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1 minute ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Always seemed like you need a functioning brain to play the position. Guess not. Must be more of a savant thing. 

I think quarterback intelligence boils down to the ability to quickly proceed through a decision tree under duress, which isn't the same thing as general intelligence.

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Only the the very best people.....

Oklahoma GOP Chair Nathan Dahm sent out this statement this afternoon, confirming one of the suspects arrested in the panhandle murders was the elected chair of Cimarron County Republican Party.

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When this GOP's Senate Working Group is too woke for your material, you've officially crossed the career Rubicon, Schneider.  I'm sure you can still play a Proud Bois Charrette/Orgy at the Cheyenne Radisson Inn.  

Shit, even Jim Bruer is still getting decent gigs compared to Rob now.  And Rob was actually funny at one point.  

There's got to be a "The Right is Getting Funnier" joke in here somewhere with regard to Rob getting boo'd off the stage

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1 hour ago, TeeDubya said:

Only the the very best people.....

Oklahoma GOP Chair Nathan Dahm sent out this statement this afternoon, confirming one of the suspects arrested in the panhandle murders was the elected chair of Cimarron County Republican Party.

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 I love how they point out that she was only elected by a "handful of people."

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Posted
25 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

 I love how they point out that she was only elected by a "handful of people."

She earned that handful of votes

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Sorry to hear that.  It's always tough when it's someone you know and care about, that you absolutely know should know better.  But it's such a delicate tightwire act.  You can't just shake 'em and say "snap out of it!"  And you can't just ignore it and pretend everything is precisely the same between you.  

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21 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Sorry to hear that.  It's always tough when it's someone you know and care about, that you absolutely know should know better.  But it's such a delicate tightwire act.  You can't just shake 'em and say "snap out of it!"  And you can't just ignore it and pretend everything is precisely the same between you.  

I’m thinking about putting together a 2000 mules rebuttal and saying man let’s watch the movie together talk about it then read a few articles (like 10 of them) that have specific critiques or the news that true the vote admitted it had no evidence in court, etc then talk about it. 

I don’t know.

He’s hard to the paint libertarian hates the corruption. Look there’s tons of it, I agree. But then it’s over get rid of all of them. Ugh.

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4 minutes ago, troph said:

I’m thinking about putting together a 2000 mules rebuttal and saying man let’s watch the movie together talk about it then read a few articles (like 10 of them) that have specific critiques or the news that true the vote admitted it had no evidence in court, etc then talk about it. 

I don’t know.

He’s hard to the paint libertarian hates the corruption. Look there’s tons of it, I agree. But then it’s over get rid of all of them. Ugh.

Don't put yourself through that.  Just let him go.  

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40 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

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I am cleansing with the democracy on trial frontline documentary. It has commentary but after 30 seconds of commentary there is original source material to corroborate. Refreshing.  

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15 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Get outta town.

I think it’s how he got snagged. He’s pro abortion, pro lgbtq, and yet his limited government and assumption it’s all corrupt got him SNAGGED. 

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59 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

You don’t have to convince him to vote for Biden. You have to convince him Trump is not worth his vote.

That’s the actual assignment

The messaging to libertarians is: your vote for a republican is for government to control your reproductive healthcare. You want the government to tell you what to do with your genitals? Hell no. Vote for RFK jr.  Dilute the republican vote to the 3rd party candidate.

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14 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Ultimately, every "libertarian" is a conservative who leans fascist.  It's the most confounding thing, but we see it here all the time.

I think for this guy it’s pure libertarianism and then belief that every part of the government needs to be severely constrained due to corruption. The deep state triangulation by Trump to capture guys like him and then activating them on election denialism snagged him. Basically captured by rhetoric. He’s honestly more of an anarchist libertarian than a fascist.  Until now I had no proof and hoped he was a misguided naive guy - in the end libertarianism is the political philosophy of the naive, but maybe that’s why so many got snagged. 

1 minute ago, GenXer said:

The messaging to libertarians is: your vote for a republican is for government to control your reproductive healthcare. You want the government to tell you what to do with your genitals? Hell no. Vote for RFK jr.  Dilute the republican vote to the 3rd party candidate.

I’m pretty sure he does not vote at all. I could be wrong. But I like your angle.

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1 hour ago, troph said:

I am cleansing with the democracy on trial frontline documentary. It has commentary but after 30 seconds of commentary there is original source material to corroborate. Refreshing.  

For reference:

 

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1 hour ago, troph said:

I think for this guy it’s pure libertarianism and then belief that every part of the government needs to be severely constrained due to corruption.

 

He’s honestly more of an anarchist libertarian than a fascist.

There's a lot of that mindset on both sides of the political spectrum. 

Atlantic: The Americans Who Need Chaos.

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White men in the conspiracy-theory study were the most sensitive to perceived challenges to status, Petersen told me. But the researchers wrote that the need for chaos was “highest among racial groups facing historical injustice—in particular, Black males.”

Anti-elite conspiracy theories and tear-it-all-down rhetoric can appeal to groups who feel, sometimes quite rightly, aggrieved by long-standing injustice.

As we spoke, I recalled some of the radical rhetoric from the summer of 2020: “If this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it,” Hawk Newsome, the chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, said during an interview with Fox News. “I could be speaking figuratively; I could be speaking literally. It’s a matter of interpretation.” When I think about our political and social institutions, I cannot help thinking, “Just let them all burn.”

 

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7 minutes ago, NWBuck said:

There's a lot of that mindset on both sides of the political spectrum. 

Atlantic: The Americans Who Need Chaos.

 

The interesting difference - at least to me - is legal disenfranchisement of liberal burn it to the ground groups versus perceived disenfranchised white male burn It to the ground types - unless the corruption is so complete we have no hope.  It leads to false equivalency arguments - they are all corrupt.

But when I say Ken Paxton is demanding DL data on gender changes he’s unaware, when I explain one party wants me dead he disagrees with that party and is unfazed. They are all corrupt makes Trump’s brazen corruption and criminality garden variety because they all are.
 

hey I’m just asking questions. It’s like they go to school to have talking points. 
 

in the end politicians are complicated, all want power some wield it more elegantly others with brut force and blood thirst for more. I see a distinct difference but he does not so full circle if they are all the same give me the guy that screams the other side is corrupt the loudest. I guess.
 

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5 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

I’m so behind the trends. I have a tailor in my contacts and actually use her and on the rare occasion that I need to wear a tie I don’t wear it down to my scrotum.

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12 minutes ago, royiv said:

I’m so behind the trends. I have a tailor in my contacts and actually use her and on the rare occasion that I need to wear a tie I don’t wear it down to my scrotum.

To be fair it does come below your waist to your 20 something year old scrotum level amirite? If so you just haven’t adjusted for age and gravity- that’s a forgivable sin.

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25 minutes ago, troph said:

To be fair it does come below your waist to your 20 something year old scrotum level amirite? If so you just haven’t adjusted for age and gravity- that’s a forgivable sin.

 

Just to the belt buckle.

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Also, since you watched that donkey show for your buddy, you should get him to watch the Frontline episode in kind.

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9 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

You don’t have to convince him to vote for Biden. You have to convince him Trump is not worth his vote.

That’s the actual assignment

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Hammer home that Trump is arguing that a President can do just about anything, and therefore Biden should be allowed to as well.  When they try to argue that’s not what they mean, just tell them that they are wrong and ask why they are disagreeing with President Trump. If they argue, just ask why they are against Trump.  I don’t like to gaslight relatives, but in this case I will.

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4 minutes ago, bolverk said:

 

Just to the belt buckle.

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Also, since you watched that donkey show for your buddy, you should get him to watch the Frontline episode in kind.

Don’t ask me how I know tie fashion, but I know scrotal-tie congruence is not a thing. 
 

I’m going to tell him he needs to watch front line but he won’t, he’s too busy asking questions. 

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43 minutes ago, royiv said:

I’m so behind the trends. I have a tailor in my contacts and actually use her and on the rare occasion that I need to wear a tie I don’t wear it down to my scrotum.

A good manservant would not let you leave the estate with an unkempt tie.

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8 hours ago, NWBuck said:

White men in the conspiracy-theory study were the most sensitive to perceived challenges to status, Petersen told me. But the researchers wrote that the need for chaos was “highest among racial groups facing historical injustice—in particular, Black males.”

Anti-elite conspiracy theories and tear-it-all-down rhetoric can appeal to groups who feel, sometimes quite rightly, aggrieved by long-standing injustice.

As we spoke, I recalled some of the radical rhetoric from the summer of 2020: “If this country doesn’t give us what we want, then we will burn down this system and replace it,” Hawk Newsome, the chairman of Black Lives Matter of Greater New York, said during an interview with Fox News. “I could be speaking figuratively; I could be speaking literally. It’s a matter of interpretation.” When I think about our political and social institutions, I cannot help thinking, “Just let them all burn.”

Near to this is the economic situation we are in.  This has been my sense when we all repeat "they're voting against their interests!" It comes off as snobbish to me -- I know what you need and you couldn't possibly understand.  A lot these Trumptards are the losers of our society, so they vote for firebombing our society.  A chance that chaos ends up somehow benefitting is better than a status quo where they already know they will always lose, or so the mindset goes. 

 

This is a new.  We used to have substantial economic mobility (a.k.a. "The American Dream").  Not so much anymore.

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Male workers in recent years may be less likely to experience upward absolute earnings mobility over their careers than in years past due to labor market changes. As seen in Figure 3, when examining two cohorts of men entering the labor force, Maume and Wilson (2015) find that men entering the labor force in the 2000s in lowerearning trajectories (“slowmillennials”) saw growth similar to those who entered the labor force in the 1980s (“slow-boomers”), while wages grew faster for men in higher-earning trajectories (“rapid-millennials” vs. “rapid-boomers”). However, “slow” and “steady” trajectory men made up a greater percent of the male workforce in the millennial cohort (33% and 57%, respectively) than in the boomer cohort (27% for slow boomers and 46% for steady boomers), suggesting that men were more likely to experience slower wage growth in the 2000s than in the 1980s.

You can't grind your way out of losing any more.  So why should we expect loyalty to the system?

 

https://www.irp.wisc.edu/wp/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Economic-Mobility-Memo-1-Definitions-and-Trends-April-2020.pdf

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24 minutes ago, Goredho said:

I have a friend like this, a guy I played sports with and did all the sporty esprit-de-corps things with.  So we've been tight, almost lifelong friends.  He's a self-described libertarian that has gone way down the conspiracy rabbit hole and is now basically working to try to bring about the downfall of the US.  His legitimate business failed and he is rebounding by starting a podcast and writing two books simultaneously "with the help of AI."  It's all aimed at promoting conspiracies and at least indirectly undermining confidence in our governmental institutions.  His social media used to be full of stuff about sports and his kids and real life.  Now it's just a stream of conspiracy nonsense that no one reacts to.  It's like he's posting in a vacuum.

Last time I saw him, I just hugged him and told him I loved him and said that if he ever wants to come back I'll help him.  He just blinked in surprise and said, "I love you, too man, but... what do you mean?  Come back from what?"

It is very depressing to see good people who you once admired start to believe stupid, crazy shit.  And there’s nothing you can do about it.  For anyone reading this who is just now encountering loved ones buying into MAGA/QAnon bullshit, LET THEM GO.  Write them off.  Only pain will come from trying to engage with them.  Sad but true.

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

A good manservant would not let you leave the estate with an unkempt tie.

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21 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

It is very depressing to see good people who you once admired start to believe stupid, crazy shit.  And there’s nothing you can do about it.  For anyone reading this who is just now encountering loved ones buying into MAGA/QAnon bullshit, LET THEM GO.  Write them off.  Only pain will come from trying to engage with them.  Sad but true.

This.

They're gone.  They are never coming back.

Move on, for your own good.

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1 hour ago, Goredho said:

I have a friend like this, a guy I played sports with and did all the sporty esprit-de-corps things with.  So we've been tight, almost lifelong friends.  He's a self-described libertarian that has gone way down the conspiracy rabbit hole and is now basically working to try to bring about the downfall of the US.  His legitimate business failed and he is rebounding by starting a podcast and writing two books simultaneously "with the help of AI."  It's all aimed at promoting conspiracies and at least indirectly undermining confidence in our governmental institutions.  His social media used to be full of stuff about sports and his kids and real life.  Now it's just a stream of conspiracy nonsense that no one reacts to.  It's like he's posting in a vacuum.

Hows 8badmofo doing nowadays?

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1 hour ago, Goredho said:

I have a friend like this, a guy I played sports with and did all the sporty esprit-de-corps things with.  So we've been tight, almost lifelong friends.  He's a self-described libertarian that has gone way down the conspiracy rabbit hole and is now basically working to try to bring about the downfall of the US.  His legitimate business failed and he is rebounding by starting a podcast and writing two books simultaneously "with the help of AI."  It's all aimed at promoting conspiracies and at least indirectly undermining confidence in our governmental institutions.  His social media used to be full of stuff about sports and his kids and real life.  Now it's just a stream of conspiracy nonsense that no one reacts to.  It's like he's posting in a vacuum.

Last time I saw him, I just hugged him and told him I loved him and said that if he ever wants to come back I'll help him.  He just blinked in surprise and said, "I love you, too man, but... what do you mean?  Come back from what?"

we just got into a text convo that ended like this basically. and I just put our texts on mute and his insta on mute. I can receive calls, text messages and DMs but if he abuses it, I'll end it.  It's so sad, I was so loving and he's so fucking mad at me right now. he's demanding I look at his crap and he won't look at mine and he just blasted Frontline as a media conspiracy against the truth.

Here's the thing, the shit they watch - like 2000 mules - and Frontline without a discriminating eye look similar. Introduction of the evidence usually with a person talking, show the evidence, explain what the evidence concludes with a person talking, period. Next chapter, introduction of the evidence, show the evidence, explain the evidence, period. Repeat until the story is told. But 2000 mules doesn't have evidence it has information that is explained to fit the narrative. The evidence is a woman at 1am dropping off 4 votes with a mask on. See, she's a mule, who votes at 1am? who wears a mask? who votes 4 times? What if she's a shift worker? What if she's taking her elderly mom and dad's vote and her husband's vote? what if she's got a mask because of COVID? none of that matters. geo fencing, people driving by voting drops 28 times and going to get out the vote non-profit shams!  They have like 3 videos of voter drop offs and claim thousands of mules. It's unreal what gets by these people.

Frontline on the other hand, a journalist introduces the evidence, the evidence is under oath witness testimony, then that witness explains in their own words on the show, then back to their under oath testimony, then a picture of trump from the national archives on the phone with people in the room from that conversation, then the indictment in words, then the commentator to draw the conclusion, period.  You know, real evidence.

You know what I'm going to do?

I'm going to double down on my kids. that's what i'm going to do.

 

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