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2024 Presidential Election Thread - Let's keep the party going.

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1 minute ago, Huckleberry said:

That was covered by my statement that he lacks pride. But he absolutely would go along with someone else's plan to do that kind of thing in his name, he just wouldn't come up with it himself. 

Yeah, the difference between Cruz and Trump is that it was Trump's idea to do a coup. A coup wouldn't have even entered Cruz's mind as a possibility until someone else suggested it.  

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33 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Not sure he’d incite a riot. They’re in different categories. I abhor Cruz. Our daughters go to the same camp so I’m exposed to him for a day every summer. He’s very aloof and is basically a fat dork. One of his daughters got booted from the camp a few years ago because she’s fucked up. I give Cruz credit for not making a big stink about it, or pulling his other daughter from camp. I fully expected him to do both. 

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3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

FL always starts R and then we all sit and watch as Miami-Dade votes keep trickling in and it just doesn't quite make it turn blue.  Hoping this year is different, but expectations are low, because Florida.

Mailing in my Dade ballot today.  LFG

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

My final straw with Trump?  I never voted for him.

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22 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Yeah, the difference between Cruz and Trump is that it was Trump's idea to do a coup. A coup wouldn't have even entered Cruz's mind as a possibility until someone else suggested it.  

Now go do that smooth coup that you do SO WELL

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just caught up with the last few pages and i'm reading that the gop is getting tired of trump, and after he loses next month, he'll be out of the picture by 2028.

lolol.

have y'all learned nothing? if he's drawing oxygen, he will run, and likely win the nomination. must we do this every 4 years?

3 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

just caught up with the last few pages and i'm reading that the gop is getting tired of trump, and after he loses next month, he'll be out of the picture by 2028.

lolol.

have y'all learned nothing? if he's drawing oxygen, he will run, and likely win the nomination. must we do this every 4 years?

Think how shitty and low energy he looks now. Add 4 years to that and he'll be a walking bloated corpse. If anything, he'll try to foist his low IQ sons onto the GOP. 

50 minutes ago, wood said:

Yeah I'm a retired firefighter and I'm pissed, too. I'm starting the process to end my union dues right now. Fuck that shit. BTW, they don't ask the firefighters who we  want to back. They never have. For my entire career they've backed the Democratic candidate. Why they chose to sit this one out is mind-boggling. 

Because in 2024 America, particularly for the men who dominate many blue collar ranks, it has become more important to hate the "other," defined as "any and all groups smaller and weaker than yours," than it is to support someone who might actually make things better for everyone.

It's as if they were shopping for a product, and they were shown one that has all the features they SHOULD want, but they ask "but....will it be cruel to/punish people weaker than me?"  If the answer is "no," they pass on the purchase.  They'd rather buy an unreliable POS that offers them nothing, but features "NOW FEATURING 'FUCK OVER THE WEAK'!"  They can't buy those fast enough, they're flying off the shelves.

 

9 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

just caught up with the last few pages and i'm reading that the gop is getting tired of trump, and after he loses next month, he'll be out of the picture by 2028.

lolol.

have y'all learned nothing? if he's drawing oxygen, he will run, and likely win the nomination. must we do this every 4 years?

I sort of hope he does because it’ll be a slam dunk to beat him a third time, but I seriously think that if he’s still alive his brain will be complete mush. Not Biden stuttering and jumbling words but full catatonic mumbling at the tv from a wheelchair. There’s no way his ego can take another loss without breaking the floodgate of dementia. If it’s a landslide he might drop dead by Jan 20.

3 hours ago, LCHorn said:

Google says Fl population is 22m.  You think 13.7m of them are new Florida voters?

Good point. That's what I get for assuming.

8 minutes ago, 'stache said:

I sort of hope he does because it’ll be a slam dunk to beat him a third time, but I seriously think that if he’s still alive his brain will be complete mush. Not Biden stuttering and jumbling words but full catatonic mumbling at the tv from a wheelchair. There’s no way his ego can take another loss without breaking the floodgate of dementia. If it’s a landslide he might drop dead by Jan 20.

a two-time loser, 82-year-old DJT with mush for brains and 4 more years of silent/boomer die off is a dream for the Democratic Party. It should be our fantasy.

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17 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

It's a fucking racket between the banks who own Congress and the colleges and universities. We can make tuition anything we want it to be and you, my friend, can borrow to come here.

It's criminal. I graduated Texas with no debt because it wasn't expensive to attend here once you got in.

I was in undergrad 88 to 92, and the state paid a pretty high percentage of the costs of education outside of housing and food. I think the most I ever paid was a semester I took 17 hours and including fees for a lab it was 1300 or so 

When I was in medical school the state was subsidizing quite a bit. Our tuition was under 6k per year. Guys 5 years ahead of me paid 1K per year. 
 

Somewhere we lost our way

1 hour ago, Pato del Muerto said:

What union benefits do retired get for their dues?

Little to nothing at all. We pay more to help support the Union in pay negotiations and some of the programs they have in place to help firefighters. 

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4 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

I was in undergrad 88 to 92, and the state paid a pretty high percentage of the costs of education outside of housing and food. I think the most I ever paid was a semester I took 17 hours and including fees for a lab it was 1300 or so 

When I was in medical school the state was subsidizing quite a bit. Our tuition was under 6k per year. Guys 5 years ahead of me paid 1K per year. 
 

Somewhere we lost our way

Because education is for commies and fags, dude.  We want us a population that is undereducated enough so they can be completely manipulated and controlled by fascist populist bullshit.  Did you not get the memo?  They distributed it at CPAC.  The Governor's Mansion has a stack of them sitting on the table in the foyer.

5 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

I was in undergrad 88 to 92, and the state paid a pretty high percentage of the costs of education outside of housing and food. I think the most I ever paid was a semester I took 17 hours and including fees for a lab it was 1300 or so 

When I was in medical school the state was subsidizing quite a bit. Our tuition was under 6k per year. Guys 5 years ahead of me paid 1K per year. 
 

Somewhere we lost our way

In fall of 72, when I entered, tuition was a flat $50 per semester.   Fees totaled $114.  Big cost was Jester at about $900 per semester room and board. 

1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

Not sure he’d incite a riot. They’re in different categories. I abhor Cruz. Our daughters go to the same camp so I’m exposed to him for a day every summer. He’s very aloof and is basically a fat dork. One of his daughters got booted from the camp a few years ago because she’s fucked up. I give Cruz credit for not making a big stink about it, or pulling his other daughter from camp. I fully expected him to do both. 

1. Nice subtle Waldemar humble brag.

2. I can’t imagine why his daughter is fucked up. Maybe he should step away from being a completely toxic piece of human garbage for the sake of his daughters, but naw, gotta own the libs.

1 hour ago, wood said:

Yeah I'm a retired firefighter and I'm pissed, too. I'm starting the process to end my union dues right now. Fuck that shit. BTW, they don't ask the firefighters who we  want to back. They never have. It's all up to the IAFF/AFL-CIO national leaders. For my entire career they've backed the Democratic candidate. Why they chose to sit this one out is mind-boggling. 

 

 

Because the new President is a Trumper. I posted and article on it earlier.

38 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

just caught up with the last few pages and i'm reading that the gop is getting tired of trump, and after he loses next month, he'll be out of the picture by 2028.

lolol.

have y'all learned nothing? if he's drawing oxygen, he will run, and likely win the nomination. must we do this every 4 years?

He had to convince his voters that the election was rigged and that he won in 2020 to keep them at his side for the past 4 years. If he loses again, it's not absurd to think the house of cards will finally fall. 

11 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The Governor's Mansion has a stack of them sitting on the table in the foyer.

Sounds like a fire hazard 

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2 hours ago, Huckleberry said:

The only reason Cruz isn't in the same category as Trump is that he's not as successful and lacks any pride. Other than that he's the same thing exactly. Doesn't care about anyone but himself and will try to stay in power by any means necessary. 

 

1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

Not sure he’d incite a riot. They’re in different categories. I abhor Cruz. Our daughters go to the same camp so I’m exposed to him for a day every summer. He’s very aloof and is basically a fat dork. One of his daughters got booted from the camp a few years ago because she’s fucked up. I give Cruz credit for not making a big stink about it, or pulling his other daughter from camp. I fully expected him to do both. 

Cruz isn't an abject moron so that's one difference. For all his faults, Trump has always had no problems getting plenty of pussy. Do we have confirmation the kids Heidi birthed are actually Ted's?

 

22 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

a two-time loser, 82-year-old DJT with mush for brains and 4 more years of silent/boomer die off is a dream for the Democratic Party. It should be our fantasy.

My fantasy is Trump loses next month, Jack Smith nails his fucking ass to the wall and the fucker dies in prison.

1 minute ago, C-Man said:

 

Cruz isn't an abject moron so that's one difference. For all his faults, Trump has always had no problems getting plenty of pussy. Do we have confirmation the kids Heidi birthed are actually Ted's?

 

My fantasy is Trump loses next month, Jack Smith nails his fucking ass to the wall and the fucker dies in prison.

And still manages to siphon off 5-10% of the R POTUS vote in ‘28 via write in of conspiratorial morons. 

51 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

just caught up with the last few pages and i'm reading that the gop is getting tired of trump, and after he loses next month, he'll be out of the picture by 2028.

lolol.

have y'all learned nothing? if he's drawing oxygen, he will run, and likely win the nomination. must we do this every 4 years?

HG gets it. And if he runs he'll definitely get their nomination and it will probably be pretty close in the general. 

7 hours ago, kevwun said:

Means they didn’t have to votes to endorse Trump which is funny.

They probably didn't, but they've historically endorsed the Democrat anyway no matter what. The national leadership doesn't poll the membership. They just decide for everyone.

There is the very real chance Trump will not be healthy enough to deal with a campaign in 2028.  He might also be facing legal consequences, although as we all know those odds are low.

I have a real concern that a Harris victory would break down the "female POTUS" barrier and we would get . . . Ivanka.

5 hours ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

In my experience, police and firefighters are generally folks with fierce unions and tremendous benefits who are also somehow are against unions for everyone else. In other words, selfish ‘for me but not for thee’ MAGA shitheads. Fuck ‘em..

Your experience with actual firefighters must be very limited then.

1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

just caught up with the last few pages and i'm reading that the gop is getting tired of trump, and after he loses next month, he'll be out of the picture by 2028.

lolol.

have y'all learned nothing? if he's drawing oxygen, he will run, and likely win the nomination. must we do this every 4 years?

 

the GoP is getting tired of trump keeping all the money. if he was spreading around some more cheese, they’d be very damn good with trump 

pigs get fed, hogs get slaughtered 

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7 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Get him, Pete. 

 

Actually, Pete is not ENTIRELY right....someone WAS "shutting down the airspace" in certain areas and preventing private helicopters from flying rescue missions.  https://thehill.com/homenews/4913942-pilot-helene-north-carolina-rescue-missions-arrest-threat/

So, a power-mad local official with a badge.....NOT the FAA, NOT FEMA.  Odds that dude votes MAGA?  Close to 100%.  Elmo continues to get everything -- every. single. thing. -- wrong.

7 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Weird fantasy. How about we are just indifferent and happy to have him out of our political lives, and the fantasy is Sydney Sweeney?

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2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

There is the very real chance Trump will not be healthy enough to deal with a campaign in 2028.  He might also be facing legal consequences, although as we all know those odds are low.

I have a real concern that a Harris victory would break down the "female POTUS" barrier and we would get . . . Ivanka.

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9 hours ago, 'stache said:

Yup. Every firefighter I’ve known is well within the trump wheelhouse. I’ve heard one say he doesn’t like socialism, etc, someone mentioned that they are part of a union and republicans are against them, response was “it’s not a union it’s just for firefighters.” Didn’t hear any follow up but my guess is that they justify the disconnect because their counterpart is the evil government and not benevolent private industry.

I was a 28 year career firefighter and my experience has been quite different. Yes, there are plenty who vote Republican and some who are hard core conservative assholes. But you get that in any line of work and there are loads of Democrats as well, and Green Party, and you name it. Even the conservatives, with rare exceptions, proudly pay their dues and back the union. Overwhelmingly in my experience, firefighters here and even moreso elsewhere are extremely pro-union, resulting in almost everyone, like me, continuing to pay union dues well past retirement age, to help the union do what unions do.

There are 300,000+ firefighters in the IAFF, and politically, they look pretty much  like the general population. I've met plenty of firefighters who are asshole conservatives. That doesn't mean most firefighters are assholes or Republicans. And I've met many who are way to the left. That doesn't make 'em Commies. The vast majority are in the middle, just as I believe is the case for the general popultaion. And, again, the firefighters don't decide who the union endorses or does not endorse. The national leadership does.

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7 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

the GoP is getting tired of trump keeping all the money. 

well, it's not up to them. if it was, mcconnell etc would've run him out on a rail the minute his losing starting affecting them, which was years ago.

it's up to the voters who live in a fantasy world. good luck convincing them of any type of abstract thought.

also, whomever is saying "he'll just play kingmaker and tell people who to vote for" it doesn't work like that either. the voters don't ever listen to him and all his picks get wiped out. it has to be him.

y'all seriously need to stop thinking about this like a political party - it's a team sport and the opponent is aggy. does that cheat sheet help at all?

36 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Because the new President is a Trumper. I posted and article on it earlier.

Yeah then fuck that POS.

29 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Typically with the line that I wouldn’t vote for him if I had AIDS and he had the cure. 

I'm pretty sure that was one of his campaign promises this cycle, except he called it the AIDS.

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To continue the firefighting tangent, this article from last December gave me a good chuckle. Essentially, all these conservative firefighters and cops moved to Idaho to get away from Commiefornia, only to find that they (and their bank accounts stuffed with generous goverment pension money) are unwelcome.

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That made him, and the hundreds of other retired California cops and firefighters flooding into the town in recent years, seem practically socialist to the old guard who find it hard to trust new arrivals with pockets full of government cash.

“It’s ludicrous” that they call themselves Republicans, Mayor Jason Pierce said during an interview on election day in early December. “You find a lot of Californians who move here don’t realize how much [liberal] baggage they’re bringing with them.”

And that’s the irony: Whether locals like it or not, California public pension money is the lifeblood of the economy in this small-government, Republican boomtown.

It’s a phenomenon happening across the West, as tens of thousands of California’s career civil servants — people who devoted their working lives to making state and local government function — decide California is no longer their home.

 

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As mayor, Pierce said he is routinely contacted by more recently arrived Californians who see garbage on the streets and, instead of picking it up themselves, ask him why the town doesn’t hire more maintenance workers. “So, you want your taxes to go up,” he said he asks them. “You want more government?”

He finds it particularly hard to understand how retired police and firefighters, who often collect more from their California pensions than their local counterparts earn in salary, can consider themselves conservatives.

“They want to give the same kind of benefits to officers and state employees here,” Pierce said. “And, it’s like, wait a minute, you literally created a huge deficit in California and now you want to do the same thing here?”

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He’s been a Republican for 41 years, he said, and left California in part because of the arrogance and entitlement he felt from Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom and his predecessor, Jerry Brown, who ran the state with no meaningful opposition and almost no regard for the feelings of Californians like him.

When he arrived in Idaho, he felt as though he was finally able to “exhale,” he said, to “relax and enjoy life.”

So it was a shock when the mayor’s supporters attacked him from the other flank, accusing him of being a RINO (Republican in name only) and a Democratic “plant.”

“I came here looking for anything that’s not the liberal, socialistic view of the government in California,” Pike said.

Asked if he thought it was hypocritical to complain about socialism in a state that provides him a $123,000-a-year pension, Pike said he figured anybody who raised such questions was just jealous.

“This is a free country, you have the option to go anywhere you want,” Pike said. “I’m not ashamed to say that I brought my CalPERS pension to Idaho.”

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-21/california-cops-firefighters-flee-california-take-pensions-to-eagle-idaho

11 minutes ago, wood said:

I was a 28 year career firefighter and my experience has been quite different. 

Yeah, I know exactly one firefighter, a Captain in Round Rock, and he's a long long way from a Trumper.  I'm sure there are plenty, though.

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Because in 2024 America, particularly for the men who dominate many blue collar ranks, it has become more important to hate the "other," defined as "any and all groups smaller and weaker than yours," than it is to support someone who might actually make things better for everyone.

It's as if they were shopping for a product, and they were shown one that has all the features they SHOULD want, but they ask "but....will it be cruel to/punish people weaker than me?"  If the answer is "no," they pass on the purchase.  They'd rather buy an unreliable POS that offers them nothing, but features "NOW FEATURING 'FUCK OVER THE WEAK'!"  They can't buy those fast enough, they're flying off the shelves.

I agree with much of what you're saying, but firefighters don't choose who to endorse. We don;t even get to choose our leadership on the national level. This is what infuriates me so much about their decision to not endorse - it makes US (the membership) look bad, and we didn't even have a say in it.

Musk is terrified that sad, orange, sack of shit is going to lose the election. 

1 hour ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Mailing in my Dade ballot today.  LFG

In a week or so check your ballot status.

Wife and I filled out our mail in ballots and dropped them off at the SOE.  Feels good.  I've now turned my attention to trying to flip a few Trumpkins I know.  I think one will vote Harris, He's starting to see the light.  The best I can get out of the other one is not to vote.  He's a bigtime BOTHSIDES BRO!

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43 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Because the new President is a Trumper. I posted and article on it earlier.

link ?

7 minutes ago, Foosters said:

To continue the firefighting tangent, this article from last December gave me a good chuckle. Essentially, all these conservative firefighters and cops moved to Idaho to get away from Commiefornia, only to find that they (and their bank accounts stuffed with generous goverment pension money) are unwelcome.

 

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-12-21/california-cops-firefighters-flee-california-take-pensions-to-eagle-idaho

I laughed at this fucking article way more then I should have…

4 hours ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

 

 

Gettin' a little dusty in here ...

7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I laughed at this fucking article way more then I should have…

I laughed because it was paywalled. 

4 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I laughed because it was paywalled. 

which is why I took the time to select the best parts and include them in the body of my post. You're welcome.

4 minutes ago, Foosters said:

which is why I took the time to select the best parts and include them in the body of my post. You're welcome.

Oh fine. Now I have to read the actual posts? And on a Friday?

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Just now, Gatorubet said:

Oh fine. Now I have to read the actual posts? And on a Friday?

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I have my secretary read me all the posts and transcribe my responses

29 minutes ago, Radical Larry said:

Musk is terrified that sad, orange, sack of shit is going to lose the election. 

musk thought once he got more personally involved, it would make all the difference. i'm enjoying that it's not going well for him.

Houston firefighters were vocally pro-Buzbee

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4 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I have my secretary read me all the posts and transcribe my responses

Does she read our posts in different voices?

5 minutes ago, Foosters said:

I have my secretary read me all the posts and transcribe my responses

I, for one, am not going to ‘fee shame’ your billable hours for ”case research”

I mean, every so often somebody posts a link to a case. Amirite???

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