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Posted
6 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

At this point, if it ends up being a right winger they'll never find him. 

If it ends up being a right winger they’ll just lie and say it was  a trans Antifa Mexican.  And the media will quote Kash Patel.  And no one will fact check.  And a majority of the country will just believe whatever Kash Patel or turnip said regardless of whether it had any semblance of reality.

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

I read this:

"the constant bed wetting over mass shootings becoming more common can stop."

The type of mass shooting where a single gunman with no other criminal objective shoots and injures/kills multiple civilians has become more common.

Do you deny this?

Dissembling is all he does.

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Just now, hobbes2702 said:

So instead of just saying “gun violence is a problem” which was clearly proven today, you choose to argue about gun violence stats. You’re a really serious person

No, I responded to a person asking a question.  
 

try reading the thread 

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1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

That is just nuts. Does anybody actually count organized crime conflicts as mass shootings? What a dishonest way to hijack a discussion.

 

Were you not familiar with his style before today? Guys like him and Ben Shapiro were/are not honest or good faith debaters. They exist to get people riled up and own the libs. We have one on surly that does the exact same shit to CR posters every fucking day. The world (and this website) would be a lot better off if people could find the fortitude to ignore these jerks. But here we are, addicted to being online and the dopamine hits that come with that. I’m not happy about the world my girls are stepping into.  My childhood was a breeze compared to this, and I was a great big fat person back then. 

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4 hours ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

I don’t. Fuck the left. They are pieces of shit and we’ll never agree on anything. We need 2 nations.

Someone you liked got murdered, most likely because of his political and social viewpoints and opinions.  That's horrible.  It should not happen.  But stop painting with such a broad brush, dumbass.  Not everyone on the left side of the political spectrum is celebrating this horrific incident; on the contrary, I think the vast majority are either indifferent or horrified by it.  And if anyone is celebrating it, they're twisted. 

Maybe wait 24 hours and calm down before posting again.  It will reduce the chances that you'll post more nonsense.      

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3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

We can’t possibly know.  That’s your position, right?

No you keep changing your position when people call you out.

Using the definition that I provided, which excludes gang violence and similar criminal activity to focus on public, single shooter, multiple victim incidents.  Are these more frequent in the last 10, 20, or 50 years?

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31 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

Guys guys guys, a man is dead. Let’s honor his memory by setting aside petty grievances and not getting tangled up in asinine bad faith arguments over how much we can assign the blame for gun violence on black people.

Black people, we’re talking Utah. 

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1 minute ago, Carl Spackler said:

Someone you liked got murdered, most likely because of his political and social viewpoints and opinions.  That's horrible.  It should not happen.  But stop painting with such a broad brush, dumbass.  Not everyone on the left side of the political spectrum is celebrating this horrific incident; on the contrary, I think the vast majority are either indifferent or horrified by it.  And if anyone is celebrating it, they're twisted. 

Maybe wait 24 hours and calm down before posting again.  It will reduce the chances that you'll post more nonsense.      

The president of the United States is celebrating it.

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im in the caribbean all week. my phone starts blowing up today on the beach. goddammit america can't leave you alone for a week. i can only imagine how this thread is going...

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Just now, Carl Spackler said:

Someone you liked got murdered, most likely because of his political and social viewpoints and opinions.  That's horrible.  It should not happen.  But stop painting with such a broad brush, dumbass.  Not everyone on the left side of the political spectrum is celebrating this horrific incident; on the contrary, I think the vast majority are either indifferent or horrified by it.  And if anyone is celebrating it, they're twisted. 

Maybe wait 24 hours and calm down before posting again.  It will reduce the chances that you'll post more nonsense.      

He's got some health issues, IIRC, that aren't being helped by the Big Beautiful Buttfucking and is a very angry person, generally.

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

No you keep changing your position when people call you out.

Using the definition that I provided, which excludes gang violence and similar criminal activity to focus on public, single shooter, multiple victim incidents.  Are these more frequent in the last 10, 20, or 50 years?

I’ll gladly consider any statistics you deem appropriate.  Although it’s contradictory to your claim statistics aren’t kept…

 Please provide them.

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2 hours ago, Satchel said:

How much better off would we be if we didn’t have a POTUS who foments violence and encourages hatred. He offered to pay the court costs for those who would violently attack his perceived enemies. Trump is hateful and dangerous because he give his people to be their very worst selves. And they are meeting the moment.

…he gives his people permission to be their worst selves 

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1 minute ago, Snake Diggity said:

A lot of people complaining about how hot it is when they chose the guy setting the thermostat.

This ain’t that hard 

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Just now, hobbes2702 said:

“Christians are under attack”. A sitting senator on CNN just now 

Good lord they are FEASTING on Kirk's corpse already 

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Any Project 2025 scholars here?  Wouldn’t surprise me if somewhere in those 700 pages is a “operative assassinate right wing political commentator as excuse to do xyz awful thing” plan

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6 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

He's got some health issues, IIRC, that aren't being helped by the Big Beautiful Buttfucking and is a very angry person, generally.

That's unfortunate about the health issues.

The anger definitely shows.

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1 hour ago, Chopper said:

Sounds like Utah cops arrested a second guy but then found out the gun he had was a pellet gun and were forced to release him.

What has to go through your mind to go down this road.  "Hey, a prominent podcaster just got whacked down the road.  There's an all hands on deck manhunt looking for the assassin.  Yeah, I ought to grab my pellet gun and roam on down the street.  It's MY FREEDOM!!!"

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Posted
Just now, hobbes2702 said:

lol wut? 

Maybe you and I have different definitions of "celebrating."

If you're saying that Dotard will attempt to politically capitalize on it, then I agree.

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Just now, Carl Spackler said:

Maybe you and I have different definitions of "celebrating."

If you're saying that Dotard will attempt to politically capitalize on it, then I agree.

He already has. Did you not read what he said? The mother fucker is jumping for joy. He has no clue who did this yet he’s already found a way to use this for his own personal political rhetoric and to turn the heat up even more.  Celebrating is putting it lightly 

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Posted
6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Your nation gon' be poor.

It's fucking stupid anyway if you think about it for 10 seconds. You can't have a country based on thoughts. People change their thoughts.

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11 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

I’ll gladly consider any statistics you deem appropriate.  Although it’s contradictory to your claim statistics aren’t kept…

 Please provide them.

No, what I said was, there's no consensus on what constitutes a "mass shooting" or even use of that term among reporters.  Some include gang violence, some don't, some require 4+ victims, some only 3+.

That site I linked uses the definition I mentioned, and this governmental report synthesizes that data as follows:

The research examined an era of marked increase in the number and deadly effect of mass shootings in the United States. To summarize that trend:

The project spanned mass shootings over more than 50 years, yet 20% of the 167 mass shootings in that period occurred in the last five years of the study period.

More than half occurred after 2000, of which 33% occurred after 2010.

The years with the highest number of mass shootings were 2018, with nine, and 1999 and 2017, each with seven.

Sixteen of the 20 deadliest mass shootings in modern history (i.e., from 1966 through 2019), occurred between 1999 and 2019, and eight of those sixteen occurred between 2014 and 2019.

The death toll has risen sharply, particularly in the last decade. In the 1970s, mass shootings claimed an average of eight lives per year. From 2010 to 2019, the end of the study period, the average was up to 51 deaths per year.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Celery Man said:

If they catch the shooter at a fast food restaurant I hope it’s some weird regional thing like a Taco John or Runza. Maybe Perkins.

Tiger Woods was the shooter?

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17 minutes ago, lemonlime said:

If it ends up being a right winger they’ll just lie and say it was  a trans Antifa Mexican.  And the media will quote Kash Patel.  And no one will fact check.  And a majority of the country will just believe whatever Kash Patel or turnip said regardless of whether it had any semblance of reality.

If it was a right winger, they'll just say they were inverted, thereby making the right wing the left wing.

/smoke bomb

 

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

No, what I said was, there's no consensus on what constitutes a "mass shooting" or even use of that term among reporters.  Some include gang violence, some don't, some require 4+ victims, some only 3+.

That site I linked uses the definition I mentioned, and this governmental report synthesizes that data as follows:

The research examined an era of marked increase in the number and deadly effect of mass shootings in the United States. To summarize that trend:

The project spanned mass shootings over more than 50 years, yet 20% of the 167 mass shootings in that period occurred in the last five years of the study period.

More than half occurred after 2000, of which 33% occurred after 2010.

The years with the highest number of mass shootings were 2018, with nine, and 1999 and 2017, each with seven.

Sixteen of the 20 deadliest mass shootings in modern history (i.e., from 1966 through 2019), occurred between 1999 and 2019, and eight of those sixteen occurred between 2014 and 2019.

The death toll has risen sharply, particularly in the last decade. In the 1970s, mass shootings claimed an average of eight lives per year. From 2010 to 2019, the end of the study period, the average was up to 51 deaths per year.

 

He’s not a serious person. 

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Posted (edited)
32 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Is gun violence a problem in this country? Why does it matter if it’s gangs or not? 

It doesn't.  It would be nice if we solved the gun problem to such a point that there was no look over there, "BUT the gangs",  Instead many won't admit it is a much larger problem and just whatabout this and whatabout that to keep any real progress from being made.

It should actually be some of these people's wet dreams for it to really ONLY be the gangs....considering who generally is in gangs.  

The hard core pipe hitting truth is that both Charlie Kirk and Melissa Hortman were victims of America as we know it.

Take it away Donald....

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5 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

“Christians are under attack”. A sitting senator on CNN just now 

I didn't see it because I don't waste my time watching CNN but my money is on Ted Cruz or Joni Ernst.   

 

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Just now, hobbes2702 said:

He already has. Did you not read what he said? The mother fucker is jumping for joy

Nope.  Hadn't read it.  Only thing I'd seen was a summary of a video message he had published in which he professed to be grief-stricken and outraged.  Got a link to whatever you're referring to?

Like I wrote earlier, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Dear Orange Leader attempts to make political capital out of this.  That's the kind of morally bankrupt scumbag he is.   

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Maybe we should find out who this killer is and why they did it before we start plotting to take bloody revenge on our friends and neighbors.

The problem is that won’t matter who did it or why they did it. It will be portrayed by the voices on the right to be a crazy liberal. They are already saying that liberals are “at war” with conservatives. But yet that narrative is completely OK.
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1 minute ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:


The problem is that won’t matter who did it or why they did it. It will be portrayed by the voices on the right to be a crazy liberal. They are already saying that liberals are “at war” with conservatives. But yet that narrative is completely OK.

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3 minutes ago, Macanudo said:

I didn't see it because I don't waste my time watching CNN but my money is on Ted Cruz or Joni Ernst.   

 

It was Okie MWM. The OK base will eat that up. 

 

Charlie Kirk strongly identified as a Christian. He was not killed for it. He was killed because he engaged people in the public square, put his shit out there and gave others equal opportunity to put their shit out there. Our political climate doesn't like that sort of thing. 

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2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

It was Okie MWM. The OK base will eat that up. 

 

Charlie Kirk strongly identified as a Christian. He was not killed for it. He was killed because he engaged people in the public square, put his shit out there and gave others equal opportunity to put their shit out there. Our political climate doesn't like that sort of thing. 

I don’t know about that. He drove rage bait to enrich himself on tik tock. 

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24 minutes ago, mchookem said:

im in the caribbean all week. my phone starts blowing up today on the beach. goddammit america can't leave you alone for a week. i can only imagine how this thread is going...

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DM me your venmo and I'll buy you a drink to toast to "American Greatness".

I wish I was on vacation right now. 

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1 minute ago, OU Sucks said:

I opened up Facebook to have this thread pushed into my feed. Comments read like Texags:

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Thanks for blessing us with your facebook feed. 

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19 minutes ago, Homercles said:

Any Project 2025 scholars here?  Wouldn’t surprise me if somewhere in those 700 pages is a “operative assassinate right wing political commentator as excuse to do xyz awful thing” plan

Charlie Kirk murder as the trumpist flavor of a Reichstag fire would be too fucking dumb. Even for this timeline

Spoiler

I hope

 



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