Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted
11 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Raise yaks and you can sell the hair until you are ready to sell the meat.

there was a yak ranch near us in WY that would sell yak cuts, yak jerky, and also things like yak hair mittens at the market. 

And you could yak off in the bathroom!

Posted (edited)
16 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

 

 

*bison

and I suppose I’ll be needing a larger caliber rifle and some additional freezer space if I’ll be hunting them 

Tatonka

Pale face gonna pale face.

Edited by CoTex
Posted
42 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said:

Was 25 years ago, but I think my meat science professor said something like 80% of Holstein steers would grade choice, it just takes them forever to get there. And that was well-before all of the genetic improvements these last few years especially. 

Right, just give up some time on the turn, but you get them cheaper. 

46 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Aren't the majority of those cross-breeds or older cows who's milk production is starting to wane?  Or males obviously?

edb55644-c55c-41ce-8dde-c10a5bbded6d_tex

Used up dairy cows make pretty good hamburger. Grandpa used to keep a second deep freeze just for that. 

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
15 hours ago, CHIEF said:

How man cattle have you raised? Are you a rancher, or own cows?

CHIEF

No, I don't personally own cows. There are ranches in my family, my office is across the hall from a guy with land in several states that includes ranches, and I've got some drinking buddies who are ranch hands. Raising any kind of livestock is not easy and even in good times the risks of the investment going to waste are pretty high unless you know what you're doing and have convenient access to supplies and access to the right medicine and the right care.

Raising cows that people want to buy and eventually eat, according to the people who do it for a living, is a lot of hard work.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

Used up dairy cows make pretty good hamburger. Grandpa used to keep a second deep freeze just for that. 

We ran black angus for a while, then switched to Corriente cattle because they are just so much easier to manage.  Pretty damn good meat as well, although most make a stop through the local rodeo circuit.  

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
11 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

We ran black angus for a while, then switched to Corriente cattle because they are just so much easier to manage.  Pretty damn good meat as well, although most make a stop through the local rodeo circuit.  

We had a cross between Salers and Brahman cattle. They were good. 

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
16 minutes ago, Bevo said:

We had a cross between Salers and Brahman cattle. They were good. 

I'd also assume they had a poor disposition and didn't respect a fence. 

  • Haha 1
Posted
3 minutes ago, Royalfan5 said:

I'd also assume they had a poor disposition and didn't respect a fence. 

There were really only a few out of about 150 head that really pissed me off. The worst we named Sadie after my late aunt.

  • Haha 1
Posted
14 minutes ago, Bevo said:

There were really only a few out of about 150 head that really pissed me off. The worst we named Sadie after my late aunt.

This crooked horned cunt might be related.....wild ass cow.  Good mama.  But damn, she's a PITA

image.png.381566b3291f7776526232fcad223822.pngimage.png.207339c7d03cfc4a62562f282e37a7d0.pngimage.png.bd2c2d8439b97cb7a0fb9ac696f462b1.png

  • Haha 3
Posted
1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

No, I don't personally own cows. There are ranches in my family, my office is across the hall from a guy with land in several states that includes ranches, and I've got some drinking buddies who are ranch hands. Raising any kind of livestock is not easy and even in good times the risks of the investment going to waste are pretty high unless you know what you're doing and have convenient access to supplies and access to the right medicine and the right care.

Raising cows that people want to buy and eventually eat, according to the people who do it for a living, is a lot of hard work.

It's not really that hard of work, just more time consuming vaccinating, or cleaning any wounds. Screw worms have only been eradicated in the US since 1966. I remember my grandfather talking about how nice it is to not have to run your herd through the head chute every week to kill the larvae. Out of the four or five thousand head we raised over the years, I don't ever remember losing one to a disease, or to parasites. The only ones I can remember losing was one to a rattlesnake bite, and two heifers with calving problems. If you have good fences, and plenty of graze, you can kind of put them on autopilot. I've never really dealt with finishing cattle out in a feedlot, that may be a whole different situation with confined spaces.

CHIEF

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
7 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

It's not really that hard of work, just more time consuming vaccinating, or cleaning any wounds. Screw worms have only been eradicated in the US since 1966. I remember my grandfather talking about how nice it is to not have to run your herd through the head chute every week to kill the larvae. Out of the four or five thousand head we raised over the years, I don't ever remember losing one to a disease, or to parasites. The only ones I can remember losing was one to a rattlesnake bite, and two heifers with calving problems. If you have good fences, and plenty of graze, you can kind of put them on autopilot. I've never really dealt with finishing cattle out in a feedlot, that may be a whole different situation with confined spaces.

CHIEF

Why we switched to the Mezzican devil cows....and yet, nature still gets a vote.

image.png.4ddf88b28ba70a42ce298b93b78ef56d.pngimage.png.9a4d05e66857f07d9a2f1f956a1e48b2.png

  • Fuck Around and Find Out 1
Posted
13 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Why we switched to the Mezzican devil cows....and yet, nature still gets a vote.

image.png.4ddf88b28ba70a42ce298b93b78ef56d.pngimage.png.9a4d05e66857f07d9a2f1f956a1e48b2.png

Yeah, we were always blessed good pastures to graze, not really in an arid region. Didn't have to worry about cattle freezing to death like Montana or Wyoming. Never had to really worry about snow. I imagine the work gets harder the farther North and West you go.

CHIEF

  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
1 hour ago, BabaYaga said:

This crooked horned cunt might be related.....wild ass cow.  Good mama.  But damn, she's a PITA

image.png.207339c7d03cfc4a62562f282e37a7d0.png

I like this one. One horn goes one way. The other horn goes the other way... and this guy's sayin, "Whaddya want from me?"

  • Haha 1
  • Rage+1 1
Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, BabaYaga said:

This crooked horned cunt might be related.....wild ass cow.  Good mama.  But damn, she's a PITA

image.png.381566b3291f7776526232fcad223822.pngimage.png.207339c7d03cfc4a62562f282e37a7d0.pngimage.png.bd2c2d8439b97cb7a0fb9ac696f462b1.png

We had a cow with a black eye that would chase me on my four wheeler. One time I head out the pasture past the cattle guard rode around a bit and she started running after me. I had to go into the gas well pad and sit and wait for her to go away.  Bitch paced back and forth infront of the pad site for like 45 minutes before she finally wondered of and I could head to the house.  I was like 7, different times back then from today. 

Edited by Hook1997
  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
43 minutes ago, CHIEF said:

time consuming vaccinating, or cleaning any wounds

I guess this is the basic issue. Most people have very little spare time, and they want to spend it with family or pursuing other passions. Plus how much land would they need to graze? Most people who own their own homes probably don't have a huge lot even if the state made it legal to use any land for ag/farming purposes. So you'd need to keep the cattle somewhere away from home and commute possibly long distances in order to tend to them, before you could turn around and sell them for the anticipated profit.  That's a time suck, on time of the money suck, especially if you'll be hauling supplies some of the time. At a certain point it makes more sense to outsource to full time ranch hands, which adds to overhead and eats into profits.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Slacks said:

I like this one. One horn goes one way. The other horn goes the other way... and this guy's sayin, "Whaddya want from me?"

It's her mood.  One day she's tractable, one day she wants to kill you.

#mywife

Posted

To get this thread back on track - there are more and more "regenerative" farms popping up.  Farms like White Oak Pastures.  6th generation farming in GA.  Will Harris (owner) was on the JRE and really broke down his system, how it is magnitudes better than factory farming AND mono-crop agriculture.

Vertically integrated, almost zero-waste models that is all on-site and scalable

  • multi-species rotational grazing
  • holistic mgmt
  • no chemicals
  • soil building/composting
  • full utilization
  • on-site slaughter
  • soil sequesters more carbon that the livestock emit over their lifetimes
  • many environmental awards for their work.
Quote

After World War II, Will Bell Harris ran the farm. It was during his watch that the traditional system of producing and distributing beef, lamb, and poultry eroded. Science introduced a bevy of new chemical tools to the farm, and the slaughtering process became more and more centralized and distant from our pastures. During the latter half of the 20th century, our farm only produced calves for the industrial beef production system that furnishes most of the food we eat in this country.

Our farm and family have now come full circle. Today, we raise multiple species of livestock. We process the animals on the farm, and market the beef, lamb, poultry, rabbits, eggs, vegetables, leather products, tallow goods, and pet chews directly to consumers who appreciate our artisan, small-batch products.

The transition started in 1995 when Will Harris III made the conscious decision to return to a production system that is better for the environment, for our animals, and for the people who eat these meats. He reinstituted the multi-species rotational grazing practices of his forefathers, and he built abattoirs on the farm to slaughter our animals. We are fiercely proud of our zero-waste radically traditional farming practices. We have been blessed with good hard work to do and the strength to do it.

 

 

Posted
18 minutes ago, Hook1997 said:

We had a cow with a black eye that would chase me on my four wheeler. One time I head out the pasture past the cattle guard rode around a bit and she started running after me. I had to go into the gas well pad and sit and wait for her to go away.  Bitch paced back and forth infront of the pad site for like 45 minutes before she finally wondered of and I could head to the house.  I was like 7, different times back then from today. 

You mean like this sassy bitch right here.  Chased us out of the field, shut the gate and she eye-fucked us until we left.

image.png.83ebd66a85e95513792c9473c7dc04f6.png

  • Haha 1
Posted
2 hours ago, BabaYaga said:

This crooked horned cunt might be related.....wild ass cow.  Good mama.  But damn, she's a PITA

image.png.381566b3291f7776526232fcad223822.pngimage.png.207339c7d03cfc4a62562f282e37a7d0.pngimage.png.bd2c2d8439b97cb7a0fb9ac696f462b1.png

 

1 hour ago, Slacks said:

I like this one. One horn goes one way. The other horn goes the other way... 

I knew a gal with boobs like that.

Man, she was great.

  • Haha 1
Posted
42 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

To get this thread back on track - there are more and more "regenerative" farms popping up.  Farms like White Oak Pastures.  6th generation farming in GA.  Will Harris (owner) was on the JRE and really broke down his system, how it is magnitudes better than factory farming AND mono-crop agriculture.

Vertically integrated, almost zero-waste models that is all on-site and scalable

  • multi-species rotational grazing
  • holistic mgmt
  • no chemicals
  • soil building/composting
  • full utilization
  • on-site slaughter
  • soil sequesters more carbon that the livestock emit over their lifetimes
  • many environmental awards for their work.

 

 

Have a buddy in Salado that is a partner on a Wagyu ranch that does that. From the pasture, through the finishing, to the processing. He would bring Wagyu steaks to the deer lease, and they were the shit. For some reason, show steers never brought much money at the Central Texas Fair in Clifton, my Dad would always keep mine out of the sale. His reasoning was that the steer was finished perfect, he had paid the feed bill, so he was going to eat that bastard instead of someone else.

CHIEF 

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.



×
×
  • Create New...