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We should reassign Milwee and replace him with David Cutcliffe for the rest of the season.  Maybe he can help Arch get sorted out.  What we have is not fucking working.  

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Never give a coach a guaranteed long-term contract. It fucks with his head more often than not and you can't do anything about it. At least hold off until he wins a national championship.

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I’m not as seasoned of a CFB spectator as some of you boys, but I’ve got about 15 years of solid ball watching under my belt. I can’t think of one example of a mediocre team improving week to week, so much so that they’re almost a different team by the end of the season. It’s Week 3 and you can damn near count the number of legitimate successful offensive drives on one hand. That’s not going to change overnight. That was a tough watch today, preparing myself mentally for a season of it. 

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27 minutes ago, CastHorn said:

I’m not as seasoned of a CFB spectator as some of you boys, but I’ve got about 15 years of solid ball watching under my belt. I can’t think of one example of a mediocre team improving week to week, so much so that they’re almost a different team by the end of the season. It’s Week 3 and you can damn near count the number of legitimate successful offensive drives on one hand. That’s not going to change overnight. That was a tough watch today, preparing myself mentally for a season of it. 

Yea, it’s a 2026 fix. We’ll see if the D can keep us in enough games to keep it a respectable season.

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Going into this 3 game stretch, I didn’t think we would learn anything about this team. I was completely wrong. In 2 weeks, it’s become clear that:

1. Arch is awful. He can’t hit the broadside of a barn from 5 yards away. Is he the most significant recruiting bust of all time at Texas? At this point, he’s clearly the worst QB in the conference.

2. The interior OL sucks. How does Stroh have a spot in this team? 

3. The WRs are completely uninterested in blocking. Watching Ryan Wingo whiff on multiple defenders on a single play - amazing.

4.This team is incredibly undisciplined. Too many penalties every week.

Sark will need to start taking easy field goals because this team will have to win SEC games 9-7 or with defensive scores.

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The title of this thread should be changed to “ I have a ton of concerns going forward.”  

My enthusiasm meter has now dropped to the equivalent of waiting at a dentist office for a root canal.   

The fact Sark can’t see Arch is broken out there is very concerning.   

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2 minutes ago, Nueces River Rat said:

The title of this thread should be changed to “ I have a ton of concerns going forward.”  

My enthusiasm meter has now dropped to the equivalent of waiting at a dentist office for a root canal.   

The fact Sark can’t see Arch is broken out there is very concerning.   

The fact Sark wants to continue to Call plays and be the head coach shall be his undoing.

if he wants to continue to do that despite the fact that every other fucking coach who has done this winds up getting forced to hire a fucking OC right before they get fired, he needs to get in the fucking booth. Move some of the staff around. Particularly Milwee. 
 

Sark is not super human. He can’t overcome the overwhelming evidence that coaches cannot do both. 

I love our coaching staff. I think though some changes need to be made. Shuffling around. But it’s like moving the deck chairs around on the Titanic. Eventually being both the HC and OC catches up with you. Because in year 4-5 you should be showing on the offensive side of the ball what PK is showing on his side. 
 

our red zone shit the last three years put us in like the bottom 15 % of the FBS. The basement. The last three years. Yes QB play and dudes making plays contributes. But Sark is the one constant and the red zone woes are mostly in him. Vanilla play calling that looks like he ain’t seeing what the defense is doing. 
 

Don’t believe me…look at the stats. The last three years of red zone woes and offensive metrics sho that the defense and PK are bailing our team out a TON. see the stats below. 
 

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/giveaways-per-game

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I'm concerned Arch is Garrett Gilbert and the pressure of being the guy at Texas is too much for a guy who may just never was ready to step up to D1 given the competition he faced in high school. 3 years in this system, studying and preparing for this moment and he looks like a backup thrown in cold to try to win a game against an opponent who overwhelms him. I'm concerned he can't figure it out but I guess we'll see against Sam Houston St. Now what happens if he turns in this same performance against them? There's an entire bye week to audition the backups to step into the starting role. 

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19 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

The fact Sark wants to continue to Call plays and be the head coach shall be his undoing.

if he wants to continue to do that despite the fact that every other fucking coach who has done this winds up getting forced to hire a fucking OC right before they get fired, he needs to get in the fucking booth. Move some of the staff around. Particularly Milwee. 
 

Sark is not super human. He can’t overcome the overwhelming evidence that coaches cannot do both. 

I love our coaching staff. I think though some changes need to be made. Shuffling around. But it’s like moving the deck chairs around on the Titanic. Eventually being both the HC and OC catches up with you. Because in year 4-5 you should be showing on the offensive side of the ball what PK is showing on his side. 
 

our red zone shit the last three years put us in like the bottom 15 % of the FBS. The basement. The last three years. Yes QB play and dudes making plays contributes. But Sark is the one constant and the red zone woes are mostly in him. Vanilla play calling that looks like he ain’t seeing what the defense is doing. 
 

Don’t believe me…look at the stats. The last three years of red zone woes and offensive metrics sho that the defense and PK are bailing our team out a TON. see the stats below. 
 

https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/stat/giveaways-per-game

Agreed.  I like Sark a ton.   I admire his testimony on the personal and professional  side and we’ve all been there with some of those same struggles and given a second or third chance to correct them.   I still think he can correct them as far as program management, but it might take this season as being an underperforming season to do it.  If next  year it’s the same song and dance (IE he doesn’t bring in a seasoned and respected OC), then “Houston ,we have a problem.”    

 I hope and pray Sark is thinking to himself everyday as he leaves his office that he is the coach of the Univeristy of Texas which is a life time opportunity he could have only dreamed about six years ago and their was a reason CDC gave him a shot and he’s thinking I better not screw this up.   He has a chance to still be a generational coach meaning he’s here for a decade plus. Or his welcome is worn out and the BMD and Alumni base demand his head which will be  the tone this time next year if a course correction is not made.   

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Thread title isn’t quite Alabama Ball Gargling or Sam Bradford Seems Like He Sucks levels yet, but it is trending there, and it’s making me laugh when I visit the site and see it near the top. 

32 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I'm concerned Arch is Garrett Gilbert and the pressure of being the guy at Texas is too much for a guy who may just never was ready to step up to D1 given the competition he faced in high school. 3 years in this system, studying and preparing for this moment and he looks like a backup thrown in cold to try to win a game against an opponent who overwhelms him. I'm concerned he can't figure it out but I guess we'll see against Sam Houston St. Now what happens if he turns in this same performance against them? There's an entire bye week to audition the backups to step into the starting role. 

Garrett Gilbert? Hell, I’d take Garrett Gilbert. 

Arch Manning isn’t in danger of becoming Garrett Gilbert. He looks like he’s already become the football version of Chuck Knoblauch. Steve Sax is starting to worry that Manning might have the fucking yips.

I’m not “worried” about it, personally. I’m sure of it. That dude couldn’t be more mentally weak between the lines on a football field if he was carrying a stuffed animal out there with him and sucking on his pacifier. 

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44 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Sark is not super human. He can’t overcome the overwhelming evidence that coaches cannot do both. 

The only coach I've ever seen be "successful" at doing this was Mike Leach, but that guy always lived on another planet.

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4 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

The only coach I've ever seen be "successful" at doing this was Mike Leach, but that guy always lived on another planet.

Also the thing is: OCs that are good usually get poached by either the NFL or to be a HC of a college team. So most of the good teams don’t have the same OC consistency year over year. We are in year five of sark and the offense looks like he just got promoted from WR coach to OC and is on a learning curve. Our team hasn’t had to learn a new system. Or a ton of new shit like other teams. Arch’s play has not helped at all but the evidence has been staring is overwhelmingly in the face for the last couple of years that Sark cannot do both. He thinks he can. This year might be a watershed moment for him. Because if Arch cannot bail him out the focus will be on him like a laser as well. 

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9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Thread title isn’t quite Alabama Ball Gargling or Sam Bradford Seems Like He Sucks levels yet, but it is trending there, and it’s making me laugh when I visit the site and see it near the top. 

Garrett Gilbert? Hell, I’d take Garrett Gilbert. 

Arch Manning isn’t in danger of becoming Garrett Gilbert. He looks like he’s already become the football version of Chuck Knoblauch. Steve Sax is starting to worry that Manning might have the fucking yips.

I’m not “worried” about it, personally. I’m sure of it. That dude couldn’t be more mentally weak between the lines on a football field if he was carrying a stuffed animal out there with him and sucking on his pacifier. 

Texas likely finishes ahead of OU in the SEC but crazy to think after 3 games Mateer is an absolute no brainer over Manning.  Sark will turn it around in the moneyball era.  

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3 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Texas likely finishes ahead of OU in the SEC but crazy to think after 3 games Mateer is an absolute no brainer over Manning.  Sark will turn it around in the moneyball era.  


Oklahoma is a better football team than Texas right now so I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion. 

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6 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Texas likely finishes ahead of OU in the SEC but crazy to think after 3 games Mateer is an absolute no brainer over Manning.  Sark will turn it around in the moneyball era.  

You sandbagging son of a bitch. I see what you're doing. You're trying to trick us into giving something away. It won't work. 

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Just now, Newy25 said:


Oklahoma is a better football team than Texas right now so I’m not sure how you came to that conclusion. 

I think every SEC opponent is ranked that OU plays.  Also read the OU thread.  There’s serious deep seated issues in the foundation and they poor bruh.  Texas struggles don’t change those facts. Croots ain’t coming anytime soon…

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23 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Texas likely finishes ahead of OU in the SEC but crazy to think after 3 games Mateer is an absolute no brainer over Manning.  Sark will turn it around in the moneyball era.  

No fucking chance that happens as of now. As it stands, Texas will be lucky to win 8 games. 

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9 minutes ago, MuellerHorn said:

No fucking chance that happens as of now. As it stands, Texas will be lucky to win 8 games. 

what's so frustrating is that it doesn't fucking need to be. we have a veteran qb on the roster to can complete 5-15 yard passes to wide open receivers and seems to be not a statue. 

let him play conservative and allow the defense to win games 

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1 minute ago, FORTY NINE TO ZERO said:

 

what's so frustrating is that it doesn't fucking need to be. we have a veteran qb on the roster to can complete 5-15 yard passes to wide open receivers and seems to be not a statue. 

let him play conservative and allow the defense to win games 

Agreed. Get Caldwell at least a 50/50 share of reps against SHSU, see how the two do, and go from there. 

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Reposting cause this belong here:

We are completely fucked. Our offense despite having multiple NFL draft picks at every position every year is vastly under delivering. Now we have a new QB that everyone is blaming for our issues like we did last year, ya know the one that was drafted by the NFL. That or the RBs or the OL, or the WRs. Hint, when these issues keep occurring on the offense with players who are fucking drafted from the 1st to 7th it ain't the fucking players. This offense is fucked and to make matters worse another 5* QB is now being blamed for ongoing issues all while Texas has been fielding the some of the top defenses in the nation. 

We need a new offensive staff top to bottom and Sark has to completely step away from it or we are basically coached by a worse version of Franklin and I don't want to be Pedo State.

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So I was fully on board and gave Sark the benefit of doubt after issues last year and the first two games of this year…. Because frankly, he had earned the benefit of doubt with where he has taken our program.

 

With that said, I’ve done a 180.  I’ve watched every Longhorn game for 20+ years.   Like many of you, I’ve watched what a bad offense is.  This is a very bad offense.  One of the worst I’ve seen and we lived through the Gilbert, Swoopes, Heard, Case McCoy era.  We don’t run the ball well, we don’t pass the ball well, we don’t block well, we are penalty prone, we have no creativity on offense, we turn the ball over, we cannot convert 3rd/4th and short, we lack any identity, and we don’t display any confidence when playing.  
 

This is not a quick fix.  I fully expect every game to be a dog fight.  Watching last night’s press conference I think it’s also hitting Sark that he’s going to have to hit the panic button and revamp our offensive philosophy and game plan.  We need to be a poor version of Michigan 2 years ago.  Basically run the ball, bleed clock, take the points in anyway we can,  punt the ball and try to pin teams deep and completely pray that our defense can hold teams 14 or less.  We are definitely the worst offense in the SEC and arguably power 4 teams.  Absolutely embarrassing.  
 

Longterm, it’s year 5 and this is the shit sandwich we are in.  This offense is worse than what was handed to sark when he got here.  He needs an OC and he needs to be the HC and focus on how to better the team rather than trying to put together a game plan between all his other responsibilities.  I’ve also seen enough from Arch to know that dude is mentally weak and that never changes.  You either have “it” or you don’t.  Find him a landing spot at another program and move on after this season.  This roster is too talented for the shit we’re seeing.  I wasn’t expecting us to be as good as last year but I really don’t see how we are going to beat UF, UGA, ou, Arkansas, Aggy.  Hell, I think Vandy waxes us if this is what we display on Saturdays.  Forget playoffs.  Let’s just try to get to 8 wins.  That would be an accomplishment.  With that said. Entire coaching staff outside of defense gets a fucking F for their offseason coaching.  Which unit looks good on offense?  None of them.  These dudes have 2 seasons of success and maybe decided that recruiting 5 stars meant they could coast.  What a waste of an elite defense.

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I'm coming around more and more to the idea that the kid doesn't have that fire upstairs. I wanted to give him time to prove it, especially after his time last year running against A&M and UTSA. He got up from those runs with a fire, and showed me he wanted to compete. But now I see him like Ewers used to be, on the sidelines on the bench hiding from the pressure trying to catch his breath. I've heard nothing from reports that he's the leader of the team, or owns this team. And seen nothing from him that would make me think he's steering anything on this offense. That's most worrisome to me. If it is indeed lacking upstairs, it's over. Can he find a fire? Can he find some gumption?

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33 minutes ago, freyguy said:

Saban had no qualms benching Milroe when he needed it.  Sark should do the same.

But that’s Saban.  A guy who would tear into a ref for a bad call when his team was up 30-0 in the first half in a tune-up game. 
 

A guy who ripped his OC Lane Kiffin a new poop hole for a play call when they were up by four touchdowns late. 
 

A guy who instilled such a culture in his program that when the backups surrendered a garbage time touchdown in a blowout win against a small school, the seniors called a closed-door players only meeting to let the backups know how disappointed they were. 
 

There was only one guy like that.  Sark evidently didn’t pick up enough of that mentality while he was there. 

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1 minute ago, BurdineBandit said:

I'm coming around more and more to the idea that the kid doesn't have that fire upstairs. I wanted to give him time to prove it, especially after his time last year running against A&M and UTSA. He got up from those runs with a fire, and showed me he wanted to compete. But now I see him like Ewers used to be, on the sidelines on the bench hiding from the pressure trying to catch his breath. I've heard nothing from reports that he's the leader of the team, or owns this team. And seen nothing from him that would make me think he's steering anything on this offense. That's most worrisome to me. If it is indeed lacking upstairs, it's over. Can he find a fire? Can he find some gumption?

I could see where NIL and his last name are a detriment to motivation. 

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2 hours ago, Nueces River Rat said:

The title of this thread should be changed to “ I have a ton of concerns going forward.”  

My enthusiasm meter has now dropped to the equivalent of waiting at a dentist office for a root canal.   

The fact Sark can’t see Arch is broken out there is very concerning.   

But did you see that we had success in our punt return game? Arch just needs to settle down and we will be fine. /Sark

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8 hours ago, CastHorn said:

I’m not as seasoned of a CFB spectator as some of you boys, but I’ve got about 15 years of solid ball watching under my belt. I can’t think of one example of a mediocre team improving week to week, so much so that they’re almost a different team by the end of the season. It’s Week 3 and you can damn near count the number of legitimate successful offensive drives on one hand. That’s not going to change overnight. That was a tough watch today, preparing myself mentally for a season of it. 

Generally I agree and I don't think the offense is ever going to be a plus this year. But the QB play has been so bad that if a personnel switch gets you replacement level play there, the offense can at least not be an outright liability. That would materially change the outlook.

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10 hours ago, dcar00 said:

Sark is in trouble since the only way to salvage the season is to "Cam Newton" Arch. Not sure how Arch and his family will take it but my guess would be, not real well.

newton has made $134m in the league

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19 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Reposting cause this belong here:

We are completely fucked. Our offense despite having multiple NFL draft picks at every position every year is vastly under delivering. Now we have a new QB that everyone is blaming for our issues like we did last year, ya know the one that was drafted by the NFL. That or the RBs or the OL, or the WRs. Hint, when these issues keep occurring on the offense with players who are fucking drafted from the 1st to 7th it ain't the fucking players. This offense is fucked and to make matters worse another 5* QB is now being blamed for ongoing issues all while Texas has been fielding the some of the top defenses in the nation. 

We need a new offensive staff top to bottom and Sark has to completely step away from it or we are basically coached by a worse version of Franklin and I don't want to be Pedo State.

That's fine and all but Arch is missing wide open WRs and sidearming balls into his teammate's knees. If the person handling the ball and running the 75% of the offense doesn't have it then he is limiting the entire offense. He was panicked all game long and Sark absolutely should've pulled him but like many stubborn offensive coaches, he wanted Arch to work it out because his defense wasn't going to lose the game. It is telling that Sark is not calling any bubble screens or any screens for that matter. Either that is because the WRs don't block well, the OL doesn't block well, or he thinks Arch cannot make even that routine of a throw without it either going backwards or into the hands of a defender for a pick 6. Wingo isn't great but he's not being used at all like he was with Ewers. So sure it's part Sark but I don't think Sark foresaw Arch would be this bad. If it happens against Sam Houston State then go to Campbell and don't look back. 

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2 minutes ago, mdmost said:

That's fine and all but Arch is missing wide open WRs and sidearming balls into his teammate's knees. If the person handling the ball and running the 75% of the offense doesn't have it then he is limiting the entire offense. He was panicked all game long and Sark absolutely should've pulled him but like many stubborn offensive coaches, he wanted Arch to work it out because his defense wasn't going to lose the game. It is telling that Sark is not calling any bubble screens or any screens for that matter. Either that is because the WRs don't block well, the OL doesn't block well, or he thinks Arch cannot make even that routine of a throw without it either going backwards or into the hands of a defender for a pick 6. Wingo isn't great but he's not being used at all like he was with Ewers. So sure it's part Sark but I don't think Sark foresaw Arch would be this bad. If it happens against Sam Houston State then go to Campbell and don't look back. 

We threw a bubble screen. Arch damn near threw it as a lateral behind the receiver and we are lucky the receiver caught it and was tackled for a loss.  It would have been a close call as to whether it was a live ball if he didn't grab it. 

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5 minutes ago, mdmost said:

That's fine and all but Arch is missing wide open WRs and sidearming balls into his teammate's knees. If the person handling the ball and running the 75% of the offense doesn't have it then he is limiting the entire offense. He was panicked all game long and Sark absolutely should've pulled him but like many stubborn offensive coaches, he wanted Arch to work it out because his defense wasn't going to lose the game. It is telling that Sark is not calling any bubble screens or any screens for that matter. Either that is because the WRs don't block well, the OL doesn't block well, or he thinks Arch cannot make even that routine of a throw without it either going backwards or into the hands of a defender for a pick 6. Wingo isn't great but he's not being used at all like he was with Ewers. So sure it's part Sark but I don't think Sark foresaw Arch would be this bad. If it happens against Sam Houston State then go to Campbell and don't look back. 

Remember all the arguments in the Quinn thread?

Only 1 of 3 possibilities exist.

1) Arch is and always has been shit and nobody in all of his professional level personal training in HS and college, family of NFL QBs or 2 full fucking years at Texas under Sark caught that reality. So for 2 fucking years and 2 games played Sark didn't see the issues and make plans/moves in the portal or otherwise for a good alternative.

2) Arch was great but was absolutely hampered upon arrival at Texas by the coaching staff. We saw a 5 star and NFL drafted QB slowly lose his self confidence, execution and leadership under this staff. It might well be that the time he spent at OSU made him as good as he was since the performance curve dropped the longer he was here. Also, it may be that the offensive game plan didn't fit his abilities well and Sark was stuffing a square peg in a round hole. All of these could absolutely be true for Arch and there is a very clear example of it occurring here already.

3) Arch is hurt and the staff is keeping it under wraps as the alternative options are even worse. Remember this exact same argument in the Ewers thread? Well, it turns out to be true. 

Those are the 3 options, and there are no others. Ever single fucking one of them points to shitty head and offensive coaching work. All of them.  

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18 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

We threw a bubble screen. Arch damn near threw it as a lateral behind the receiver and we are lucky the receiver caught it and was tackled for a loss.  It would have been a close call as to whether it was a live ball if he didn't grab it. 

* backward pass

You won't find the word "lateral" anywhere in the NCAA Rule Book. But, yes, a backward pass is a live ball.

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10 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Remember all the arguments in the Quinn thread?

Only 1 of 3 possibilities exist.

1) Arch is and always has been shit and nobody in all of his professional level personal training in HS and college, family of NFL QBs or 2 full fucking years at Texas under Sark caught that reality. So for 2 fucking years and 2 games played Sark didn't see the issues and make plans/moves in the portal or otherwise for a good alternative.

2) Arch was great but was absolutely hampered upon arrival at Texas by the coaching staff. We saw a 5 star and NFL drafted QB slowly lose his self confidence, execution and leadership under this staff. It might well be that the time he spent at OSU made him as good as he was since the performance curve dropped the longer he was here. Also, it may be that the offensive game plan didn't fit his abilities well and Sark was stuffing a square peg in a round hole. All of these could absolutely be true for Arch and there is a very clear example of it occurring here already.

3) Arch is hurt and the staff is keeping it under wraps as the alternative options are even worse. Remember this exact same argument in the Ewers thread? Well, it turns out to be true. 

Those are the 3 options, and there are no others. Ever single fucking one of them points to shitty head and offensive coaching work. All of them.  

Two is most definitely true. I think the jury is sadly still out on your first point bc of his play yesterday in particular. We don’t know what happened in fucking practice this past week and I sure wish those making statements about it would add some more clarity to what happened. Sark’s defensiveness about an “injury” to Arch makes people think Three still is in play. Does it happen that everyone is wrong about a particular player? Yeah. But I truly from the bottom of my heart do not believe that people are wrong about arch. I look at what happened to Ewers and how he was broken down and he wasn’t truly built back up and that is in sark. So I think your second point is the answer at least since we now have five years to look at and I’ll be damned if his stints at USC and Washington aren’t omens for where we are now. My two cents, good post above. 

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14 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Remember all the arguments in the Quinn thread?

Only 1 of 3 possibilities exist.

1) Arch is and always has been shit and nobody in all of his professional level personal training in HS and college, family of NFL QBs or 2 full fucking years at Texas under Sark caught that reality. So for 2 fucking years and 2 games played Sark didn't see the issues and make plans/moves in the portal or otherwise for a good alternative.

2) Arch was great but was absolutely hampered upon arrival at Texas by the coaching staff. We saw a 5 star and NFL drafted QB slowly lose his self confidence, execution and leadership under this staff. It might well be that the time he spent at OSU made him as good as he was since the performance curve dropped the longer he was here. Also, it may be that the offensive game plan didn't fit his abilities well and Sark was stuffing a square peg in a round hole. All of these could absolutely be true for Arch and there is a very clear example of it occurring here already.

3) Arch is hurt and the staff is keeping it under wraps as the alternative options are even worse. Remember this exact same argument in the Ewers thread? Well, it turns out to be true. 

Those are the 3 options, and there are no others. Ever single fucking one of them points to shitty head and offensive coaching work. All of them.  

There's a 4th possibility. He's an excellent practice QB who fold under pressure when it's a live ballgame and he can get hit. We've seen that plenty of times at Texas too. Everyone built Arch up to be this mythic figure because of his last name. Surely, he's going to be great, he's a by God Manning. Explain MSU and Louisiana Monroe last year. It makes no sense why he is this bad now. Maybe it is a bit of 3 that like Quinn who got hurt and that played into his issues which he still has at Miami, Arch got hurt against Ohio State and that's caused what we're seeing now. But the missing wide open passes and throwing way outside to his WRs and TEs isn't on Sark other than he needs to pull him. That's on Arch and whatever is going wrong inside his head or body right now. I don't think it's 1 at all and I've seen nothing to show me 2 is the reason either. And I mostly stayed out of the Quinn thread because you're all a bunch of shit throwing monkeys.

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6 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Two is most definitely true. I think the jury is sadly still out on your first point bc of his play yesterday in particular. We don’t know what happened in fucking practice this past week and I sure wish those making statements about it would add some more clarity to what happened. Sark’s defensiveness about an “injury” to Arch makes people think Three still is in play. Does it happen that everyone is wrong about a particular player? Yeah. But I truly from the bottom of my heart do not believe that people are wrong about arch. I look at what happened to Ewers and how he was broken down and he wasn’t truly built back up and that is in sark. So I think your second point is the answer at least since we now have five years to look at and I’ll be damned if his stints at USC and Washington aren’t omens for where we are now. My two cents, good post above. 

You make a good point in that 2 and 3 are not necessarily mutually exclusive. 

I lean heavily that way because Arch never looked this bad last year. 

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3 minutes ago, mdmost said:

There's a 4th possibility. He's an excellent practice QB who fold under pressure when it's a live ballgame and he can get hit. We've seen that plenty of times at Texas too. Everyone built Arch up to be this mythic figure because of his last name. Surely, he's going to be great, he's a by God Manning. Explain MSU and Louisiana Monroe last year. It makes no sense why he is this bad now. Maybe it is a bit of 3 that like Quinn who got hurt and that played into his issues which he still has at Miami, Arch got hurt against Ohio State and that's caused what we're seeing now. But the missing wide open passes and throwing way outside to his WRs and TEs isn't on Sark other than he needs to pull him. That's on Arch and whatever is going wrong inside his head or body right now. I don't think it's 1 at all and I've seen nothing to show me 2 is the reason either. And I mostly stayed out of the Quinn thread because you're all a bunch of shit throwing monkeys.

If Sark just missed it for #1 and after 2 fucking years, 2 fucking games, a life in college football as an OC, and having played QB himself Sark missed that Arch is just a practice QB??? Sark is a fucking moron. 

I think it's a combination of 2 and 3. I don't think Arch sucks, but I do think if this shit continues he's going to Portal and we're gonna end up looking like aggie regarding QBs.

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

That is #1 and if after 2 fucking years, 2 fucking games, a life in college football as an OC, and having played QB himself Sark missed this??? Sark is a fucking moron. 

It's not #1. We saw him play really well against similar shitty opponents last year in both the Mississippi State and Louisiana Monroe games. So what caused the drop off from then to now? It's not just Sark. If Sark keeps going to him and Arch plays like this then yes I'll join you on your crusade that Sark is a moron. 

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

It's not #1. We saw him play really well against similar shitty opponents last year in both the Mississippi State and Louisiana Monroe games. So what caused the drop off from then to now? It's not just Sark. If Sark keeps going to him and Arch plays like this then yes I'll join you on your crusade that Sark is a moron. 

We agree it's not number 1. I modified my take above you quote but 2 and 3 combined are clearly head and offensive coaching issues that we saw happen under Ewers too.

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We have a championship caliber defense. Special teams are definitely improved. Offense is completely lost. I agree with the take that you can’t let this entire team suffer because the pre-anointed QB is lost. Who cares why!! I’ve NEVER been a “back-up QB” guy. But this is about the entire team-or it should be - and not just one player. You can see the entire offense’s body language is deflated and defeated. No excitement. No juice. For obvious reasons. You gotta make a change. Now. Not for the FL game - that’s too late and again, unfair to the rest of the team. We should be in “whatever it takes to win” mode. Sucks for Sark because WR are open. But that’s why he gets paid millions of dollars- make the tough call. But again, with that defense, all we need is a game manager at QB. You can’t tell me one of the backups can’t at least manage the game better. If not, the season is lost anyway.

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, mdmost said:

It's not #1. We saw him play really well against similar shitty opponents last year in both the Mississippi State and Louisiana Monroe games. So what caused the drop off from then to now? It's not just Sark. If Sark keeps going to him and Arch plays like this then yes I'll join you on your crusade that Sark is a moron. 

The games last year could be explained by having better offensive personnel around him.

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