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It would make sense that Trump loves wrestling, because wrestling is completely stupid and everything about it is fake, and it is adored by idiots. 

For Trump it must be like looking in a mirror. 

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1 minute ago, Chooky said:

I think you're thinking of Dwight D. Eisenhower.

"You saw what these guns can do on the Beaches of Normandy, now let's see what they do in the Rings of Orlando.  I want McMahon!"  

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2 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

A Trumpkin friend of mine is totally carrying his water over the whole "injecting disinfectant" debacle. It's "the media" blowing it out of proportion. He was just "brainstorming" and anyone who doesn't see the good he's doing is purposely trying to hurt the country.

What a strange, sad hill to die on: trying to justify the idiocy of Donald Trump.

Is it too late to trademark "Liesol"?

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52 minutes ago, TornACL said:

It would make sense that Trump loves wrestling, because wrestling is completely stupid and everything about it is fake, and it is adored by idiots. 

For Trump it must be like looking in a mirror. 

https://www.complex.com/sports/2016/12/donald-trump-thought-vince-mcmahon-died-staged-monday-night-raw-stunt

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58 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Isn't Trump in the pro wrestling Hall of Fame? I can't believe I just typed that but I'm pretty sure I heard that at some point.

Why yes, he is:

https://www.wwe.com/superstars/donald-trump

Donald_Trump_bio.jpg

The President is a WWE Hall of Fame member, Class of 2013.

Suck it libs.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:


Yeah...that’s the Lysol talking.

I told him to cut it with Glass Plus.  Fucking Streakers.  I mean Tweakers.  

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27 minutes ago, TommyGufano said:

I totally forgot about this story. That was like two months after Trump was actually part of Wrestlemania. So it’s not just that he was an idiot who thought that WWE was real, he actually had personal experience to know that it was fake, and yet, just a couple months after that he saw Vince “die” on tv and thought it was real.
 

He quite literally lacks object permanence and thinks anything that’s on his tv is real. Thank god he’s addicted to cable news coverage of himself. If he flipped the channel to a political thriller he probably would’ve nuked China already.

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1 hour ago, TornACL said:

It would make sense that Trump loves wrestling, because wrestling is completely stupid and everything about it is fake, and it is adored by idiots. 

For Trump it must be like looking in a mirror. 

Triple H is the perfect kind of trump "winner". 

Never has to actually compete because he's in a fake sport and get to win whenever he wants because he married the daughter of the fake sport's owner. 

He's wrestling's Kushner. 

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5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I totally forgot about this story. That was like two months after Trump was actually part of Wrestlemania. So it’s not just that he was an idiot who thought that WWE was real, he actually had personal experience to know that it was fake, and yet, just a couple months after that he saw Vince “die” on tv and thought it was real.
 

He quite literally lacks object permanence and thinks anything that’s on his tv is real. Thank god he’s addicted to cable news coverage of himself. If he flipped the channel to a political thriller he probably would’ve nuked China already.

 

If he ever watched any Clancy movie, the world probably would be over with by now.

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3 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

A Trumpkin friend of mine is totally carrying his water over the whole "injecting disinfectant" debacle. It's "the media" blowing it out of proportion. He was just "brainstorming" and anyone who doesn't see the good he's doing is purposely trying to hurt the country.

What a strange, sad hill to die on: trying to justify the idiocy of Donald Trump.

On facebook I'm seeing "taken out of context" written over and over. I don't think the writers have a clue about what that phrase means. 

Trump's damning quotes emerge naturally in him and a video clip from a news conference or on the White House lawn contains the context.

Lifting things out of context is largely a hate-engine tactic. Rush Limbaugh has made 100s of millions doing it. 

Another day in Idiot World. 

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3 hours ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

A Trumpkin friend of mine is totally carrying his water over the whole "injecting disinfectant" debacle. It's "the media" blowing it out of proportion. He was just "brainstorming" and anyone who doesn't see the good he's doing is purposely trying to hurt the country.

What a strange, sad hill to die on: trying to justify the idiocy of Donald Trump.

It's a crowded fucking hill which makes it even sadder.

crowded-people-waiting-first-light-dawn-

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23 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

I totally forgot about this story. That was like two months after Trump was actually part of Wrestlemania. So it’s not just that he was an idiot who thought that WWE was real, he actually had personal experience to know that it was fake, and yet, just a couple months after that he saw Vince “die” on tv and thought it was real.
 

He quite literally lacks object permanence and thinks anything that’s on his tv is real. Thank god he’s addicted to cable news coverage of himself. If he flipped the channel to a political thriller he probably would’ve nuked China already.

Gorilla Channel, imo.

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15 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

On facebook I'm seeing "taken out of context" written over and over. I don't think the writers have a clue about what that phrase means. 

Trump's damning quotes emerge naturally in him and a video clip from a news conference or on the White House lawn contains the context.

Lifting things out of context is largely a hate-engine tactic. Rush Limbaugh has made 100s of millions doing it. 

Another day in Idiot World. 

Speaking of Trump and Rush Limbaugh, back when this piece on why Trump decided against a radio show over his "briefings" was written, I think it was posted on here, but I wonder if Trump will return to rallies, or simply do like Pence and go on Limbaugh's show. His people must have gotten through to him that he is slipping. If he goes with a friendly interviewer, he can have Rush interpret his comments for the listeners.
 

Spoiler

 

Trump Wanted a Radio Show, but He Didn’t Want to Compete With Limbaugh

President Trump said he envisioned a show running two hours a day, according to White House officials, and would do it were it not for the risk of encroaching on Rush Limbaugh, the conservative host.

On a Saturday in early March, Donald J. Trump, clad in a baseball cap, strode into the Situation Room for a meeting with the coronavirus task force. He didn’t stop by the group’s daily meetings often, but he had an idea he was eager to share: He wanted to start a White House talk radio show.

At the time, the virus was rapidly spreading across the country, and Mr. Trump would soon announce a ban on European travel. A talk radio show, Mr. Trump excitedly explained, would allow him to quell Americans’ fears and answer their questions about the pandemic directly, according to three White House officials who heard the pitch. There would be no screening, he said, just an open line for people to call and engage one-on-one with the president.

But that Saturday, almost as suddenly as he proposed it, the president outlined one reason he would not be moving forward with it: He did not want to compete with Rush Limbaugh.

No one in the room was sure how to respond, two of the officials said. Someone suggested hosting the show in the mornings or on weekends, to steer clear of the conservative radio host’s schedule. But Mr. Trump shook his head, saying he envisioned his show as two hours a day, every day. And were it not for Mr. Limbaugh, and the risk of encroaching on his territory, he reiterated, he would do it.

One of the officials involved directly in the effort said it wasn’t the first time Mr. Trump had discussed hosting a radio show from the White House.

But if some in the room that day were unsure whether the president’s proposal was a joke, they knew his deference to Mr. Limbaugh was anything but.

When it comes to the president’s favored media figures, most observers tend to fixate on the Fox News lineup of Laura Ingraham, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity. But several people close to Mr. Trump say that in the midst of a pandemic, he has come to keenly appreciate the extent of Mr. Limbaugh’s reach, and the fact that his show, perhaps more than any other source, offers a real-time metric of how the president’s decisions are playing with his supporters.

Now, as multiple voices vie for the president’s ear on the appropriate timeline for America’s path to normalcy, Mr. Limbaugh is amplifying Mr. Trump’s instinct for swiftness. And for this president, as well as much of his party, Mr. Limbaugh’s affirmation remains a powerful motivator.

“Talk radio is still a powerhouse when it comes to Republican voters,” said Jason Miller, co-host of the War Room podcast and a former Trump communications adviser. And the president, Mr. Miller said, “realizes how big a powerhouse Rush is.”

The White House declined to comment on Mr. Trump’s desire for a radio show. The president ultimately opted for daily televised press briefings instead, which have in effect served as a stand-in for campaign rallies and regularly span two hours.

“The Rush Limbaugh Show” has been the most popular talk-radio show in the country for decades, currently drawing 15.5 million listeners a week. In that time Mr. Limbaugh has traded in the kind of deeply divisive messaging that Mr. Trump regularly brandishes to appeal to his conservative base.

Like the president, Mr. Limbaugh has also dispensed disinformation and falsehoods at a rapid clip. In the last few weeks alone he has repeatedly referred to the coronavirus as the “common cold.” His history of anti-gay remarks was revived as recently as February, when he said Americans would not elect Pete Buttigieg after seeing him “kissing his husband onstage, next to Mr. Man, Donald Trump.” (Mr. Limbaugh later told listeners that Mr. Trump had called him and told him not to apologize for the comments.)

Mr. Limbaugh is among Mr. Trump’s most influential backers, praising him for his politics and leadership well before many other Republicans cast their lot with him. He recently called attacks on the president’s handling of the virus crisis “a political hit job.” The president has returned the favor: In a surprise move during his State of the Union address in February, he awarded Mr. Limbaugh, who had recently revealed he had late-stage lung cancer, the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation’s highest civilian honor. He highlighted Mr. Limbaugh’s charitable work and called him “the greatest fighter and winner that you will ever meet.”

As public health officials urge caution in relaxing stay-at-home restrictions, corporate executives and conservative activists alike are pleading with the president to reopen the economy. Mr. Trump has argued that he alone has the power to override stay-at-home orders imposed at the state level — a claim that legal scholars reject and that he appeared to walk back on Tuesday. Still, many Republican governors are looking directly to the White House to set the tone for a path forward.

As for his own guidance, Mr. Trump’s preferred media sources have tempered their advocacy. After initially dismissing the severity of the virus, many of Mr. Trump’s go-to talkers on Fox News have approached the question with relative delicacy, appearing to take their cues from the president rather than try to proactively urge one path or another.

Mr. Limbaugh, conversely, has been a forceful voice from the get-go. Along with casting medical experts like Dr. Anthony S. Fauci as “Hillary Clinton sympathizers,” he has used his enormous platform to call for a rapid return to normal life.

“Are we just going to sit by and watch $22 trillion — that’s the value, that’s the sum total of the G.D.P., that’s the U.S. economy — are we just going to sit by here and watch it evaporate?” Mr. Limbaugh said in one segment on March 31. “Because that’s what we’re doing, under the guise of not losing any unnecessary life.”

On Monday, Mr. Limbaugh argued that the “shutdown” was “a political effort to get rid of Donald Trump in the election this November” — as well as a Democratic ploy to “keep people fed without them having to go to work” and to “fine them for going to church.”

Mr. Limbaugh, a frequent golf partner of Mr. Trump’s in Palm Beach, Fla., has been candid and proud about his direct line to the president. During his show on Friday, Mr. Limbaugh revealed that the president calls him “once a week just to see how I’m doing” and that sometimes Vice President Mike Pence joins. He added that their conversations were only about his health, not policy. (Attempts to reach Mr. Limbaugh through a colleague for this article were unsuccessful.)

But in this moment, as Mr. Trump grapples with what he has called “the biggest decision I’ve ever had to make,” Mr. Limbaugh has an unparalleled perch.

“A lot of politicians — obviously conservatives — tune into his show as they’re trying to figure out what their point of view should be,” said Matt Schlapp, chairman of the American Conservative Union.

Mr. Schlapp noted that with most decisions, the president uses various media sources as a way to “think through questions.” And while the president is listening to his public health advisers in this moment, Mr. Schlapp said, he’s also adhering to the formulas he knows best.

“The school nurse doesn’t run the school,” Mr. Schlapp said. “The principal runs the school.”

Polling shows that the vast majority of Americans support a national stay-at-home order, but Mr. Limbaugh’s audience — in other words, the president’s base — shares his agitation about jump-starting the economy. His recent shows illustrate the extent to which many of Mr. Trump’s supporters remain suspicious of the public health experts.

“I agree the right person is in office to bring this country out of this,” said a Las Vegas police officer named Marcus who called into Mr. Limbaugh’s show on Monday. “But, you know, when you look at numbers, Rush — the numbers don’t add up as far as, like, you know, the amount of people that die of a normal flu every year and those sort of things. I mean, it’s terrifying how one thing can make us give up our rights so quickly.”

On Friday, a caller from Prescott, Ariz., wondered if experts were urging the shutdown of the economy as a way to model the potential effects of legislation intended to combat climate change. “Isn’t this kind of like a dry run of the Green New Deal?” he asked.

In the midst of everything, Mr. Limbaugh’s listeners unequivocally support the president. On Friday, a New York construction worker named Andy criticized the transformation of Manhattan into a “ghost town,” and said, “There is no better man to be in the White House right now than Donald Trump.”

It is the kind of affirmation that helps illuminate radio’s increasing appeal to Mr. Trump. Television indeed plays an outsize role in the president’s assessment of himself and his administration. But with no campaign rallies to look forward to, people close to the president say he feels stifled in his inability to communicate directly with his supporters, complaining that the news media tries to distort his message at his daily briefings.

The president may have dropped plans for his own talk radio show. But for Mr. Trump, what Mr. Limbaugh offers is perhaps second best: a taste of the validation he craves, as well as a blueprint for how to make his supporters even happier.

“Rush is perfectly confident and competent to play the outsider to the system,” said Kellyanne Conway, the White House counselor. “In that way, he and the president learn from each other.”

New York Times--Elaina Plott, April 15, 2020

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

Speaking of wrestling, Jim Cornette’s political rants are fun. He fucking loathes Trump and would fit in well on Surly.

 

That guy has been out there hustling for a long time.

I remember back in the day, he was ranting at Gorgeous Jimmy Garvin and he told him that his girl Sunshine had been dropped off on more street corners than the Dallss Times Herald.

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8 minutes ago, AbeFroman said:

That guy has been out there hustling for a long time.

I remember back in the day, he was ranting at Gorgeous Jimmy Garvin and he told him that his girl Sunshine had been dropped off on more street corners than the Dallss Times Herald.

The Herald?  Holy shit, that musta been waay back in the day.

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5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

You have to admit, the Trumpkins' collective shift from "he didn't suggest we look into disinfectant injections" to "he was just being sarcastic" is impressive.  No shame, no incentive to reflect, nada.  

If by "impressive" you mean "makes me want to strangle them with piano wire", then yes.

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1 hour ago, Wanker Bob said:

Triple H is the perfect kind of trump "winner". 

Never has to actually compete because he's in a fake sport and get to win whenever he wants because he married the daughter of the fake sport's owner. 

He's wrestling's Kushner. 

Yeah, 90% of that is BS. WWE would be much better off with Helmsley running things.

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19 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Since wrestling talk isn’t going away, I’ll admit I’ve been viewing 3x a week since sports were cancelled and watched both nights of wrestlemania.

The other night I watched the Montreal Screwjob episode of Dark Side of the Ring. That led me down a rabbit hole of Jim Cornette promos. I think he’s the second best ever on the mic behind the Rock. 

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3 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

The other night I watched the Montreal Screwjob episode of Dark Side of the Ring. That led me down a rabbit hole of Jim Cornette promos. I think he’s the second best ever on the mic behind the Rock. 

Cornette was amazing.  But you have to include Flair in that conversation.    

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1 hour ago, AbeFroman said:

That guy has been out there hustling for a long time.

I remember back in the day, he was ranting at Gorgeous Jimmy Garvin and he told him that his girl Sunshine had been dropped off on more street corners than the Dallss Times Herald.

found it.

 

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3 minutes ago, Jive Turkey said:

The other night I watched the Montreal Screwjob episode of Dark Side of the Ring. That led me down a rabbit hole of Jim Cornette promos. I think he’s the second best ever on the mic behind the Rock. 

Cornette was amazing.  But you have to include Flair in that conversation.    

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49 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

You're next, Junior. If your daddy couldn't protect Epatein in federal prison, there's no way he's going to be able to protect you. Go ahead, have the bouillabaisse. 

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31 minutes ago, pacman said:

I really feel Trump firing, and then claiming to not know, the individual responsibile for leading the vaccine efforts did not get enough press.

That guy is reportedly filing a whistleblower complaint so just wait until Trump fires the Inspector General involved or otherwise tries to obstruct the investigation. 

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2 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

That guy is reportedly filing a whistleblower complaint so just wait until Trump fires the Inspector General involved or otherwise tries to obstruct the investigation. 

did anyone catch how confused trump was about the whistleblower because it was out in the open? he doesn’t know that whistleblowers are protected, but not necessarily anonymous.

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