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2 hours ago, William Bludworth said:

The loss to Napier was so bad, we literally dropped out of the AP poll #9 to #27 😂😂😂

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That Florida upended Texas is a surprise, to be sure, but not like realizing the guy from "White Lotus" also played Uncle Rico in "Napoleon Dynamite." We could, after all, have seen this coming. Billy Napier is college football's Jason Voorhees -- drown, hacked, flambéed and forced to watch all the entire DVD collection of "According to Jim," and yet he keeps coming back. Napier cannot be felled by conventional weapons. Florida will only be able to fire him after enlisting the help of witch doctors, paranormal psychologists and Auburnboosters. Napier is like "Grey's Anatomy," a thing you're shocked to learn is somehow still going each new college football season.

Napier's latest revival came in a 29-21 win over Texas in which the Gators' defense racked up six sacks, picked off Arch Manning twice and held the Longhorns to 52 yards on the ground. The only highlight for Texas was a late-game sack in which Manning's helmet popped off, and his mop of disheveled hair forced all of America to swoon just long enough to forget Texas was the preseason No. 1 team in the country. Manning and the Horns have been this season's version of an "Avatar" sequel -- a massive endeavor earning millions of dollars based on a legacy franchise, while no one's quite sure why we're still supposed to care.

ESpin shitting on both programs, but Florida had shit the bed so thoroughly prior to playing Texas that the horns losing to the gators must’ve looked far worse to everyone than was truly justified.

Our loss to Miami isn’t looking quite as bad…. oh fuck that, it was horrible….

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19 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

ESpin shitting on both programs, but Florida had shit the bed so thoroughly prior to playing Texas that the horns losing to the gators must’ve looked far worse to everyone than was truly justified.

Our loss to Miami isn’t looking quite as bad…. oh fuck that, it was horrible….

Are y'all mad that we basically extended his tenure for at least a few more weeks? 

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Cross posting. Many here probably know that with no OL we are not going anywhere this year. This just puts a punctuation on why we lost two semifinals with the game on the line. Some guy from Washington penetrated way to quickly and need I bring up Ohio State. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, A’Dam Psycho said:

Can we atleast give the coach that went to back to back semifinals the rest of this season to figure things out

John Candy No GIF by Laff

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Since we’re bitching about anything and everything now. I think Sarks injury philosophy of holding players out for any little thing is creating an atmosphere of pussification. There is a difference between injured and hurt. Hurt players obviously shouldn’t play. For instance, Wisner should have played in our last game. 

Wisner came up lame, holding a hamstring on his touchdown.
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1 hour ago, RoyalBevo21 said:

Are y'all mad that we basically extended his tenure for at least a few more weeks? 

Are you sure they did?  I know less about football than anyone else on this board and I was absolutely not impressed with Napier during this game.  Like “Holy Shit” not impressed. 

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9 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:


Wisner came up lame, holding a hamstring on his touchdown.

That philosophy may have changed mid-game on Saturday when Livingstone was back on the field just an hour after not being able to walk off on his own power. Guess time will tell.

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3 hours ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Get fucking destroyed by OU next weekend won’t move us back into top 20

 

Get a grip, guys. The sky is not falling. We just suck. 

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15 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said:

Are you sure they did?  I know less about football than anyone else on this board and I was absolutely not impressed with Napier during this game.  Like “Holy Shit” not impressed. 

They're not gonna fire him after a ranked win. Texas wins that going away yesterday and I believe Florida is an open job tomorrow morning. 

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1 hour ago, lilMAC25 said:

Indeed, let us be exact…Mack Brown was fired after the 2013 season at Texas.

 

The 2009 season ended with an MNC appearance.

 

Which was lost because Mack had only one backup QB, a freshman with poor eyesight, who had taken fairly few snaps, only in garbage time, who was your Sunday Newspaper Parade Magazine High School Football Player of the Year, and on basically about the same level as Arch at the same age.

Unfortuately your Shoulda-had-the-Heisman QB - a Mister McCoy - got speared in the shoulder by a 500-pound Bammer DL, allowed by refs to try a few throws to see if he could play, and couldn't. Texas had to take an official time out to do the testing and allow QB2 to find his helmet, which wound up taking long enough that the refs threatened to charge another time out.

The Kid finally found his helmet, got in the game and converted a couple TD opportunities into field goals.

Although Texas came close, Bama scored two more TDs in desperation/garbage time of the last couple of minutes and made it look like a three score blowout.

After the game, Mack announced that he was going to follow the example of the other team's Head Coach, Saban, and create a running team. He didn't mention that he allegedly had told his Defensive Coordinator, Will Muschamp,  that he was going to retire after the game and Coach Muschamp, whose official title included the words "Head Coach In Waiting" would be the new Head Coach.

Mack allegedly excused himself by claiming he never said he was going to retire, but that he was planning to retire... but had simply changed his plans. You can imagine how happy Muschamp was.

That, mind you, was at the end of the 2009 season. 

Me? I put the start of the Wildeness Wandering right there.

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14 hours ago, scramblyn said:

Yes worthy and banks. Very little for golden. First round dunno, an nfl baller without sark, absolutely. 

now your turn … year five for sark - name more players he’s recruited than Herman players that have been drafted in the first or second rounds. 

im not advocating for his firing but his play off teams weren’t entirely with his players and numerous star players were recruited by someone else. 

 

Sark only has one draft eligible class plus his transition class. I’m on record about how the 2022 class was underwhelming elsewhere, but draft development is a weird thing to criticize at this point. 

To answer the question: Sark has signed and developed 4 more 1st and 2nd rounders (Banks, Murphy, Worthy, Brooks) than Herman, who only sent one of his recruits to the league after his fourth year (Cosmi). Connor Williams was also drafted in the second round under Herman, but he was a Strong signee and therefore doesn’t count under your criteria. Sark did put 4 more Herman recruits into the first two rounds (Sweat, Collins, Bijan, Barron). That seems like a positive for Sark though? To your stuff about the portal, Sark has three portal players in the first three rounds (Mitchell, Mukuba, Golden). Sark’s “stars” have been a pretty even split of his signees (4), Herman holdovers (4), and portal players (3). That’s not a bad thing. Sark deserves a lot of credit for talent acquisition and development.

Arguing about recruiting and the draft uncritically misses the real issues: poor talent acquisition specifically on the OL, poor coaching in the run game, penalties, special teams, and situational football (RZ/3D). Those things are sinking us. They’re so glaringly bad we can’t overcome the expected growing pains and occasional off performance. 

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2 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

Yes.

My best friend from high school texted me and asked, “What has Florida ever done to Texas to make them hate us so much they’d let us win?”

Chris Doering.  He’s a bigger dickfaced tool than the king…Trev fucking Alberts.  I fucking hate that prick.  The only saving grace for me is that aggy or Florida MUST lose next weekend because they play each other.  If aggy loses, great.  If Florida loses, then I get to watch that whiny cocksucker bitch and moan on the post game shows.  He’s a grade A douchebag and I hate the son of a bitch.  Fuck you, Cunt Doering!

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4 hours ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

Sark only has one draft eligible class plus his transition class. I’m on record about how the 2022 class was underwhelming elsewhere, but draft development is a weird thing to criticize at this point. 

To answer the question: Sark has signed and developed 4 more 1st and 2nd rounders (Banks, Murphy, Worthy, Brooks) than Herman, who only sent one of his recruits to the league after his fourth year (Cosmi). Conor Williams was also drafted in the second round under Herman, but he was a Strong signee and therefore doesn’t count under your criteria. Sark did put 4 more Herman recruits into the first two rounds (Sweat, Collins, Bijan, Barron). That seems like a positive for Sark though? To your stuff about the portal, Sark has three portal players in the first three rounds (Mitchell, Mukuba, Golden). Sark’s “stars” have been a pretty even split of his signees (4), Herman holdovers (4), and portal players (3). That’s not a bad thing. Sark deserves a lot of credit for talent acquisition and development.

Arguing about recruiting and the draft uncritically misses the real issues: poor talent acquisition specifically on the OL, poor coaching in the run game, penalties, special teams, and situational football (RZ/3D). Those things are sinking us. They’re so glaringly bad we can’t overcome the expected growing pains and occasional off performance. 

Thank you. Sark’s player development has been solid. Best we’ve had in 20 years. 

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Posted
9 hours ago, William Bludworth said:

Tom Herman recruited them, and PK got them drafted. What recruit has Sark personally recruited that has gone in the first rd? Not Banks, Barron, Golden, Murphy, Worthy. 

Banks was all Oregon before Cristobal left. 

Michigan screwed up Worthy's addition. 

Barron, Sweat, Murphy, were all Herman guys. 

Mukuba was a portal. 

Golden was a portal. 

Not a single player Sark has recruited has gone in the 1st or 2ns rd. The highest rated recruit in history went in the 7th rd. 

So you tell me, what's the deal? We're in year 5. Everyone has heen either a portal or just luck/coincidence. We weren't their first pick. 

Of all of the dumb things I've read over the past 24 hours, this is probably the dumbest.

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Posted
9 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

That philosophy may have changed mid-game on Saturday when Livingstone was back on the field just an hour after not being able to walk off on his own power. Guess time will tell.

Livingstone is a gamer. Deluxe. I think Arch may be too. Too bad we don’t have a plethora of likeminded Longhorns. Where’s coach Davis when we need him? Toughness is both bred and cultivated. 

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22 hours ago, Hank Kingsley said:

I think we just need to accept that is a transition year for Texas. Losing all that experience from last year's OL is clearly too much to overcome. 

This is the exact same excuse A&M fans used after the 2022 season. "It was a super young team!!1!"

Jimbo lasted just ten more games.

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2 minutes ago, satyanash said:

This is the exact same excuse A&M fans used after the 2022 season. "It was a super young team!!1!"

Jimbo lasted just ten more games.

There is truth to this. Hard to figure out what the staff saw from the OL that gave them any confidence going into the season 

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1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

There is truth to this. Hard to figure out what the staff saw from the OL that gave them any confidence going into the season 

I noticed Sark has not said "the standard is the standard" so far this season.

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3 minutes ago, satyanash said:

This is the exact same excuse A&M fans used after the 2022 season. "It was a super young team!!1!"

Jimbo lasted just ten more games.

I was listening to Paul Wadlington in the IT post game threat and he mentions that there must be some soul searching in the talent evaluation/player personnel side of things, especially regarding the OL.  Someone lied or was in denial this off season because there's no way the conclusion was this OL was good to go.

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1 minute ago, txexlonghorn23 said:

I noticed Sark has not said "the standard is the standard" so far this season.

He hasn’t said shit but same old bullshit philosophical dribble. I just want this fucking guy to be pissed off in a press conference and not be a condescending prick when a tough question gets asked 

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20 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

Didn't Sark try some NFL-style "OTA" approach to the spring this year with less contact because of how many games we'd played?

I hope not, because this is the exact same nonsense Charlie Weis did at Notre Dame and it backfired spectacularly for them during the regular season.

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For all his supposed mastery of X's and O's, Weis has not distinguished himself as a teacher. Weis has also been slow to adapt; for example, he put his players through light preseason practices, a common tactic used to keep NFL players fresh. But after their lack of physicality in a 38-0 loss to Michigan, Weis began running full-contact drills even during game weeks. "He has a lot to learn about the college game," said SuperPrep recruiting analyst Allen Wallace.

 

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44 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

He hasn’t said shit but same old bullshit philosophical dribble. I just want this fucking guy to be pissed off in a press conference and not be a condescending prick when a tough question gets asked 

I agree with this 100%. I’d feel a lot better if he seemed like this bothered him or he said he needed to make changes or find some guys who want to win.  Instead, sounds like everything is status quo and they can “still achieve their preseason goals”. He and his fucking coaching staff are getting laughed at around the country. No one thinks he’s an offensive guru or QB whisperer anymore. He should be more pissed than us that Flood and his band of merry pussies are starting to tank his career again after he worked so hard to resurrect it. 

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11 hours ago, Bodacious Bevo said:

To answer the question: Sark has signed and developed 4 more 1st and 2nd rounders (Banks, Murphy, Worthy, Brooks) than Herman, who only sent one of his recruits to the league after his fourth year (Cosmi).

Murphy and Brooks were Herman signees.

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9 minutes ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

I agree with this 100%. I’d feel a lot better if he seemed like this bothered him or he said he needed to make changes or find some guys who want to win.  Instead, sounds like everything is status quo and they can “still achieve their preseason goals”. He and his fucking coaching staff are getting laughed at around the country. No one thinks he’s an offensive guru or QB whisperer anymore. He should be more pissed than us that Flood and his band of merry pussies are starting to tank his career again after he worked so hard to resurrect it. 

In the long run emotion doesn’t help.  Rational decisions are what’s needed.  There’s no way to tell from a PC if that’s what’s occurring.   The PCs are worthless except for personnel news.

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It is pretty insane how quickly things have gone sideways on Sark.  That game felt like the Arkansas game in 2021, which is an order of magnitude less acceptable in year 5 than it is in year 1.  It reeks of hubris and confirmation bias.  

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Beat three nobodies. Lost to two somebodies. Both on the road.
 

Nine SEC teams are ranked today, and Texas isn’t one of them. That’s totally embarrassing.

 

Texas couldn’t run the ball Saturday.

It couldn’t stop the run.

It couldn’t protect Manning.

It sure couldn’t block.

It couldn’t put any pressure on DJ Lagway.

Pressure? It barely breathed on the Gators' quarterback with six total pressures. (Manning was sacked six times and pressured 25 times.) It couldn’t cover Florida’s receivers.

It couldn’t down a punt inside the 5. Twice.

It couldn’t tackle.

It couldn’t stop making penalties.

The Longhorns did a whole lot of couldn’t.

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This is clearly Mack Brown's doing... his return to Austin and inject himself in what was our winning trajectory, absolutely cursed us and derailed the program. His meddling will be our downfall, again.... 😖

https://www.si.com/college/texas/football/former-texas-longhorns-coach-mack-brown-worries-about-impact-current-nil-model

"Although the former Texas Longhorns head coach believes programs "should've paid players forever," he has expressed concerns about the way in which players are currently paid."

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Posted
8 minutes ago, someguy said:

I think it is now clear that the NFL style program that Sark has sought to implement is a massive failure.  NFL players are grown men who have made it through the college ranks as elite players, and with small roster sizes most players have to scratch and claw to obtain and maintain their roster spot.  They have the maturity and professionalism to handle a professional mindset.

Sark has said to anyone who will listen that Texas was going to pace themselves to prepare for a 16 game season.  Implicit in that is that Texas will, naturally of course - by virtue of how highly ranked and outlandishly talented the players are - make the playoff.  The regular season is for preparing to peak in the post season.  They ditched the spring game.  They eased up on fall camp.  They've been less physical in practice.  Sark openly talks about wanting to avoid running the team down, wanting to avoid injuries.  There is some wisdom in that, but wherever the ideal balance is, Texas is far away from that.

That works in the NFL with professionals.  We're learning that doesn't work with college players.  It creates a soft culture.  Players who aren't finished products but act like they are.  

There were a handful of players who left it all on the field Saturday.  The majority were largely indifferent.  Attitude reflects leadership.  This is a self inflicted lost year.  I hope adjustments are made and the program gets back to acting like wins are earned and not assumed.

This is the likely issue. We took shit for granted and lost our edge as a result. 

The talent is there to fix it at most positions, but likely not this season. 

Let’s hope he realizes the issues and adjusts before it turns into a tailspin. 

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Wasn't Sherman pretty good at sizing up OL talent and development?  Think he'd jump at the chance to get some revenge on AnM for letting him go.    And while most of this conversation is about the OL, what happened with the defensive front?  Is that on coaching or talent?   

I agree Sark needs to let go the whole mantra of being this offensive genius.  He seems to be so head strong on proving that to everyone by trotting out the same stuff over and over that I'm afraid by the time it starts working, everyone will know all his tendencies.  Maybe if he brings on some new blood like y'all have suggested, he will get re-energized by working with an apprentice, lending his expertise to help develop an even better offensive scheme.  

He's not a bad head coach overall, but he's a better administrator and recruiter than he seems to be a game day coach.    

 

I'll hang up and listen.

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27 minutes ago, Atticus said:

This is the likely issue. We took shit for granted and lost our edge as a result. 

The talent is there to fix it at most positions, but likely not this season. 

Let’s hope he realizes the issues and adjusts before it turns into a tailspin. 

I think the "edge" and planning for a long season is part of it but the biggest part IMO opinion is overall roster management.   Staff fell in love with younger players and/or expected way too many to take the next step and so we clearly spent way too much NIL on retention instead of addition.  Particularly on the offensive side of the ball.  We have a group of 5 OL combined with a RB and WR room stacked with 2's and 3's and not a single WR or RB1.   Both those WR's A&M picked up look like they are better than anything on our roster and I'm guessing they are getting paid less than multiple guys and maybe even a couple of the freshman.  I'm not sure we have a RB that is able to break a tackle or pick up a single yard more than our shit OL blocks a play for.    The next time I see a TE block well this season will probably the first. It's just a bad roster on the offensive side and it's entirely on the staff getting complacent or full of themselves for watching our backups last fall (and then in the spring) and not realizing they need help.

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2 hours ago, westexhorn said:

I was listening to Paul Wadlington in the IT post game threat and he mentions that there must be some soul searching in the talent evaluation/player personnel side of things, especially regarding the OL.  Someone lied or was in denial this off season because there's no way the conclusion was this OL was good to go.

This is concern #1. With the deepest pockets in CFB, why did we think we could compete for a national title by trotting out an o-line with 4 substandard recruits as starters?

Concern #2 is is not doing the deep dive on the psychological collapse of Arch. It is why aren't we starting the best possible QB against OU? 

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Mother fucker, this reeks of Mack's tenure post McCoy.  GG was supposed to be the "guy".  Had all the right tools on paper.  Looked and acted the part, and then shit his the proverbial fan in games.  Albeit he was thrust into the fray much sooner.  

Then Texas wandered the fucking wilderness for the better part of a decade with sub-par line play and miss after miss at QB.  

I have been shitting on Arch all season, but he did "ok".  Made some good throws.  Missed more than a few easy ones.  He wasn't the only problem.  Both lines shit the bed, rolled in it, and then threw it on the wall.  Also, Sark - why the fuck are you dialing up slow developing plays when you know the fucking line can't block!

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