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1 hour ago, Derka said:

 

Among the MANY, MANY things that absolutely have to happen once we are through this is the jettisoning of the entire grifting clan. All of them have to get deported. You can't leave any of his kids in this country. If you don't then another generation will be revisiting this garbage down the road and it'll be the fault of those who didn't kick this grifting clan right on out of the country permanently.

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6 minutes ago, South Austin said:

He turns off Baron’s laptop, walks away, comes back later and Baron has figured out how to turn the laptop back on.
 

NASA is on line one with a job offer.

Trump probably never actually turned it off because he lacks the technical skills to do so. 

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Posted
8 hours ago, wild_turkey said:

Why does anyone under the age of 65 care what Cracker Barrel is doing? How can a rebrand of a geriatric chain restaurant be woke? I don’t understand why this is major news.

Because Epstein.

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1 hour ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Trump probably never actually turned it off because he lacks the technical skills to do so. 

I was gonna say, all that happened is Trump pressed the F key and walked away, then Baron kept looking at Manga or whatever.

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Holy shit so this morning it's being reported that the Ka$h fbi is raiding the home of John Bolton. 

"Maybe Bolton should have testified at Trump's first impeachment hearing after all."

 

 

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Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, South Austin said:

He turns off Baron’s laptop, walks away, comes back later and Baron has figured out how to turn the laptop back on.

Meet your new Director of NASA.

FIFY.

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Also, let's check in on some old friends:

(Deleted: it was the Bolton story)

 

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Bulwark: 

-Bolton was named on the “Members of the Executive Branch Deep State” list in the book Government Gangsters published in 2023 by now-FBI Director Kash Patel. 

-NY Post reporters are embedded with Bug eyes at the DC raid.

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Back to the Trump civil fraud appeal.  The opinion(s) are a divided mess.  Being a civil case, AG James is free to appeal it to the ultimate NY court of appeals, which she has vowed to do.

Looking at it further, I don't think the NY court of appeals analysis will hold up on further appeal.  It doesn't make any sense.  On one hand, it says it's an unconstitutional fine or penalty in violation of the 8th Amendment. That's something you find when an award is properly calculated, but the statutory scheme that allows it is over-generous or over-punitive, or as applied to the particular facts and damage award, it's just excessive.  It's not something you hold when there are simple errors in the damage calculation.

On the other hand, the ruling says the disgorgement penalty was miscalculated, or relied on two things, the Old Post Office lease and the Ferry Point golf course operating agreement, where fraud wasn't proven or proven adequately.  That would have knocked the award down by $195M by the court of appeals' own calculation.

When damages are miscalculated, or reliant on some element that isn't proper or proven, you remand to the trial court for a recalculation or retrial on those issues.  But that's obviously not what they did here.  They should have either remitted the disgorgement by the $195M or sent it back to Engoron to do so. I don't think that's going to survive further appeal.

Notably, the court of appeals did affirm all other aspects of the judgment, including the injunctive portions where Trump can't own a business chartered in NY.

It's possible that the further appeal undoes that, too, but it seems rather unlikely.

 

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

What I learned long ago is, raise the cost of something and then hang a sign on it that says "new low price".

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Chopper said:

In 2000 Bolton was a leader of the 'stop the count' team to rig the election for dubya.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-bolton-vs-democracy/

It's amusing to see an anti-democracy war monger of the far right get eaten by the same autocrats he helped unleash. But it also sucks because I'm assuming they rigged up some bullshit to justify the raid. 

Well, let's also remember that Kash Patel can't issue a search warrant unilaterally.  It had to be signed off by a federal judge.

The District of Maryland only has one Trump appointee, but it's usually Magistrate Judges that sign off on warrants, and one could be a sleeper agent.

Possibly more likely is that someone lied to secure the warrant.

Ironically, it would seem any charges here would be related to mishandling of classified information.  And the statute of limitations on that is five years and Bolton was out of government by 2020 at the latest.

Posted
8 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The government is carrying out literal purges and these silly mfs are worried about who gets to talk on cable news. We are cooked.

Tell the former former president and director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund what’s going on, my dude.


 

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Posted
21 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

The government is carrying out literal purges and these silly mfs are worried about who gets to talk on cable news. We are cooked.

Yeah, we’re fucked.  Who’s going to step in and stop the official coup while he’s got DC under military control?

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Posted
10 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Tell the former former president and director-counsel of the NAACP Legal Defense Fund what’s going on, my dude.


 

I’m sorry I don’t have one goddamn second for purely representational arguments about what color of well connected ivy-leaguers get to talk. 

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The Cracker Barrel stuff is amusing to me because it's just another in a long line of examples of how fragile white MAGA is. BUT THE LEFT IS ANGRY AT AMERICAN EAGLE!!! Are they? I think most people don't give a shit. But the right is surely up in arms at this Cracker Barrel redesign and what it's supposed to mean. Such massive pussies. 

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Chopper said:

If it wasn't clear that's what I meant by "rigged up some bullshit to justify the raid on Bolton."

Also for the 'fuck Bolton' crowd, sure, yes, absolutely...but this is a raid on the rule of law and you don't have to like Bolton to see that.

Not shockingly, it's being reported the raid is based on alleged possession of 'classified documents.' Shoutout to Dotard's bathroom.

edit - it will be interesting and excruciating to see the fallout from this on the right wing, non-trumptards. 

Stop assuming that there are right wing non-trumptards.

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Posted
11 minutes ago, mdmost said:

The Cracker Barrel stuff is amusing to me because it's just another in a long line of examples of how fragile white MAGA is. BUT THE LEFT IS ANGRY AT AMERICAN EAGLE!!! Are they? I think most people don't give a shit. But the right is surely up in arms at this Cracker Barrel redesign and what it's supposed to mean. Such massive pussies. 

I don't think anything actually happened from the rebrand. It's all just noise. 

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Posted (edited)
52 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, let's also remember that Kash Patel can't issue a search warrant unilaterally.  It had to be signed off by a federal judge.

The District of Maryland only has one Trump appointee, but it's usually Magistrate Judges that sign off on warrants, and one could be a sleeper agent.

Possibly more likely is that someone lied to secure the warrant.

Ironically, it would seem any charges here would be related to mishandling of classified information.  And the statute of limitations on that is five years and Bolton was out of government by 2020 at the latest.

Further to this, Royce Lamberth, Longhorn of the DC District Court, found that Bolton probably did disclose information in violation of at least his confidentiality agreement, if not classified information per se.  In June 2020, five years and two months ago.

I don't suppose limitations can be interposed as a defense to a search warrant, but it's going to make an indictment problematic.  Rap/ride and all that.  Don't have much pity for Bolton, but the tactics are obnoxious as fuck.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Chopper said:

In 2000 Bolton was a leader of the 'stop the count' team to rig the election for dubya.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-bolton-vs-democracy/

It's amusing to see an anti-democracy war monger of the far right get eaten by the same autocrats he helped unleash. But it also sucks because I'm assuming they rigged up some bullshit to justify the raid. 

Yeah, I'm not in favor of bullshit FBI raids with no cause; but if one has to happen to Bolton I shed no tears.  Fuck that mother fucker.

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Posted
1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Back to the Trump civil fraud appeal.  The opinion(s) are a divided mess.  Being a civil case, AG James is free to appeal it to the ultimate NY court of appeals, which she has vowed to do.

Looking at it further, I don't think the NY court of appeals analysis will hold up on further appeal.  It doesn't make any sense.  On one hand, it says it's an unconstitutional fine or penalty in violation of the 8th Amendment. That's something you find when an award is properly calculated, but the statutory scheme that allows it is over-generous or over-punitive, or as applied to the particular facts and damage award, it's just excessive.  It's not something you hold when there are simple errors in the damage calculation.

On the other hand, the ruling says the disgorgement penalty was miscalculated, or relied on two things, the Old Post Office lease and the Ferry Point golf course operating agreement, where fraud wasn't proven or proven adequately.  That would have knocked the award down by $195M by the court of appeals' own calculation.

When damages are miscalculated, or reliant on some element that isn't proper or proven, you remand to the trial court for a recalculation or retrial on those issues.  But that's obviously not what they did here.  They should have either remitted the disgorgement by the $195M or sent it back to Engoron to do so. I don't think that's going to survive further appeal.

Notably, the court of appeals did affirm all other aspects of the judgment, including the injunctive portions where Trump can't own a business chartered in NY.

It's possible that the further appeal undoes that, too, but it seems rather unlikely.

 

 

You typed a bunch of words but could have saved time with:

"It don't make a shit, the dotard can and will get away with everything."

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Posted
Just now, Bojack said:

Then it occurred to me that these assholes aren't going to stop with John Bolton.

Yep.  Some of us might be fist pumping because on this particular Friday the leopards are going after a huge piece of shit.  But don't be surprised if down the line another Patel-led FBI raid is going to be the Obama home.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Bojack said:

First, they came for John Bolton and I said nothing because fuck that guy and may the leopards feast on his ugly face and grotesque mustache. Then it occurred to me that these assholes aren't going to stop with John Bolton.

This.  It’s only the start.  Quite literally using the FBI now to go after enemies.  

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Posted
53 minutes ago, Chopper said:

If it wasn't clear that's what I meant by "rigged up some bullshit to justify the raid on Bolton."

Also for the 'fuck Bolton' crowd, sure, yes, absolutely...but this is a raid on the rule of law and you don't have to like Bolton to see that.

Not shockingly, it's being reported the raid is based on alleged possession of 'classified documents.' Shoutout to Dotard's bathroom.

edit - it will be interesting and excruciating to see the fallout from this on the right wing, non-trumptards. 

I mean you are objectively correct, but it does warm the heart to see this stuff happening to someone who was spewing this bullshit the month before the election.

 

Posted
10 minutes ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

This.  It’s only the start.  Quite literally using the FBI now to go after enemies.  

[Laughs in Hoover]

Not like the FBI has ever been involved in illegal and totalitarian behavior

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Posted
49 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

Yeah, I'm not in favor of bullshit FBI raids with no cause; but if one has to happen to Bolton I shed no tears.  Fuck that mother fucker.

Why do you think an unpopular man with the left was chosen to test the waters for using the FBI against those critical of Donald Trump and his successors?

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Posted
17 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

Why do you think an unpopular man with the left was chosen to test the waters for using the FBI against those critical of Donald Trump and his successors?

Yeah. His rights are your rights, even if he is a piece of shit.

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

This.  It’s only the start.  Quite literally using the FBI now to go after enemies.  

Yes. They've been purging the independent thinkers/patriot-types (in a good way) out of the FBI so that it's now extra-fashy. There are plenty of "conservatives" who are not part of team trumptard. This is a shot to stifle internal dissent and it will echo all the way to <congress and> the supreme court. 

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Man, does anyone remember way back like nine months ago, when a large portion of Dotard's campaign was shit like putting a halt to going after your political enemies? And preserving free speech, etc? Nailed it.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Man, does anyone remember way back like nine months ago, when a large portion of Dotard's campaign was shit like putting a halt to going after your political enemies? And preserving free speech, etc? Nailed it.

wait, are you implying he lied to us?

Posted
1 hour ago, Macanudo said:

Stop assuming that there are right wing non-trumptards.

hey grok is this an indication of trump derangement symptom?



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