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6 minutes ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

"NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!" shouted from the guy who has escaped punishment for decades of immoral and illegal activities is quite the flex.

Rules for thee and not for me as the Supreme says that I’m free to crime spree. 

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9 hours ago, YChang said:

I consider myself a Texan... just not a native Texan. 

I agree with you. Do you think Roger Clemens considers you a Texan?

9 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Both of them?

Sure. But do you think Roger Clemens would include the guy in the kitchen from Saltillo?

9 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

Yea really weird. Like who gives a shit

Who gives a shit? Roger Clemens does.
He gives so much of a shit that like half of his Twitter feed is dedicated to praising a guy in the process of kicking  the guy in the kitchen out of the country. 
That’s who gives a shit.

I’m not the one gatekeeping. I know the story of this place. The constant influx of people coming here to change their lives for the better is foundational. There’s nothing less Texan than a person who does that, then when he’s made it, turns around and tries to lock the door behind him.


 

 

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16 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

That’s great and all but protests aren’t going to do anything. They are putting armed military in the streets because they want a fight.

National strike is the only option.

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41 minutes ago, BevoAbyss said:

I totally get the hate for Clemens. Total Trumper-fascist type. 

But what about that #1 ranked football team that so many worship?

Ya know it is filled with white boy punk fascists who voted for Trump. QE was a Trumper, wasn't he? Didn't Manning do a quick Trump dance on the field in the Florida game? 

Those fascist footballers voted for

-- destroying the rights of women and people of color

-- destroying the environment

-- destroying the Constitution and Bill of Rights as masked gangs roundup and deport immigrants (and other categories of people soon).

-- destroying American science and medical research

-- the destruction of secular civilization so the White Nationalist Christians can shove a Bible down our throats. 

Don't make excuses for them. They knew what they were voting for, just like all the people with leopards munching on their faces.

That these kids populate and are worshipped at a supposedly top-shelf university only illustrates the failure of education in this country, the absolute triumph of celebrity, the merger of identity into naked tribalism.

That the football players basically get a free pass on this site is even more proof of the previous sentence.

Fuck any UT football player that voted for Trump. 

Time's up for looking the other way because they play football.

I doubt any of them bothered voting.  It's not what the utes do.

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3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

For more than 40 years a large number of Americans have been told (and have now embraced) that lawyers, reporters, newspapers, government, and unions are the enemies of the common man. The non-voting Americans either agree or don't care.

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1 hour ago, BevoAbyss said:

I totally get the hate for Clemens. Total Trumper-fascist type. 

But what about that #1 ranked football team that so many worship?

Ya know it is filled with white boy punk fascists who voted for Trump. QE was a Trumper, wasn't he? Didn't Manning do a quick Trump dance on the field in the Florida game? 

Those fascist footballers voted for

-- destroying the rights of women and people of color

-- destroying the environment

-- destroying the Constitution and Bill of Rights as masked gangs roundup and deport immigrants (and other categories of people soon).

-- destroying American science and medical research

-- the destruction of secular civilization so the White Nationalist Christians can shove a Bible down our throats. 

Don't make excuses for them. They knew what they were voting for, just like all the people with leopards munching on their faces.

That these kids populate and are worshipped at a supposedly top-shelf university only illustrates the failure of education in this country, the absolute triumph of celebrity, the merger of identity into naked tribalism.

That the football players basically get a free pass on this site is even more proof of the previous sentence.

Fuck any UT football player that voted for Trump. 

Time's up for looking the other way because they play football.

He's not wrong.

But I really want to win every game; it's been 20 years.

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53 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

National strike is the only option.

in six months, much of the nation will have 24/7 free time from their former employment to participate in protests.

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I don't care what Roger Clemens or any other shitty Texan thinks about who is or isn't a Texan.

The easiest bar to clear is "born in Texas".  The next easiest is "born of two Texans".  The next is "born of at least one Texan".  The next would be some version of "lived (or based) in Texas for the majority of their life".  Draw your line where you want to.  Roger's kids were born and raised in Texas.  His nomadic lifestyle as a pro athlete isn't all that different than that of a white collar salesman, and I don't see people trying to gatekeep THEIR status when their wife and kids are living in Texas and have done so for years if not decades.

Dumb argument.  Is it Saturday yet?

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16 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I don't care what Roger Clemens or any other shitty Texan thinks about who is or isn't a Texan.

The easiest bar to clear is "born in Texas".  The next easiest is "born of two Texans".  The next is "born of at least one Texan".  The next would be some version of "lived (or based) in Texas for the majority of their life".  Draw your line where you want to.  Roger's kids were born and raised in Texas.  His nomadic lifestyle as a pro athlete isn't all that different than that of a white collar salesman, and I don't see people trying to gatekeep THEIR status when their wife and kids are living in Texas and have done so for years if not decades.

I’m not gatekeeping, this isn’t about a rule, and in general I agree with you.
This is about him personally.
It’s similar to Ken Paxton. His Texan status was acquired and based on his behavior he seems unworthy of the honor. 

Posted (edited)
2 hours ago, BevoAbyss said:

Ya know it is filled with white boy punk fascists who voted for Trump. QE was a Trumper, wasn't he? Didn't Manning do a quick Trump dance on the field in the Florida game? 

I’m all about accountability, but I don’t take the political opinions of males under 25 seriously for the same reason I don’t look to them for advice.
They’re just trying on costumes at this point in life.

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5 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m all about accountability, but I don’t take the political opinions of males under 25 seriously for the same reason I don’t look to them for advice.
They’re just trying on costumes at this point in life.

I voted for Republicans every cycle after I turned 18 in 1994 until I got tired of the direction the country was going in 2008. I guess I should be cancelled by people like BevoAbyss because I voted the wrong way when I was young. 

49 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

 

More refreshing small government conservatism and free market capitalism!

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13 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m all about accountability, but I don’t take the political opinions of males under 25 seriously for the same reason I don’t look to them for advice.
They’re just trying on costumes at this point in life.

Case in point - I identified as Republican as an undergraduate in the mid-1990s.  It was all I really knew growing up Catholic and the son of a Marine who lived in small-town military bases my whole life.  

Edit:  Oh, and I was an apathetic Republican, as I never even voted until the 2004 election (voted for Kerry over Bush).  If there are Trump fans on our football team, I bet most of them didn't vote in this last election.

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When I was around 24 and living in LA, a friend asked me if I was Republican or Democrat. It's something I had never even though about as I was too immature to care about politics, and said "I guess I'm a Republican since I'm from Texas". LOL.

Then 9/11 happened and it changed everything. 

 

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I turned 18 right after the 1996 election, so my first time to vote was the 2000 election and being from texas and coming from a catholic school background, of course I voted for bush. I quickly regretted that and changed course after, but yeah, trying to predict how anyone under 30 is going to vote moving forward is likely a tough prospect.

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7 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I turned 18 right after the 1996 election, so my first time to vote was the 2000 election and being from texas and coming from a catholic school background, of course I voted for bush. I quickly regretted that and changed course after, but yeah, trying to predict how anyone under 30 is going to vote moving forward is likely a tough prospect.

My vote for Bush in 2000 was the last time I voted for a Republican.

 

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4 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

trying to predict how anyone under 30 is going to vote moving forward is likely a tough prospect.

Some folks even change their political affiliation much later in life.

My mom for instance [South Austin’s mom joke No. 2,459 in 3,2,1]. She and my dad were Republicans as long as I remember, but my mom went full Democrat after voting for George W. Bush in 2000. She just couldn’t take the direction of that party. 

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26 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I voted for Republicans every cycle after I turned 18 in 1994 until I got tired of the direction the country was going in 2008. I guess I should be cancelled by people like BevoAbyss because I voted the wrong way when I was young. 

 

Same. I voted for the Republican presidential nominee every year starting in 1992 (my first Presidential Election) until voting for Joe Biden in 2020. (I didn't vote in 2016. Boy was that naive and dumb.)

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Just now, C-Man said:

Same. I voted for the Republican presidential nominee every year starting in 1992 (my first Presidential Election) until voting for Joe Biden in 2020. (I didn't vote in 2016. Boy was that naive and dumb.)

Addendum -- can't remember if I voted for Romney in 2012. I might have sat that one out too. I definitely voted for McCain even though he had a complete imbecile as a running mate. If Kasich had won the GOP nom in 2016, I would've easily voted for him.

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5 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Some folks even change their political affiliation much later in life.

My mom for instance [South Austin’s mom joke No. 2,459 in 3,2,1]. She and my dad were Republicans as long as I remember, but my mom went full Democrat after voting for George W. Bush in 2000. She just couldn’t take the direction of that party. 

my folks as well. took dotard to make them finally wake up, but they're firmly in the fuck trump camp

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My mom and dad never talked politics or revealed who they voted for until later in life.  My guess would be that Dad was a Republican, and Mom an independent.  Both were very kind church-going Presbyterians who did a ton of charity work.  Nevertheless, Dad had some "love the sinner, hate the sin" social outlooks.

That changed when a NYC stage actor stayed with them one summer because he was the lead in a play at the Equity theater my sister founded and ran.  This guy was gay, and my dad and he eventually became very good friends.  Then his friend died of AIDS.  It about broke my dad.  He became much more liberal in his later years, and my mom became more vocal in that regard as well.  They never left the church but they definitely helped drive church policy (which was always pretty progressive in that world).

The idea that a person should be a liberal in their youth and a conservative in their later years is incredibly short-sighted.  It may be common, but it's not universal, not by a long shot.

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7 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

my folks as well. took dotard to make them finally wake up, but they're firmly in the fuck trump camp

Unfortunately my dad is a full Trumper, but he learned a few years ago to not talk politics around us.

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32 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

My mom and dad never talked politics or revealed who they voted for until later in life.  My guess would be that Dad was a Republican, and Mom an independent.  Both were very kind church-going Presbyterians who did a ton of charity work.  Nevertheless, Dad had some "love the sinner, hate the sin" social outlooks.

That changed when a NYC stage actor stayed with them one summer because he was the lead in a play at the Equity theater my sister founded and ran.  This guy was gay, and my dad and he eventually became very good friends.  Then his friend died of AIDS.  It about broke my dad.  He became much more liberal in his later years, and my mom became more vocal in that regard as well.  They never left the church but they definitely helped drive church policy (which was always pretty progressive in that world).

The idea that a person should be a liberal in their youth and a conservative in their later years is incredibly short-sighted.  It may be common, but it's not universal, not by a long shot.

My Aunt and Uncle were died Red Reagan Republicans.  He was an oil man. They are liberal now. Trump's behavior during his first term bothered them, but his rejection of Science during Covid infuriated my Uncle.  

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1 hour ago, South Austin said:

Some folks even change their political affiliation much later in life.

My mom for instance [South Austin’s mom joke No. 2,459 in 3,2,1]. She and my dad were Republicans as long as I remember, but my mom went full Democrat after voting for George W. Bush in 2000. She just couldn’t take the direction of that party. 

My dad always voted R and my mom always D.  My dad immediately voted D as soon as the Rs nominated the dotard in 2015.  Wasn't even a moment's hesitation.

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5 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

My dad always voted R and my mom always D.  My dad immediately voted D as soon as the Rs nominated the dotard in 2015.  Wasn't even a moment's hesitation.

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10 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

My dad always voted R and my mom always D.  My dad immediately voted D as soon as the Rs nominated the dotard in 2015.  Wasn't even a moment's hesitation.

Lucky

Posted
3 hours ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

National strike is the only option.

It's the only way to get the needed attention and NOT get sent to a concentration camp or shot.

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I guess I don't understand how a person can say "I am a Democrat" or "I am a Republican" and really identify with a party unless they are deeply involved in the party itself or the daily business of winning and losing elections. 
It's one thing to consistently vote for members of a party, and I do, but the tribal element is very strange. Corporations don't identify with a party, why should a person? This is a transaction for me - my vote in exchange for X, where X is whatever I expect to get or happen as a result of voting a certain way.

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