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2 minutes ago, Satchel said:

That will end the practice of every Californian receiving a ballot by mail. Trump hating voting by mail.

Colorado is overwhelmingly mail vote along with a few others. 

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3 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Well, Elon and his assistant, Trump, plan to send 5-10 thousand dollar checks to SS recipients who will be duped into thinking its a good idea, only to be disabused of that notion when they receive SS checks that have been reduced by 2/3. Bamb! There’s your savings. Easy Peasy 

When my dad died when I was 17 I got his SS checks until I graduated HS or turned 18. It amounted to maybe 8k I got for his 45-50 years of paying into the system. I fully expect to see zero from SS. So glad we still get to pay into it. Fun times.

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1 minute ago, HOOKEM4 said:

When my dad died when I was 17 I got his SS checks until I graduated HS or turned 18. It amounted to maybe 8k I got for his 45-50 years of paying into the system. I fully expect to see zero from SS. So glad we still get to pay into it. Fun times.

You don't "pay into the system".  You pay FOR the system.

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1 hour ago, Satchel said:

This just in:

On Jesse Watters Primetime on Fox News on Wednesday, recently confirmed Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick hailed the work of Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency, which is “gonna cut a trillion dollars of waste fraud and abuse,” Lutnick said.

“You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicare and Medicaid is wrong, so he's going to cut one trillion,” Lutnick added. “Get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against Americans and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars in revenue, and our objective, under Donald Trump, is to balance this budget.”

That might be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read 

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51 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

But see Article 1, Section 8 of the fucking Constitution. I love how that and the blatant illegality of it all gets zero mention in the headline 

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19 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

You don't "pay into the system".  You pay FOR the system.

Very true. Even if it were viable, I wouldn't take it again. A whole bunch of my family (maga deadbeats) will hurt from it being dissolved. Just desserts I guess.

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2 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

And a balanced budget will be good for what reason?

Well if it were you or me the line in our budget related to debt service would actually start to decrease if we paid it without having to add to it.  Do I expect that with these fucking guys? No.  

Posted
8 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:

And a balanced budget will be good for what reason?

They're not trying to balance the budget.

They're going to raise the debt ceiling instead.

And all of these firings are about replacing the entire government with loyalists.  The cutting-government-waste business is just a smokescreen.

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23 minutes ago, mchookem said:

NSIAP

it's worth posting again. 

 

It's pretty great. After running into it, I posted it in the Protest Song thread a few days ago. Apparently, the internet did it's thing and there a bunch of mixes out there where folks are doing their thing and having fun with the song.

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6 hours ago, Satchel said:

This just in:

On Jesse Watters Primetime on Fox News on Wednesday, recently confirmed Commerce Secretary Howard Lutnick hailed the work of Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency, which is “gonna cut a trillion dollars of waste fraud and abuse,” Lutnick said.

“You know Social Security is wrong, you know Medicare and Medicaid is wrong, so he's going to cut one trillion,” Lutnick added. “Get rid of all these tax scams that hammer against Americans and we’re gonna raise a trillion dollars in revenue, and our objective, under Donald Trump, is to balance this budget.”

Please cut Mom’s Social Security check. Maybe that will wake her up. 

<sigh>  Probably not. 

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Called Trump a coward yesterday in my friends group chat for not going to the USA - Canada 4 nations final after talking all the trash about Trudeau/Canada but seeing how it turned out probably a good thing. His fragile little ego prob couldn’t have handled that L and would be trying to get the football from his aide postgame trying to shoot nukes at Canada…

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Europe should call our bluff. We need troops over there to maintain our hegemony.

This is what I’ve been saying. Sometimes you just have to say, “No.”. Then find a way to hit him in his wallet.
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41 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

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Actually, coming from a US District Judge, it is fairly shocking.  Not that USDJs are ignoramuses or flat-earthers (at least most of them), it's just the "professional cabining" of them usually leads to a state of ignorance and a lack of confidence on matters scientific and technical, wherein they are reliant on the parties to educate them (even if they do happen to know something about the subject matter in question).

Also.

https://apnews.com/article/trrump-doge-checks-inflation-7fb8b5b004faecc213c325fcbafc7ee9

Fuck. Me. Running.

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Why not? He's not known for being pragmatic or a deep thinker. His gut says that he likes Putin, or at least that he wants to be Putin, so he likes him. He's a simpleton with money.

Born on third and thought he hit a triple.
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6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Actually, coming from a US District Judge, it is fairly shocking.  Not that USDJs are ignoramuses or flat-earthers (at least most of them), it's just the "professional cabining" of them usually leads to a state of ignorance and a lack of confidence on matters scientific and technical, wherein they are reliant on the parties to educate them (even if they do happen to know something about the subject matter in question).

If it is Judge Ana Reyes, perhaps she did her homework prior? She seems pretty level-headed but I've got no legal background.

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2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

If it is Judge Ana Reyes, perhaps she did her homework prior? She seems pretty level-headed but I've got no legal background.

I believe it is and she probably knows this regardless.  Still, it is relatively uncommon for a federal judge to take an "independent" stance on scientific or technical issues before them.

In most senses, this is a product of the adversarial system in which the facts are those produced by the parties in evidence before the court.  Like juries are discouraged/forbidden from independently researching a case, so too do federal judges tend to avoid extrajudicial knowledge.

The rules don't forbid it for judges and federal judges in particular have more freedom to do it and to comment on it in court, even before a jury.

There's a judge in San Francisco/San Jose with a degree in math that is an amateur computer scientist who presided over Google v. Oracle and was openly independent and skeptical of some of the assertions of the parties there based on his own knowledge.

More typical, though, is Chief Judge David Godbey of the ND Tex in Dallas, who has a BSEE but feigns not knowing what a transistor does.

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2 hours ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

Called Trump a coward yesterday in my friends group chat for not going to the USA - Canada 4 nations final after talking all the trash about Trudeau/Canada but seeing how it turned out probably a good thing. His fragile little ego prob couldn’t have handled that L and would be trying to get the football from his aide postgame trying to shoot nukes at Canada…

It's just so annoying that he inserts himself into this stuff at all. Let us all enjoy a hockey game without having his dumbass make it all about him.

Same thing with the Super Bowl. Just stay out of it and stay the fuck away.

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10 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

And a balanced budget will be good for what reason?

They aren’t actually going to try to have a balanced budget. They’re going to add trillions to the debt to pay for tax cuts and they are gutting the IRS. The last Trump presidency increased the deficit more than any other administration 

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Posted
1 hour ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Really enjoying the discourse around checking Fort Knox for the gold; I bet this hits so hard if you’re fucking stupid. 
 

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What happens when they tell us Elon checked the gold and it’s not there 

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Posted
18 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I believe it is and she probably knows this regardless. 

She apparently has a bachelor's degree in poly sci (graduated summa cum laude).  It doesn't mean she had to study up on that particular subset of human genetics, but I'm guessing she had to study up.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

She apparently has a bachelor's degree in poly sci (graduated summa cum laude).  It doesn't mean she had to study up on that particular subset of human genetics, but I'm guessing she had to study up.

Just guessing her personal interests have led her to research the topic.

Also, the government, particularly one as feckless as Trump's, but all of them, put DOJ attorneys in untenable positions all the time.  The good ones, the ones Trump is running off, manage to navigate that with some dignity and candor.

The Trump DOJ will not be able to pull that off.

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Posted
29 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Still, it is relatively uncommon for a federal judge to take an "independent" stance on scientific or technical issues before them

Is it relatively common for a judge to have such a blatantly incorrect assumption as the basis of an executive order they are being asked to rule on? If you took 2nd year biology in HS you learned about chromosomal anomalies if not errors of inborn metabolism. 

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Just guessing her personal interests have led her to research the topic.

Also, the government, particularly one as feckless as Trump's, but all of them, put DOJ attorneys in untenable positions all the time.  The good ones, the ones Trump is running off, manage to navigate that with some dignity and candor.

The Trump DOJ will not be able to pull that off.

That’s ok they just keep appealing and he tells SCOTUS what to rule. They’ll dot the i’s and cross the t’s

Posted
1 minute ago, Captainant said:

 It's not a matter of scientific or technical issue though? trump's DOJ had their facts wrong. People do exist with something besides XX/XY.

 

What sort of fucked up world are we in when empirical facts are now a "technical issue"? That kind of lawyer-brain of acting like every detail is negotiable is how we end up in this goddamn mess

That's not really the case.  "Normally," the other side of the case would be all over that scientific falsity and the judge would be more like "the plaintiff here makes a valid point that the premise of the EO is scientifically incorrect."

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7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

 It's not a matter of scientific or technical issue though? trump's DOJ had their facts wrong. People do exist with something besides XX/XY.

It's even more subtle than that.  People can be an XX "intersex male".  They can be an XY "intersex female".  And then there are the multiple cases of triple chromosomes, etc.  (Not a biologist, but I did take Human Genetics for my undergrad "basic science elective" in engineering school, because otherwise i would have had to take Geology 101 or Astronomy 101 and who wants to do that?)

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12 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That's not really the case.  "Normally," the other side of the case would be all over that scientific falsity and the judge would be more like "the plaintiff here makes a valid point that the premise of the EO is scientifically incorrect."

You should stop using the phrase "normally" when it comes to our judicial proceedings. There is no law. Your vocation has been made irrelevant in a world where Calvinball is the law of the land.

All that really matters is what happens and how we react to it. There's no more rules or standards or procedures. Everything is on the table.

 

Wake up and smell the ashes.

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Posted
37 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

It's even more subtle than that.  People can be an XX "intersex male".  They can be an XY "intersex female".  And then there are the multiple cases of triple chromosomes, etc.  (Not a biologist, but I did take Human Genetics for my undergrad "basic science elective" in engineering school, because otherwise i would have had to take Geology 101 or Astronomy 101 and who wants to do that?)

Oh man you missed out. Math was minimal for the non-science major course, and that was the one lab we wouldn't skip. 8PM, smoke a bowl and then go look through the really expensive telescope at all sorts of cool shit.

Posted
42 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Huh Macklemore is still making music? Nails the current vibe, tbh

uh oh...our Macklemore ain't gonna like that, will we see another name change 🤔 lol

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