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Trump said the former first lady was watching his Pennsylvania rally live on television on July 13 when 20-year-old Thomas Crooks opened fire, grazing him on the ear.

'I said so what was your feeling,' and uh she was uh, she can't really even talk about it... which is OK, because that means she likes me or she loves me. I mean, let's say if she could talk about it freely, that wouldn't be, I'm not so sure which is better. But uh, she either likes or loves me and uh that's nice."

Melania at home:

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1 minute ago, TexasHooch said:

They all just went to the Offensive Flag store on the way from the rally to the capital.

I just love thinking of all the shitbag hucksters who stocked up on cheap Chinese "Let's Go Brandon Flags" for their shops and are basically stuck with inventory they can't move.   

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16 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Im not sure I think this poll is reality. I have a real hard time believing Trump is winning independants, but I can't back that up with anything other than my gut feeling. Honestly I don't think Trump is getting 92% of Republicans either. 

We’ve all see a lot fewer flags, bumper stickers, etc. in recent years when driving outside of larger cities or in Trumpy areas, and a lot of stuff that we do see is 2020 shit.  I don’t see MAGA types among my family/friends/coworkers on social media/FB going all in on Trump shit like Facebook profile photos etc. they used to.  There’s a difference in the air.  

Sure, some/many will still vote for him, but if the enthusiasm is down among Repuvlicans who voted for him in the past, why would independents be more excited for him now versus the past?

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Just now, Zonahorn said:

New tone, much unity, less racial comments

Memo: Stop being racist

GOP politicians:

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8 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Episode 2 Drama GIF by PBS
 

Edit Never mind  you meant somebody else

You were included man. But I thought Lara blocked you when you said you thought the first thing she did after leaving Andersonville was get lip work done?

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51 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

As a member of Gen-X, I'm really learning to hate me some Gen-X.  We're almost as shitty as the Boomers.  And I gotta tell ya, our generational slogan of "slightly less shitty than the Boomers" just isn't boosting my morale.

I just figured we didn't respond to polls.  Not to say we probably aren't some magnitude of shitty more than what we ought to be.

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52 minutes ago, immamac said:

Seriously though, objectively how does Trump pull out of this tailspin? This is now definitely tailspin territory post RNC. Before it was kind of a vibe thing, but now he's out there and clearly fucking losing it on stage, ending engagements early after disaster answers, losing the crowd etc etc.

Set aside for a second what you think about him winning and the morality of helping someone like him win, but what would you do if you were in charge of the strategy at this point in the  campaign?

Everything in politics is fleeting. I have no idea what the news cycle will look like a month, two months from now, aside from the fact that it won't look like it does now. We've been watching novel, modern history-making events unfold for like a month straight so to assume the landscape won't significantly change is probably a bad idea. I don't know the last time I said this, but if the election were held tomorrow it'd be a complete coin flip and I might even favor Harris. It's not held tomorrow though; at the moment that uncertainty is potential upside for Trump much as it was for Democrats when trying to get Biden to step aside.

People's opinions of Trump are hardened. Partisanship is a bitch. I doubt he wins any new supports but I doubt he loses many relative to 2016 or 2020 either. You can be reasonably sure of him getting his ~46% nationally and + 2%-3% on that in swing states that generally lean slightly right of the nation.

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There's way less yard signs in my town. A few.

In my particular neighborhood there is only a single house with a sign of any kind and it was "presidents are temporary, Wu-Tang is forever", but it is in the same fonts and color schemes as a campaign sign.

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1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

Everything in politics is fleeting. I have no idea what the news cycle will look like a month, two months from now, aside from the fact that it won't look like it does now. We've been watching novel, modern history-making events unfold for like a month straight so to assume the landscape won't significantly change is probably a bad idea. I don't know the last time I said this, but if the election were held tomorrow it'd be a complete coin flip and I might even favor Harris. It's not held tomorrow though; at the moment that uncertainty is potential upside for Trump much as it was for Democrats when trying to get Biden to step aside.

People's opinions of Trump are hardened. Partisanship is a bitch. I doubt he wins any new supports but I doubt he loses many relative to 2016 or 2020 either. You can be reasonably sure of him getting his ~46% nationally and + 2%-3% on that in swing states that generally lean slightly right of the nation.

A lot can happen, yes. 

I'd be very afraid if I was a Republican that Harris is trending up and beating/just behind Trump in the poll after 10 days, Dems are getting more excited and enthusiastic and my candidate picked (and is stuck with) the worst fucking VP and is now self-imploding on TV. 

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6 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

i’m the first to admit that my poli-sci degree from Florida does not give me any better opinion on a race in 2024 after these 40-odd years than yours - but I have been a political junkie all of my life, and it strikes me that the never ending buzz about Trump attacking people and Vance attacking people, and all of the emotional energy that goes with Trump’s version of grievance politics is so fucking tiring to any normal person, that the continued Trump drama will encourage people to vote for Harris.  Just so they don’t have to listen to this shit every day for four years.

Given that Trump feels this attack mode is the only way for him to campaign, and as polls are trending down, his Pavlovian response will be to get even uglier and more emotional. Forget all of the policy position stuff, I am here to say Trump will lose because - overall - people just don’t want to listen to his constant shit slinging anymore.  They want happy smiling chirpy Harris to tell them things are going to be fine, and are in fact fine right now, but we are working on the things that aren’t and we will work with Republicans and listen to their ideas. 

I think voters - more than anything - want a break from the anger and the drama.   It’s as simple as that.  During the recent Biden doldrums we were not getting the full on shit slinging Gibbon that is Trump.   Some people forgot how it was when he was president.   Like PTS, people are remembering the constant negativity and insulting attacks on everyone who disagrees with Trump.

I think the PTS is being triggered and will result in a Harris win. 

Walz summarized the sentiment saying something like "If this was a TV show, it would be cancelled.  People are just tired of it." 

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1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

People's opinions of Trump are hardened. Partisanship is a bitch. I doubt he wins any new supports but I doubt he loses many relative to 2016 or 2020 either. You can be reasonably sure of him getting his ~46% nationally and + 2%-3% on that in swing states that generally lean slightly right of the nation.

He’s lost a bunch of the Qanons and anti-vaxxers, some to RFK Jr, some to going back to not voting after feeling betrayed, but a lot of those types didn’t vote in 2016 anyways because nobody was mobilizing them like he was.

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1 minute ago, Js1 said:

A lot can happen, yes. 

I'd be very afraid if I was a Republican that Harris is trending up and beating/just behind Trump in the poll after 10 days, Dems are getting more excited and enthusiastic and my candidate picked (and is stuck with) the worst fucking VP and is now self-imploding on TV. 

I didn't say they should feel good lol. Just saying it's a little early to be discussing the idea of Trump winning as borderline inconceivable. 

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4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Not for Joe Biden after the debate. Some things stick. 

 

To Donald Trump? There's like 9 years of evidence to the contrary but okay. Or at least that they only stick in that he does not expand his support.

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1 minute ago, CTC2 said:

I do think that this is just a matter of time. 

It’ll happen. And then the gaslighting will start 

- he didn’t say it

- okay he said it, but she started it 

- he has the support of rappers, he’s allowed to say it

- it’s actually not a slur because she’s not black 

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Just now, Hank Kingsley said:

Not for Joe Biden after the debate. Some things stick. 

 

The decision to cut him had buy-in that night from BMDs and DC power players, and they made the decision because it was clear he would not be able to generate the excitement required to compete in November. If the decision hadn't been so clear-cut and so quickly made, I don't think the talk of replacement would have been allowed on MSNBC and they would have tried to move on from it. The messaging discipline around the "bad episode" talking point would have been much stronger (notice how good the discipline around "weird" has been).

The reason the "shitty debate" story stuck around was because the plan (which so far has been fucking incredibly well-executed) was being brokered, so the story remained relevant. Biden's Sunday letter, his endorsement of Kamala, everyone falling in line, by Tuesday the veepstakes were in full swing.

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4 minutes ago, Js1 said:

A lot can happen, yes. 

I'd be very afraid if I was a Republican that Harris is trending up and beating/just behind Trump in the poll after 10 days, Dems are getting more excited and enthusiastic and my candidate picked (and is stuck with) the worst fucking VP and is now self-imploding on TV. 

If I was a Republican strategist, I’d be real fucking nervous because the couch fucker ain’t moving the needle, and because we are so close to the election, that another major fuckup or two like today’s fiasco would put the GOP in a tailspin they can’t pull out of.

Hell, this fiasco is overshadowing video being released of the guy who shot at him running around on a roof.

He’s got one bigly arrow left in his quiver - finding the perfect VP and booting Vance off the ticket. That might erase today’s fuckup if it was an amazing pick and if Trump didn’t fuck up anymore, but I know Trump will have to say something stupid soon.

And we don’t even know what the full impact is on down-ballot GOP candidates who may not be getting as much funding in years past because Trump controls the GOP.

 

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40 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

 

 

He drinks out of that same water bottle later.  I didn't even see the one to his right in the several clips.

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4 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

I do think that this is just a matter of time. 

And it won't matter.  The same people that stuck with him after Access Hollywood will still be there.....

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14 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

i’m the first to admit that my poli-sci degree from Florida does not give me any better opinion on a race in 2024 after these 40-odd years than yours - but I have been a political junkie all of my life, and it strikes me that the never ending buzz about Trump attacking people and Vance attacking people, and all of the emotional energy that goes with Trump’s version of grievance politics is so fucking tiring to any normal person, that the continued Trump drama will encourage people to vote for Harris.  Just so they don’t have to listen to this shit every day for four years.

Given that Trump feels this attack mode is the only way for him to campaign, and as polls are trending down, his Pavlovian response will be to get even uglier and more emotional. Forget all of the policy position stuff, I am here to say Trump will lose because - overall - people just don’t want to listen to his constant shit slinging anymore.  They want happy smiling chirpy Harris to tell them things are going to be fine, and are in fact fine right now, but we are working on the things that aren’t and we will work with Republicans and listen to their ideas. 

I think voters - more than anything - want a break from the anger and the drama.   It’s as simple as that.  During the recent Biden doldrums we were not getting the full on shit slinging Gibbon that is Trump.   Some people forgot how it was when he was president.   Like PTS, people are remembering the constant negativity and insulting attacks on everyone who disagrees with Trump.

I think the PTS is being triggered and will result in a Harris win. 

A whole lot of this.  Truly, I think that the best chance is for this to be a "vibes" election (I mean, all elections are to some extent or another).  And the bolded is where a large-enough chunk of voters want to be.  We just don't want to listen to the fucking crazy neighbor who hates and rants against everyone and Just.  Will.  Not.  Shut.  UP.  Just shut the fuck up, man.  You're exhausting and negative and we're fucking sick of it.  

7 minutes ago, ALexusTexus7 said:


Nah, it’s not a Trump rally.

All the other pics sure as shit are.  Like these.

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Eat your fucking hat, pussy-ass bitch.  Just like your god-king, you're just another pussy-ass bitch.  Bitchmade, bitch-worshipping, doing all he can to try to convince himself that he's not a worthless piece of shit...and failing miserably at that exercise.

Eat a hat, or be gone.

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