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1 hour ago, chainsaw said:

Do you think we'll at least get to see Arch lead the Horns to back to back undefeated seasons and national titles from the concentration camps?

Nobody is set up to win National Titles in the Stephen Miller Era like BYU. They're going to feast.

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Posted
40 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Pretty good explainer on NPR a little while ago. Basically

these nationwide injunctions in general are a big problem for both sides (!!) 

this was the dumbest case to pick to rule on them because it most likely is a slam dunk to certify as a class action (and should happen soon)

all signs point to Trump losing when birthright citizenship ruling on merits comes (arguments begin in October)

very possible someone born with birthright citizenship gets deported if they are in a state not currently suing the administration and proceedings happen before SCOTUS issue ruling on the actual EO (but apparently something in this ruling put in by ACB makes that much less likely)

experts were Painter (ethics lawyer for W’s WH and some retired lady federal judge whose name I didn’t catch 

I think the only nit I would pick with this summary is that if the current case gets amended to assert a class action the district court in fairly short order could certify a class or perhaps issue a new injunction based on a proposed class (not sure if court has power to enjoin for entire prospective class prior to certification) to prevent anyone from being deported under EO before current injunction expires (which I thought I heard wouldn't be for another 30 days).

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56 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Pretty good explainer on NPR a little while ago. Basically

these nationwide injunctions in general are a big problem for both sides (!!) 

this was the dumbest case to pick to rule on them because it most likely is a slam dunk to certify as a class action (and should happen soon)

all signs point to Trump losing when birthright citizenship ruling on merits comes (arguments begin in October)

very possible someone born with birthright citizenship gets deported if they are in a state not currently suing the administration and proceedings happen before SCOTUS issue ruling on the actual EO (but apparently something in this ruling put in by ACB makes that much less likely)

experts were Painter (ethics lawyer for W’s WH and some retired lady federal judge whose name I didn’t catch 

You’re so cute.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

FWIW, I listened to portions of the birthright citizenship case and when they were not discussing injunctions, at least 6, and possibly 7 judges were extremely skeptical of the government’s position. 

Yeah but Barrett loves to sound sane in oral arguments then rule with Alito.

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Posted
1 minute ago, tokamak said:

So we're definitely heading toward stripping US citizens of their citizenship, right?

Yup. This where it goes past just the “more tan” Americans. Fucking disgusting but not surprising this court is opening every Pandora’s box imaginable 

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That cunt Biondi is arguing that “times have changed” and that the framers didn’t intend for birthright citizenship to apply in the way it is being “abused” today.  OK, then let’s apply the same argument to the 2nd amendment.  

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2 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

That cunt Biondi is arguing that “times have changed” and that the framers didn’t intend for birthright citizenship to apply in the way it is being “abused” today.  OK, then let’s apply the same argument to the 2nd amendment.  

I'm honestly waiting for them to tell us the constitution isn't real and everything is made up and the points don't matter

Posted
2 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

That cunt Biondi is arguing that “times have changed” and that the framers didn’t intend for birthright citizenship to apply in the way it is being “abused” today.  OK, then let’s apply the same argument to the 2nd amendment.  

Point of order, birthright citizenship arose under the 14th Amendment in about 1870, not the 1789 timeframe of the original Constitution and Bill of Rights.

 

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Posted
1 hour ago, SimonBolivar said:

Nobody is set up to win National Titles in the Stephen Miller Era like BYU. They're going to feast.

Without Samoan converts BYU is gonna drop down to 6-Man

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Posted
4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Point of order, birthright citizenship arose under the 14th Amendment in about 1870, not the 1789 timeframe of the original Constitution and Bill of Rights.

 

More specifically there was debate in the senate about it including immigrants and yes they clearly said as it was being written that it did include immigrants like point blank.

If SCOTUS modifies it in any way it is quite literally a coup.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Point of order, birthright citizenship arose under the 14th Amendment in about 1870, not the 1789 timeframe of the original Constitution and Bill of Rights.

 

Do you think she knows that? 

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Posted (edited)

So the President gets to move with speed and throw all kinds of shit at everybody but the slow as fuck wheels of justice are tapping their brakes?  Do I have this right?  

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6 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

So the President gets to move with speed and throw all kinds of shit at everybody but the slow as fuck wheels of justice are tapping their brakes?  Do I have this right?  

We had four years, and couldn't even get to a trial in all the 1/6, election fraud stuff. Four years. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Point of order, birthright citizenship arose under the 14th Amendment in about 1870, not the 1789 timeframe of the original Constitution and Bill of Rights.

 

Was that before or after the Declaration of Independence?  You know, that beautiful document that ended the Civil War?

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Posted (edited)
35 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Was that before or after the Declaration of Independence?  You know, that beautiful document that ended the Civil War?

As funny and evident as this should be, it's a joke that only plays to woke libtards.  Facts, science, history and knowledge are libtard ideals.  Sanity doesn't matter either if the goal is to empower crazy people with personal vendettas to powerful positions.  

The goal isn't maintenance or better performance, and the Fox propaganda machine only serves to dehumanize and authorize crimes against humanity.  The wheels are cranking.  When people start fighting back is when the boot comes down and the last lever is pulled for an authoritarian.  

Think about how the law is enabling a lunatic that doesn't understand America's basic founding and freedom documents, for which blood and lives were shed.  And people voted for this.  

The final stage of freedom appears to be the ability to not give a shit and willfully turn the reigns over to an oppressor, that forefathers fought to escape and conquer.  When people refuse to care or can't be bothered, then ignorance becomes untenable and much more expensive.  And this makes me laugh--we're relying on the 2nd amendment to be wielded by apathetic dipshits that allowed it, voted for it, to happen.  Suddenly, we're going to go from Applebees to troops for freedom as long as there's air-conditioning and a nearby pharmacy for our prescription diabetes meds.  We're fucked proper.  

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Posted
4 hours ago, chainsaw said:

Do you think we'll at least get to see Arch lead the Horns to back to back undefeated seasons and national titles from the concentration camps?

Not if you're in the Bandera camp.

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Posted
3 hours ago, SimonBolivar said:

Nobody is set up to win National Titles in the Stephen Miller Era like BYU. They're going to feast.

The SEC will thrive under Stephen Miller. 

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