lost her kid to measles was still saying measles isn't that bad and people shouldn't get the vaccine. Fuck stupid people. Fuck social media which allows stupid people to find each other and unify in their stupidity.

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3 hours ago, Samson's Wig said:

Maybe it's time to bring back the judgmental shaming of kids

PERFECT - I'm in

All your crotch fruits are fucking regarded. Socially and intellectually.

I texted my 18 year old nephew after I got his HS graduation announcement and asked him if this was a joke, because there's no way his pot smoking dumbass is actually graduating HS, unless all his finals were watching Youtube videos. 

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We are minutes away from a widespread movement to ban airplanes, because they are fake news, everyone knows that things with wings cannot get off the ground unless those wings flap. Watch the birds, watch the butterflies, DO YOUR RESEARCH.  Your bullshit about "camber" and "lift" are utter bullshit that BigAirplane wants us to believe.  But I know what's real and true, and what's real and true is that wings don't make things fly unless they flap.  We need to ban all airplanes right now, because they are doomed to kill everyone who gets on one.

Stupidity is one thing.  There have always been loads of stupid people.  It's the WEAPONIZED stupidity, full-Dunning/Kruger stupidity, that's killing us.  And "weaponized stupidity" is our national model right now, so...yeah, we're beyond fucked.

We will be banning chlorine in water soon, too.  Just wait for it.

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40 minutes ago, YChang said:

Regarding, people should do their research. While I get the sentiment, the problem is that when someone is a novice/beginner to a topic... with how chaotic the internet can be, it's not a sure thing what people are researching is accurate. 

The optimist in my is clinging to the chance that @futureman was demonstrating a smidge of sarcasm with his comment...  I could easily be wrong.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

We are minutes away from a widespread movement to ban airplanes, because they are fake news, everyone knows that things with wings cannot get off the ground unless those wings flap. Watch the birds, watch the butterflies, DO YOUR RESEARCH.  Your bullshit about "camber" and "lift" are utter bullshit that BigAirplane wants us to believe.  But I know what's real and true, and what's real and true is that wings don't make things fly unless they flap.  We need to ban all airplanes right now, because they are doomed to kill everyone who gets on one.

 

Don't forget that those fucking things shrink as they get higher, and plain old common sense tells you that is impossible.  It has to be some kind of mirage trickery, probably some secret DOD stuff harvested from alien tech they won't tell us about. 

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The problem with the "did my own research" and "common sense uber alles" crowd is that they've never grasped the age-old principle that the breadth of one's knowledge always limits one's logic and reason.   If you know very little about something, or research incorrect information about a topic, lots of wrong things will seem perfectly reasonable to the point you would swear up and down you must be right.  I made the joke in my last post about airplanes getting smaller as they get higher, and that comes from an old story that illustrates this point well.   A kid who has never flown before watches from the airport window as planes take off and disappear into the sky.  Once she's on board her flight, she turns to her mom and asks, "When do we start shrinking?"    It's a perfectly logical and reasonable presumption based on the kids' limited knowledge, but it's also completely wrong. 

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4 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

It's a perfectly logical and reasonable presumption based on the kids' limited knowledge, but it's also completely wrong. 

You sound like a whore for Big Airplane.  You should do your research.  Here, watch these five videos made by complete fucking crackpots, and treat them as the end-all, be-all authority on the subject:   (BLAH BLAH BLAH)

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When our society has fully embraced postmodernism, along with a significant regression in critical thinking skills, you have a recipe for the disaster that had put this country on a downhill ride into dysfunction and mediocrity.

Your relative truth becomes undebatable and there have been plenty of people during your “development”, including and largely due to social media, that tell you that you are the center of the universe and you should reject every commonality or institution (like evidenced based medicine) that may have caused some grievance or perceived injustice for somebody, somewhere, at some time.

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Is there any evidence today’s 18-23 year olds are actually dumber than a decade ago or two or three? Let’s be real, this age range has never known shit about fuck but thought it did.

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On 4/3/2025 at 7:31 AM, mdmost said:

They don't know shit about fuck with extreme confidence. 

beyond that, the biggest thing about gen z is that they think that everything/everyone who came before them is dumb, outdated, and irrelevant. they could choose to learn everything about everything. the amount of information that’s available to them is almost unfathomable, and yet they know less about what came before them than any group of people ever, because to them, if it’s older than they are, it doesn’t matter. they’re so, so arrogant, and oddly proud to be so ignorant of history. these kids are so fucked. 

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On 5/26/2025 at 12:45 AM, Derka said:

beyond that, the biggest thing about gen z is that they think that everything/everyone who came before them is dumb, outdated, and irrelevant. they could choose to learn everything about everything. the amount of information that’s available to them is almost unfathomable, and yet they know less about what came before them than any group of people ever, because to them, if it’s older than they are, it doesn’t matter. they’re so, so arrogant, and oddly proud to be so ignorant of history. these kids are so fucked. 

Meh. There's something in our human wiring where every generation acts like that to one degree or another. 

The truth is that an element of ignorance is required for almost any action to take place. We have to discount what came before us to go to somewhere new. And being ignorant of the consequences of this new path is often helpful to actually taking steps towards that path. Unfortunately, sometimes that path leads to going over a cliff. 

But we're purposefully wired to create independence from what came before us. There is also the need to synthesize, so that happens too. 

I think the huge difference now is that our evolutionary methods of socialization don't work the same way any more. There have been challenges previously. When we moved from small hunter gatherer tribes subsisting on the edge of extermination in East Africa, feeding off bone marrow after the apex predators and the carrion eaters had their fill, to larger multi family tribes who shared oral traditions and passed down knowledge from one generation to the next in a way that had never been done by any other species, to larger city states with their domesticated food sources, to the invention of writing, to horses, ships, roads, and various empires, fast forward to the printing press, and the various speeds in communication.

With social media we now have a world where no matter how outlandish your views, there's a community out there that shares it. We all have this push/pull of separating ourselves from a community so we can better understand who we are outside the confines of that identity, but also craving the connection and shared meaning that comes with being a part of something bigger than ourselves as an individual. With social media, no matter how toxic those views are, we can find a community that shares that same toxicity - thrives on it, even - and so we can have both.

A big example, and I use it often, is there are online communities devoted to suicide. If someone googles "how can I kill myself" or other thoughts on suicide, a message board/chat room comes up in the search algorithm. In there, people ostensibly offering help, providing a sympathetic ear, are actually jockeying for who will be the person who convinces the latest victim to pull the trigger and kill themselves. This is horrific, and they know this. But they are socializing each other to engage in this activity by their shared actions. 

Think of it this way. Let's say 10% of the population is born with psychopathy - the innate inability to empathize with others. Raised in a certain environment, they will learn to mimic empathy, even though they don't feel it themselves, in an attempt to fit in with those around them. 

Here's a decent article about a neurologist who discovered he's a psychopath. He wrote a book about it.

The Neuroscientist Who Discovered He Was a Psychopath

Social media has "helped" us leapfrog evolutionary mechanisms to assist us in living together. We're not evolutionarily designed to live in large groups. We're evolutionarily designed to live in small groups. Say, less than 50, but probably even way less than that. We were just such a successful species we grew larger co-habitation environments, and adopted strategies to co-exist. But by and large we still have huge genocidal tendencies. We instinctually bond by identifying other enemy tribes. It's as simple as rooting for similar sports teams while hating our rivals. Or being annoyed when an android user joins a group chat and the text turns from blue to green. Or demonizing the opposing political group. 

What keeps that from happening to some degree is the socialization process. We resent the socialization process. It feels like it diminishes our free will by compelling us to take on the values of those around us. We feel like ants in a hive. But without a socialization process we have break downs in social order, as various tribes within a larger construct start competing with one another for resources in internecine warfare. What propels those individual tribes to form is linking together to identify common enemies. Often times extreme views can produce the most extreme loyalty to the tribe. They're identification markers. More moderate view holders tend to have a looser connection where the bonds aren't as strong.

So what we're seeing with this generation as much as anything are dynamics as old as humanity itself, exacerbated by technology and the breakdown of traditional socialization techniques. 

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Hot take: debate is an inferior, pre-literate way to synthesize information and decide between alternatives that has been filtered through 19th century entertainment culture. Winning a debate is not the same thing as presenting the best position. 
 

Jordan Peterson is fascinating to me. His whole schtick was telling boys how to pull their shit together and learn to function and then he very publicly crashed out in a spectacular way. I thought that would be the end of him. 

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14 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Hot take: debate is an inferior, pre-literate way to synthesize information and decide between alternatives that has been filtered through 19th century entertainment culture. Winning a debate is not the same thing as presenting the best position. 
 

Jordan Peterson is fascinating to me. His whole schtick was telling boys how to pull their shit together and learn to function and then he very publicly crashed out in a spectacular way. I thought that would be the end of him. 

I don't really think that's much of a hot take. Most serious people don't consider debate an even decent way to arrive at any kind of truth.

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On 4/2/2025 at 1:28 PM, Js1 said:

PERFECT - I'm in

All your crotch fruits are fucking regarded. Socially and intellectually.

I texted my 18 year old nephew after I got his HS graduation announcement and asked him if this was a joke, because there's no way his pot smoking dumbass is actually graduating HS, unless all his finals were watching Youtube videos. 

You joke, but this shit happens. My son was failing 2 classes his senior year, mostly because he's lazy and likes to sleep in till 10am. The HS sent a notice to his mother (my ex) about his failing status and that he might not graduate. She dragged her attorney up to the principals office and threatened to sue the school district and him personally if he wasn't allowed to graduate. TLDR: he graduated without bringing his grades up.

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On 4/2/2025 at 8:23 PM, Newdoc said:

When our society has fully embraced postmodernism, along with a significant regression in critical thinking skills, you have a recipe for the disaster that had put this country on a downhill ride into dysfunction and mediocrity.

Your relative truth becomes undebatable and there have been plenty of people during your “development”, including and largely due to social media, that tell you that you are the center of the universe and you should reject every commonality or institution (like evidenced based medicine) that may have caused some grievance or perceived injustice for somebody, somewhere, at some time.

 

I think you all overestimate human critical thinking. 90% of people pre-industrial revolution believed all sorts of stupid shit. Today, we have a much higher base knowledge but 90% of people still believe all sorts of stupid shit. Go backward or forward 1000 years and there will still be a giant idiocracy.

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On 4/1/2025 at 11:30 AM, Guadaloopy said:

I tried to watch this yesterday, because I like Dr. Mike's approach in his videos.  I had to give up after this guy took the seat.  He was completely incoherent and made me want to smash my monitor.  "I have brief access to a broadcast platform, so let me take this opportunity to mention every issue I have a crackpot theory about rather than make a single logical argument."  

This is the kind of treatment most of MAGA deserves.

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55 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

This is the kind of treatment most of MAGA deserves.

Oh for fuck's sake, he sounds just like a lot of liberals. You guys get so bloated sniffing farts in your CR echobubble that you just assume everyone on your side of the fence must be educated and debate team captains.

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5 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

Oh for fuck's sake, he sounds just like a lot of liberals. You guys get so bloated sniffing farts in your CR echobubble that you just assume everyone on your side of the fence must be educated and debate team captains.

Lmao explain how you dumb fuck

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19 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

Oh for fuck's sake, he sounds just like a lot of liberals. You guys get so bloated sniffing farts in your CR echobubble that you just assume everyone on your side of the fence must be educated and debate team captains.

haha you mad bro?

Your team is stupid as fuck, I don't know what to tell you.  Your team won the election because of stupid fucks like this.

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10 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Lmao explain how you dumb fuck

Attempting to explain anything to a dumb worthless cunt like you is a complete waste of time.

Just now, TwiceHorn said:

haha you mad bro?

Your team is stupid as fuck, I don't know what to tell you.

Just like your team, dipshit. 

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Just now, rage-a-holic said:

Attempting to explain anything to a dumb worthless cunt like you is a complete waste of time.

Yeah that's what I fuckin thought, you complete and utter pussy.

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Just now, Brian Fantana said:

Yeah that's what I fuckin thought, you complete and utter pussy.

lol, you are literally the biggest cunt on this site, no one besides captaincunt is even close. Not sure why you weren't on ignore before, but buh bye.

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2 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

Attempting to explain anything to a dumb worthless cunt like you is a complete waste of time.

Just like your team, dipshit. 

My team was smart enough to recognize an idiot, criminal, threat to democracy and the American way of life.  And vote for anyone else.

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1 minute ago, rage-a-holic said:

lol, you are literally the biggest cunt on this site, no one besides captaincunt is even close. Not sure why you weren't on ignore before, but buh bye.

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I can't defend my position so now I'm gonna put you on ignore wah wah wah

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