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37 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Chris Christie is not a dumb man.

Has he endorsed Kamala yet?  That’s not refuting the above but until he does his words are relatively empty. 

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3 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I warned about discussions I've had with multiple UT kids a few months back.  I wasn't lying.  They collectively had a big problem with Biden because they felt he didn't do enough to quell Israel's aggressiveness against Palestine.  Hopefully they don't now hold that against Harris.  I pointed out RvW, P2025, and a couple other greatest hits -- they paled in perceived importance to Israel/Palestine.

We can rail against them for being naïve and idealistic or we can continue to try to open eyes.  

Ask them why they are attending school in Occupied Mexico.

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1 hour ago, RomaVicta said:

Who are we calling kids here? Seriously. Twenty to early thirties? Collegians? I will presume to take up their perspective.

I think when they say "too old" that they're saying more than "it's time for the young generation to take over."

Two geriatrics where one is a criminal lunatic who manages to get elected and the other is well-meaning but is stuck in the past of political discourse and literally difficult to understand, present more than an aesthetic objection.

I'm guessing that many view the world governments including the US as Greta Thunberg does. The short-sighted profit/growth driven economies and governments are doing very little to address issues that deal with their future. The olds still see the world as having a future similar to when they themselves were young. The olds are fucking way off.

Climate cataclysm is the easiest example, and it indeed exemplifies what the young must be seeing in any number of contexts. They just really don't give a fuck, and there's nothing I can do about it.

They see BLM and Me Too dismissed or even villified in the case of the former. They see 60s style police crackdowns on non-violent demonstrations on campus. They see a criminal system of justice unable to even jail the leader of an insurrection they saw on TV.

There has been a cold-blooded collaboration between banks, governments, and colleges to strap them with high five to six digit debt the day they leave school to embark on their young lives. That is unconscionable, shameless, and mandatory. The college loans are unironically presented as providing "opportunity" while severely limiting same. Horrifying.

The young already exist in a de facto fascist-authoritariam society in which their interests don't matter unless they conform to the rapine ways that got us here. Get the job to pay the loan to live the future your grandpa did which doesn't exist anymore. 

I won't promote what is essentially "we didn't include them, so why don't they feel included." Their world will go to shit and they will rightfully hate all of us as selfish materialists. 

So, yeah, I don't see myself having an easy time sidling up to a "kid" and offering to set them straight on how to run things.

 

Dude I AGREE with all of them, hell I am more to the left than all of them, but the time for that shit was before the primaries, it was before Oct 7, it was literally on day 1 of the Biden administration, then is where they should have organized and put heat on the democrats, instead what did we get? just polls around July 2021 that had Biden underwater... because he is too old. This is NOT sustainable, this leads to shitty primary candidates (Hillary) they then blame the DNC as a conspiracy theory, and we get a divided huge tent electorate.

I thought they learned that lesson in 2020 but it surfaced again today, because grandpa was too old... there is no plan nor reason nor logic, just blind blind luck that Biden wanted a snap 2 day transition, without that level of selflessness and execution we would have probably been doomed. 

Posted
16 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

since this is a Trump theme, I just assumed that you were a Popeye's guy.  I seem to recall that you turned black quite a while ago. 

Bojangle's. keep it on script.

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19 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Man there were some good stories on shaggy of that fuel.

Who was the guy who got arrested in his front yard speaking in tongues? It was also the guy who somehow got one of the "water nymphs" friends to come to a happy hour at Oslo either to meet the gang or sort of a date. Either way, she was about as disappointed as you would expect. 

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1 hour ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

A black guy at the bar last night told me "Yeah Trump is racist but Republicans are better with the economy. Trump cut my taxes and gave me some money during covid. Democrats want to send all my money to Ukraine....Also did you see they let that man beat up a woman in boxing? I can't support Democrats thinking men should beat up women."

You should have asked him who his two senators are and watch the blank stare on his face.

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Curious if the VP pick leaks tonight or if Team Harris really is using CDC and no one on earth except Harris and the VP will know until tomorrow 

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Curious if the VP pick leaks tonight or if Team Harris really is using CDC and no one on earth except Harris and the VP will know until tomorrow 

Leaks mean the admin is messy. 

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Just now, immamac said:

Leaks mean the admin is messy. 

It’s politics. You can’t pay these attention whores enough to be quiet. It doesn’t mean messy. People tend to figure things out - they’ll be watching whose houses gets extra security, flights (that’s how Palin got figured out)

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To keep momentum and headlines going, I think it would be smart to announce the VP pick tomorrow. Gives the media a chance to introduce the candidate to voters and have a little more excitement heading into their 1st rally in Pennsylvania on Tuesday. 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

In consecutive days, an American presidential candidate said he doesn’t like Bruce Springsteen but he likes Vlad Putin. And this shit is going to be close? We are truly lost  

quoted for truth

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12 minutes ago, UncleSonny said:

In consecutive days, an American presidential candidate said he doesn’t like Bruce Springsteen but he likes Vlad Putin. And this shit is going to be close? We are truly lost  


Springsteen was one of the best concerts / shows I’ve ever attended. He was amazing 

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Who was the guy who got arrested in his front yard speaking in tongues? It was also the guy who somehow got one of the "water nymphs" friends to come to a happy hour at Oslo either to meet the gang or sort of a date. Either way, she was about as disappointed as you would expect. 

@NorthLoop was this you? 

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13 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:


Springsteen was one of the best concerts / shows I’ve ever attended. He was amazing 

Same here, but it was "six of" instead of "one of" for me. 

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3 hours ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

A black guy at the bar last night told me "Yeah Trump is racist but Republicans are better with the economy. Trump cut my taxes and gave me some money during covid. Democrats want to send all my money to Ukraine....Also did you see they let that man beat up a woman in boxing? I can't support Democrats thinking men should beat up women."

 

I’m going to guess this Black guy also tried to rush KA in college too.

 

There’s something about Black people like this, both male and female (although mostly Black males). I did some research during grad school about Blacks, identity, and in-groups/out-groups. This came from a class discussion about gender, sexuality, and culture so there was a connection. Anywho, the argumentation from that class discussion spurned the argument I was going to make in a paper of why Black male athletes play sports for PWIs when some of those PWIs (namely the university of Mississippi) have such a terrible past and terrible fans when it comes to Blacks. (I ended up writing this paper, but from a different lens)

The above connects to some recent research about Blacks and cultural acceptance and how some Blacks who aren’t culturally accepted by other Blacks for whatever reason tend to go to the extreme opposite of the spectrum in order to find acceptance. That acceptance for that “in-group” comes with a disdain for other Blacks because of who they are culturally and what they believe in culturally. So it’s ultimately the Black person going to the extreme opposite in order to find acceptance/an in-group and that in-group/accepting group just happens to stand for all of the things that go against that Black person—but because that Black person feels accepted, they end up believing those things under the guise of “I’m not one of them.” (Candiace Owens, Byron Donalds, Wesley Hunt, etc.) So these people know the in-group they are apart of goes against their interest and hates them based on their skin tone, but they are willing to be used as the token for that group because that’s the group that accepted them and didn’t make fun of them like other Blacks did at one point. This goes in line with that guy saying “I know he’s racist, but…” It’s clear he listens to radical right wing media and has radical Republican friends just based on the other talking points he brought up.

TLDR: some Blacks on the radical right are over on that side because that side accepted them when Blacks didn’t at some point in their life. It borders on a trauma response. 

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5 minutes ago, Pancho said:

TLDR: some Blacks on the radical right are over on that side because that side accepted them when Blacks didn’t at some point in their life. It borders on a trauma response. 

I mean, I assume they’re a lot like Clarence. They’re married to a white man/woman so they see themselves as white now/interacting in white spaces only and you usually end up politically identifying with your social circle  

And the rest are grifting 

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34 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:


Springsteen was one of the best concerts / shows I’ve ever attended. He was amazing 

The one time I saw him, he played for about 3 hours then did a 45-minute encore that in itself was better than most other concerts I've seen.

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Springsteen is good but he ain’t no Kid Rock.

Speaking of trash performers, why hasn’t Ted Nugent been more prominent this go round with the GOP? Did he adopt a new, young girlfriend again or something else wrong with him?

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9 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Springsteen is good but he ain’t no Kid Rock.

Speaking of trash performers, why hasn’t Ted Nugent been more prominent this go round with the GOP? Did he adopt a new, young girlfriend again or something else wrong with him?

Not enough chili cook-offs, apparently. 

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Posted
5 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

None of them were going to vote Trump.  They weren't going to vote.  I'm telling you, a 20-year-old kid, no matter how high their IQ, they just don't process everything like people with less tread on the tires.

I know this response is late but I had something happen this week that reminded me about my 18yr old self. My grandma game me a book when I was 14 or so that was basically propaganda about how oppressed the confederacy was and how they weren't that bad. It caused me to have a fucked up view of the world until I sought out more information. I had to actively look for it. If I wasn't proactive, I could have lived in my ignorance forever. It is easy to do so.

I was taking care of my mom after she had surgery and while at her house I saw the book. I cracked it and read a few pages and realized how crazy it is now. Hell, the cover is a confederate flag. 

Kids are 100% a product of their environment and even at 20 do not have a solid grasp on anything. Hell, I am over 40 and still struggle to reconcile everything. 

 

 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

I’m going to guess this Black guy also tried to rush KA in college too.

 

There’s something about Black people like this, both male and female (although mostly Black males). I did some research during grad school about Blacks, identity, and in-groups/out-groups. This came from a class discussion about gender, sexuality, and culture so there was a connection. Anywho, the argumentation from that class discussion spurned the argument I was going to make in a paper of why Black male athletes play sports for PWIs when some of those PWIs (namely the university of Mississippi) have such a terrible past and terrible fans when it comes to Blacks. (I ended up writing this paper, but from a different lens)

The above connects to some recent research about Blacks and cultural acceptance and how some Blacks who aren’t culturally accepted by other Blacks for whatever reason tend to go to the extreme opposite of the spectrum in order to find acceptance. That acceptance for that “in-group” comes with a disdain for other Blacks because of who they are culturally and what they believe in culturally. So it’s ultimately the Black person going to the extreme opposite in order to find acceptance/an in-group and that in-group/accepting group just happens to stand for all of the things that go against that Black person—but because that Black person feels accepted, they end up believing those things under the guise of “I’m not one of them.” (Candiace Owens, Byron Donalds, Wesley Hunt, etc.) So these people know the in-group they are apart of goes against their interest and hates them based on their skin tone, but they are willing to be used as the token for that group because that’s the group that accepted them and didn’t make fun of them like other Blacks did at one point. This goes in line with that guy saying “I know he’s racist, but…” It’s clear he listens to radical right wing media and has radical Republican friends just based on the other talking points he brought up.

TLDR: some Blacks on the radical right are over on that side because that side accepted them when Blacks didn’t at some point in their life. It borders on a trauma response. 

I mostly agree, although I think they’re more cynical than it appears. They correctly assess the degree to which they can be valuable to non dominants who traffic in race hatred by being willing mouthpieces for their beliefs, while making bank at the same time. As Trump ramps

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They will only see what they are looking for. I agree with @Brisketexan & @Willfully Horn. Discourse is dead. Persuasion is useless. All you can expect from the cultists will be condescension or betrayal. 

It occurs to me as I see some of the above discussion about Black voters who choose Trump. Often it's wondered how they can so blindly vote against their own interest. Everybody who is not rich and voting for Trump is voting against their own interests. 

If it's only a single digit percentage of Black men voting Trump, they're beating the fuck out of the white man vote.



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