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22 hours ago, hornmpa96 said:

When did you have Viasat?

Teams calls are OK and it gives me an excuse to turn off my video (which I prefer for calls which could have easily been a conference call before Covid).

I need to upgrade my equipment to get Viasat’s unlimited plan which I will do before football season as I use more data watching football games during hunting season.

I've had starlink for a couple of years. I remember getting an email from Viasat announcing their unlimited data package after we switched. The issue with calls wasn't the video. Quality was good.  It was the audio. The ping was so bad that you'd get the annoying talking over each other shit. Starlink has no issue at all with that. 

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Posted
26 minutes ago, Covri said:

This thread was more fun when it was for giving guadaloopy a hard time about his FSD fantasies and not about how Elon is trying to destroy our country from the inside.

so was life

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Posted
4 hours ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

"Where is our goddamn fire support!?!"

"Sir!  Fire support is delayed because they had to stop and charge their batteries...but the cybertruck that tows the generator ran out of juice, so it has to charge it's battery before it can come forward and charge their batteries" 

Pray that the enemy doesn't put a few rounds into the battery pack. Or that they create a chokepoint consistent of car washes.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Guadaloopy said:

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serious question for you...i drive around lamar somewhere between 5th and windsor a million times a week and every other car i see on lamar these days is a driverless waymo. they seem to drive around fine. are they more advanced than whatever shit tesla is probably fucking up right now or what? it seems like they have it somewhat figured out...at least for low-speed, non-highway driving.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Kennythetiger said:

At least it’s an ethos. 

I mean.....it was my dating M.O. sophomore year, with a decent success rate.  I'm not proud of it, but it's the truth.

Signed,

Brisketexan....my dad is part owner of the Dallas Mavericks, I can totally get us courtside seats next weekend

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Posted
40 minutes ago, sidis said:

serious question for you...i drive around lamar somewhere between 5th and windsor a million times a week and every other car i see on lamar these days is a driverless waymo. they seem to drive around fine. are they more advanced than whatever shit tesla is probably fucking up right now or what? it seems like they have it somewhat figured out...at least for low-speed, non-highway driving.

Yeah I work a couple days a week over by TPWD headquarters, and I see a ton of Waymos on Montopolis, ironically right by the Tesla building at the corner of Montopolis and Burleson.  

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50 minutes ago, sidis said:

serious question for you...i drive around lamar somewhere between 5th and windsor a million times a week and every other car i see on lamar these days is a driverless waymo. they seem to drive around fine. are they more advanced than whatever shit tesla is probably fucking up right now or what? it seems like they have it somewhat figured out...at least for low-speed, non-highway driving.

Yes Waymo is more advanced.  If you ask for an Uber in central Austin and you don't need to go on a highway, there is a chance you will get a Waymo as your driver.

I used to think there would be two major driverless car companies five years from now, Waymo and Tesla.  I now think it will be Waymo and someone to be named later.

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22 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

Yeah I work a couple days a week over by TPWD headquarters, and I see a ton of Waymos on Montopolis, ironically right by the Tesla building at the corner of Montopolis and Burleson.  

They are becoming sentient.

 

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So a few weeks ago, the astronauts were supposedly stranded in space because of political reasons in the previous administration and SpaceX could supposedly have gotten them at any time:

https://www.independent.co.uk/space/elon-musk-andreas-mogensen-stranded-astronauts-b2701764.html

Who is the asshole gonna blame now:

https://apnews.com/article/nasa-stuck-astronauts-spacex-boeing-4ac5006ba792eb86aaccb12f8174493c

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Obama, Biden, Ukraine, Canada, Mexico, Fentanyl, the EU, NATO, China, Russia, The Left, federal government workers, millionaires in congress, The Deep State, rigged elections, cities and states run by Democrats, Democrats….. take your pick

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Posted
15 hours ago, sidis said:

serious question for you...i drive around lamar somewhere between 5th and windsor a million times a week and every other car i see on lamar these days is a driverless waymo. they seem to drive around fine. are they more advanced than whatever shit tesla is probably fucking up right now or what? it seems like they have it somewhat figured out...at least for low-speed, non-highway driving.

 

14 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

Yes Waymo is more advanced.  If you ask for an Uber in central Austin and you don't need to go on a highway, there is a chance you will get a Waymo as your driver.

I used to think there would be two major driverless car companies five years from now, Waymo and Tesla.  I now think it will be Waymo and someone to be named later.

 

You'll all be shocked to hear that I disagree slightly with Jeff's answer.  The question is too general.

Waymo and Tesla are taking two different approaches.  At the moment, Waymo is focused on an approach that is trying to solve for autonomous driving limited to surface streets in urban areas.  Their solution is only applicable in geo-fenced areas that have been meticulously mapped by LIDAR. Tesla is aiming to build a more generally applicable autonomous driving solution that is not limited to pre-mapped areas.

Waymo is more advanced on the path towards a limited level 4/5 certification.

It's arguable that Waymo is more advanced in its commercial application of its chosen solution.  One could argue that from a revenue standpoint, Tesla is on par with their FSD package purchases and monthly subscriptions.

It's also arguable that Waymo is more advanced in it's practical application.  There are significantly more Tesla FSD vehicles on the road than Waymo vehicles.

And finally, it's arguable that Waymo has a more advanced technical solution at this point.  My FSD Tesla does low speed, non-highway driving right now.  It can also drive on the highway, which Waymo does not.

 

All that said... Musk is running the company into the ground and Tesla's FSD could likely be a casualty of this shitshow. 

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

 

 

You'll all be shocked to hear that I disagree slightly with Jeff's answer.  The question is too general.

Waymo and Tesla are taking two different approaches.  At the moment, Waymo is focused on an approach that is trying to solve for autonomous driving limited to surface streets in urban areas.  Their solution is only applicable in geo-fenced areas that have been meticulously mapped by LIDAR. Tesla is aiming to build a more generally applicable autonomous driving solution that is not limited to pre-mapped areas.

Waymo is more advanced on the path towards a limited level 4/5 certification.

It's arguable that Waymo is more advanced in its commercial application of its chosen solution.  One could argue that from a revenue standpoint, Tesla is on par with their FSD package purchases and monthly subscriptions.

It's also arguable that Waymo is more advanced in it's practical application.  There are significantly more Tesla FSD vehicles on the road than Waymo vehicles.

And finally, it's arguable that Waymo has a more advanced technical solution at this point.  My FSD Tesla does low speed, non-highway driving right now.  It can also drive on the highway, which Waymo does not.

 

All that said... Musk is running the company into the ground and Tesla's FSD could likely be a casualty of this shitshow. 

 

okay, i understand what you are saying about the difference between the camera and lidar approach and the ability to operate within a completely mapped, contained perimeter vs. a truly automated driver that can go anywhere and any speed (which seems questionable). i get that they are different approaches and the limitations imposed may create the ability to deliver the achieved goal quicker and more "easily."

as a non-tesla driver, i am curious - can you right now take your tesla to 5th and west lynn, turn on fsd, and get to say 15th and trinity without ever doing a thing besides sitting their doom scrolling surly?

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Just now, sidis said:

as a non-tesla driver, i am curious - can you right now take your tesla to 5th and west lynn, turn on fsd, and get to say 15th and trinity without ever doing a thing besides sitting their doom scrolling surly?

Yes - minus the doom scrolling.  The system still requires supervision, so the interior camera monitors the driver’s eyes to ensure they are watching the road.  I no longer have to keep my hands on the wheel, though.  

Posted
16 hours ago, sidis said:

serious question for you...i drive around lamar somewhere between 5th and windsor a million times a week and every other car i see on lamar these days is a driverless waymo. they seem to drive around fine. are they more advanced than whatever shit tesla is probably fucking up right now or what? it seems like they have it somewhat figured out...at least for low-speed, non-highway driving.

A human standing by, paying very close attention just as they would if they were driving themselves, with hands ready to take over the wheel at any second. That's Tesla's FSD in a nutshell because muSSk was too cheap to use proven technology like radar and lidar, and even turned those functions off in the early model years when Swasticars that had them already installed.

Oh I should add as @Guadaloopypointed out Swasticar has an internal camera to make sure the driver is paying attention. But it has nothing to do with FSD; it's there entirely to help the Swasticar company fight lawsuits. 

 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, choripan said:

This is incorrect. Waymo operates on freeways in at least California and Arizona. Google it so I don't have to do it for you. Waymo has a far more comprehensive set of sensors and is WAY ahead of Tesla, which is not even #2 in the AV game.

The difference is that Waymo generally works with regulators to establish agreed-to geofences and parameters that allow safe(r) deployment and development of the AV solution, rather than putting erratic "beta" machines on public roads and selling them as "full" self driving, with untrained drivers at the wheel.

Source: Regulatory lawyer who has spent hundreds of hours on this very issue (not for Waymo, btw. No dog in the fight.).

I stand corrected on the freeway issue.  Waymo has been testing on freeways in Phoenix since January 2024 and just moved onto LA freeways this January.

I'm curious as to the measure used to state that Waymo is "WAY ahead" of Tesla.

For the bolded, this is continuously referenced as some horrible unchecked danger to the public.  The data do not bear out this argument.

 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

I'm curious as to the measure used to state that Waymo is "WAY ahead" of Tesla.

 


I won’t speak for the person you’re quoting, but I’d guess it has something to do with this:


As of October 2024, there have been hundreds of documented nonfatal incidents involving Autopilot and fifty-one reported fatalities, forty-four of which NHTSA investigations or expert testimony later verified and two that NHTSA’s Office of Defect Investigations verified as happening during the engagement of Full Self-Driving (FSD).”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebanker/2025/02/11/tesla-again-has-the-highest-accident-rate-of-any-auto-brand/

 

 

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:


I won’t speak for the person you’re quoting, but I’d guess it has something to do with this:


As of October 2024, there have been hundreds of documented nonfatal incidents involving Autopilot and fifty-one reported fatalities, forty-four of which NHTSA investigations or expert testimony later verified and two that NHTSA’s Office of Defect Investigations verified as happening during the engagement of Full Self-Driving (FSD).”

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebanker/2025/02/11/tesla-again-has-the-highest-accident-rate-of-any-auto-brand/

 

 

 

Auto-pilot ≠ FSD. 

Two fatalities have occurred with FSD engaged.  Over three billion miles have been driven with FSD. 

Waymo has had nearly 700 accidents and one fatality with somewhere around 25 million miles driven.

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Posted
32 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

 

Waymo has had nearly 700 accidents and one fatality with somewhere around 25 million miles driven.

Someone debunked this the last time you made the claim so hopefully they're still paying attention to this thread. My memory isn't certain but as I recall Tesla's miles driven are very different from realistic driving. They also game the system.

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39 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

Auto-pilot ≠ FSD. 

Two fatalities have occurred with FSD engaged.  Over three billion miles have been driven with FSD

Waymo has had nearly 700 accidents and one fatality with somewhere around 25 million miles driven.

According to whom?

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4 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Someone debunked this the last time you made the claim so hopefully they're still paying attention to this thread. My memory isn't certain but as I recall Tesla's miles driven are very different from realistic driving. They also game the system.

Are you claiming that Musk and his companies bend the truth to serve their agenda even if it puts the public at risk?  Is that what you're claiming?  

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