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45 minutes ago, scottsins said:


So there are about 4 or 4 theories on why Southern bases were named after Confederate Generals.

Not a single one of them is what you have stated.

Multiple can be true at the same time. It’s widely understood why they named the bases after confederate generals. But naming them after two southern generals who were both famous and had been reconned by tradition into something other than the failures both on and off the battlefield they weee understood to be in their own lives is exactly the kind of ironic genius that institutional bureaucracy produces when politicians force it to something repellent and contrary to its mission.
Are you honestly saying that naming bases after John Bell Hood and Braxton fucking Bragg were good faith attempts to honor the gallant conduct of the confederate forces? Come on man. That’s Lost Cause bullshit. 

Posted
2 hours ago, mdmost said:

Not really. My junior high growing up was named after John Bell Hood. It certainly wasn't to poke fun at the south. It was a middle finger to blacks daring to move into white areas like Pleasant Grove. 

When the army does it, it’s irony. When the local school board does it, it’s ignorance.

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Fleshing out the point for clarity:

For various reasons the Federal government wanted to build bases in the south. Politicians wanted to name those southern bases after confederates to garner support from southern people, who had been lied to systematically about the past.
Part of the “lost cause” myth involved rehabbing some pretty terrible officers like Bragg and Hood (who were reviled in their own time and survived the war to die in or near poverty) into heroes.
So, when the politicians told the war department and the army to name bases after traitors, the army gave them bases named after the men whose mistakes and failures were key moments in losing the war. Good bull. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Elvis said:

Y'all are so out of touch it is laughable. 

you're just one of those regressive degenerate imbeciles butthurt because you can't say the n-word and r-word and f-word without taking heat for it. 

it's called growing up and using your brain and having a sense of common decency, you colossal fucking asshole.

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2 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

you're just one of those regressive degenerate imbeciles butthurt because you can't say the n-word and r-word and f-word without taking heat for it. 

it's called growing up and using your brain and having a sense of common decency, you colossal fucking asshole.

I haven’t written anything that leads to any of those accusations or assumptions.  That is an utterly absurd post filled with hate. You have no basis to make these statements. 
 

You sir, are a bigot. 

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2 minutes ago, Elvis said:

I haven’t written anything that leads to any of those accusations or assumptions.  That is an utterly absurd post filled with hate. You have no basis to make these statements. 
 

You sir, are a bigot. 

you think anyone who takes offense to the name "Redskin" as an official team name of a multi-billion dollar NFL franchise is laughably out of touch, and I'm the bigot?

LOL. 

I'm sorry my words accurately described you. Go fuck yourself in the unkindliest way possible.

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2 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

you think anyone who takes offense to the name "Redskin" as an official team name of a multi-billion dollar NFL franchise is laughably out of touch, and I'm the bigot?

LOL. 

I'm sorry my words accurately described you. Go fuck yourself in the unkindliest way possible.

How comfortable are you using the slur ginger to refer to red headed people?  

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Elvis said:

How comfortable are you using the slur ginger to refer to red headed people?  

Are you saying that gingers are the redheaded stepchildren of historically oppressed people in the United States?

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Elvis said:

How comfortable are you using the slur ginger to refer to red headed people?  

the fact that you think that is a slur is hilarious

Posted
3 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

the fact that you think that is a slur is hilarious

Redskin was not considered to be a slur for a very long time.   I never wrote anything condoning the use of the term. I never wrote anything promoting a white history month. 
 

The fact that you find it hilarious that I am insulted by a term that is specifically meant to be hurtful regarding the pigmentation of my skin proves you are a bigot. 
 

You are a mindless fool incapable of discourse. 
 

Keep showing your ass, bigot. 
 

 

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5 minutes ago, Elvis said:

Redskin was not considered to be a slur for a very long time.   I never wrote anything condoning the use of the term. I never wrote anything promoting a white history month. 
 

The fact that you find it hilarious that I am insulted by a term that is specifically meant to be hurtful regarding the pigmentation of my skin proves you are a bigot. 
 

You are a mindless fool incapable of discourse. 
 

Keep showing your ass, bigot. 
 

 

 

You're right. Boston Celtics is too PC. They should change the name to Boston Gingers.

Posted
1 hour ago, Elvis said:

Have a good laugh you hypocrites and bigots.  All of your posts past, present, and future on any type of racism are now invalid.  
 

Perhaps you should reflect on what you actually believe in, both morally and socially; definitely politically. 
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_against_people_with_red_hair

Perhaps you should shut the fuck up. You come in here and post a bunch of dumbass shit, get roasted, then try to cry and act like you're being persecuted. No, you're just a fucking idiot.

Posted
2 hours ago, Pam Cummings said:

Perhaps you should shut the fuck up. You come in here and post a bunch of dumbass shit, get roasted, then try to cry and act like you're being persecuted. No, you're just a fucking idiot.

Perhaps people should stop feeding the troll. He’s successfully derailed the thread to the point where we’re talking about redheads. I swear, Surly has to be the most easily trolled forum on the internet. Start a thread about a storm and the discussion will quickly devolve to where everyone is trying to explain to a troll why water is wet. Storm? What storm?

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Posted
11 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

How about you just keep posting pics of your wife in the other forum and leave this discussion to those of us who actually understand historical context?

Enjoy your ban. You know better and that should never have been typed. 

 

For clarification - it was the first part of the post, pretty obvious what is over the line. 

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When texags is shaking their heads at trumps attempt at distraction/overreach you know it’s asinine. 

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You think the president should be able to order a company to change its name?

Last week he threatened to take away Rosie O’Donnell’s citizenship because he doesn’t like her.

Again, all of these freedom loving liberty loving small govt conservatives just have to notice at some point right? So weird.
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Posted
7 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

You think the president should be able to order a company to change its name?

Yes.  He should demand Coca Cola changes its name to Trumpa Cola and if they don't, he will arrest everyone that works there and put them in prison. I think this is normal for the United States.  

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I did not open this thread expecting to find a bunch of Anti-Ginger stuff and a dipshit defending "Redskins," but this is absolutely the worst timeline, so:

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IDC about the Guardians, that's a Cleveland problem, from a DC perspective, becuase Trump can cancel DC's lease on the RFK stadium site, he actually could affect the Commanders future plans.  Harris can't build unless he can secure financing, which as of yesterday's tweet is now in jeopardy. Most directly, if VA goes Blue in the 2025 off year elections, the chances that Virginia offers the Commanders a fully paid stadium, with retail and development rights somewhere in the DC exurbs is very, very strong.  Everyone wants the staidum on the old RFK site, but if the money is right, Harris isn't going to say no and the Owners will lean on him to take a deal with no private financiing/buy in. As the 49ers discovered, you can always B roll the city night shots for MNF. 

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Posted
13 hours ago, Elvis said:

The reading comprehension among so-called intellectuals is also laughable.  I asked two questions.  
 

Congratulations on making a giant social justice warrior leap based on foolish assumptions.  
 

This place continues to be a pit of despair that is vertically aligned downward to an endless echo chamber.  
 

You know so very little about me or my beliefs.  Yet a single question causes a swarm of hornets to unite in attacking an assumed hint of opposition. 

It's hilarious that you think this post sounds smart. I can picture you sitting there as you edited it a dozen times until it sounded like you think smart people sound. So many awkward phrases jammed into 6 sentences. 

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Nearly without fail, every time a conservative chud comes into CR to pick a fight, they say something along the lines of "you don't know anything about me!" They're just so goddamned boring. 

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Posted
14 hours ago, Elvis said:

The reading comprehension among so-called intellectuals is also laughable.  I asked two questions.  
 

Congratulations on making a giant social justice warrior leap based on foolish assumptions.  
 

This place continues to be a pit of despair that is vertically aligned downward to an endless echo chamber.  
 

You know so very little about me or my beliefs.  Yet a single question causes a swarm of hornets to unite in attacking an assumed hint of opposition. 

The statement/question you made carried a pretty plain implication:  there's nothing wrong with having a white history month.  

If that's not what you meant, then you shouldn't have been so cryptic about it.

 

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No one really answered why such a racist idea (white history month) would be a problem. Black history month is also racist.  However, this is off topic, so I digress. 
 

Most of yall are openly racist bigots.  

Posted (edited)
35 minutes ago, Elvis said:

No one really answered why such a racist idea (white history month) would be a problem. Black history month is also racist.  However, this is off topic, so I digress. 
 

Most of yall are openly racist bigots.  

Black history month is not racist.  It's an acknowledgement that a seriously oppressed minority in this country has a history beyond simply being seriously oppressed.  It doesn't put anyone else down.  And it's a history that's never gotten equal or any other time in our schools.

And, for the United States of America, pretty much every month since 1789 has been white history month.

I suppose you could argue that it is "discriminatory" because it draws a distinction between black and white.  But discriminatory is not automatically racist.

It's as if you think we never thought of any of this.

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32 minutes ago, Elvis said:

No one really answered why such a racist idea (white history month) would be a problem. Black history month is also racist.  However, this is off topic, so I digress. 
 

Most of yall are openly racist bigots.  

how old were you when you learned of the Tulsa Massacre? Or did you learn it as the Tulsa Race Riots?

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Posted
2 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Elvis is not an idiot.  He does live in Trumplandia (East Texas somewhere) in his own echo chamber.

if the first part is true then he is a trolling asshole. those are the only two options. well, maybe C, both A and B. but don't pretend for a second there is any naivete at play here.

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10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Elvis is not an idiot.  He does live in Trumplandia (East Texas somewhere) in his own echo chamber.

I live in Round Rock in a diverse suburb. Asian, Indian, black, white, Russian, Mexican/Latino, probably more.  Oh yeah Israeli and Pakistani.  Gays too.   I don’t discriminate against any of them.  Unless they don’t mow their lawn. 
 

Racism and bigotry has no value, obviously. But if someone, anyone, acts a fool, their behavior skews my judgment about them and how much respect they have earned. Some behavior is stereotypical and quickly revealed. That’s just the nature of humanity. 
 

My career has lead me to every corner and culture of America. I treat every fairly and equally. 
 

Perhaps y’all should try that for a day and see how it feels. 



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