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At the end of the day, as soon as the debates happen and Desantis stands next to Trump who is 6'2 (give or take) he is going to get crushed.  

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10 minutes ago, Nivek said:

At the end of the day, as soon as the debates happen and Desantis stands next to Trump who is 6'2 (give or take) he is going to get crushed.  

And when Trump turns on his firehose of bullshit and starts shouting and interrupting and talking over him, DeSantis won’t have a response. His whole shtick is based on emulating Trump and that’s not going to work when he gets in the ring with Trump. He can’t out-Trump Trump. 

On 3/3/2023 at 7:26 PM, fattyflattie said:

I didn’t know that. Thanks for bumming me out on a Friday. 

Being bummed out at voting rights is very on brand

42 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Being bummed out at voting rights is very on brand

Funny.  But I’ll stand by my thoughts that rapists, murderers, and child molesters shouldn’t have a say in the direction of our country, no matter how “reformed” they are when they are released back into polite society.  

21 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Funny.  But I’ll stand by my thoughts that rapists, murderers, and child molesters shouldn’t have a say in the direction of our country, no matter how “reformed” they are when they are released back into polite society.  

What about drug users? Felony DUI? Theft? 

Do you have any idea the breadth of conduct covered by felony laws?

What about them? Sounds like people who couldn’t make it in a lawful society.  Hundreds of millions in the country aren’t felons. It’s not difficult.    

I know you make your living on them, certainly no bias there. 

3 hours ago, Nivek said:

At the end of the day, as soon as the debates happen and Desantis stands next to Trump who is 6'2 (give or take) he is going to get crushed.  


desantis isn’t a good debater 

12 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

What about them? Sounds like people who couldn’t make it in a lawful society.  Hundreds of millions in the country aren’t felons. It’s not difficult.    

I know you make your living on them, certainly no bias there. 

So why don’t we just put them in jail until they die?

53 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Funny.  But I’ll stand by my thoughts that rapists, murderers, and child molesters shouldn’t have a say in the direction of our country, no matter how “reformed” they are when they are released back into polite society.  

Every felon isn't a rapist, murder or child molester, dumbass.

2 minutes ago, Burt said:

Every felon isn't a rapist, murder or child molester, dumbass.

Correct, but every convicted murderer, rapist, or child molester is.    I get it, it a huge boon for your team.  

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5 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Correct, but every convicted murderer, rapist, or child molester is.    I get it, it a huge boon for your team.  

Every neo-Nazi and white supremacist caucuses with conservatives. Must mean all conservatives are either a neo-Nazi and/or white supremacist.  Huge boon for you team.

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You know, guys, I think fatty may be on to something here. Only truly responsible society members should be entitled to a full vote count. For example, maybe just the ones who own land. Then, we can divvy up everyone else into certain fractional-values based on their crimes, wealth, and social status. Perhaps a scale of 1/5 to 4/5. Why has no one tried something like this before??

38 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:


desantis isn’t a good debater 

Trump is awful at it as well.  But trump has charisma.  

Just now, Nivek said:

Trump is awful at it as well.  But trump has charisma.  

Trump will attack and attack some more. Desantis will have a deer in the headlights look 

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

You know, guys, I think fatty may be on to something here. Only truly responsible society members should be entitled to a full vote count. For example, maybe just the ones who own land. Then, we can divvy up everyone else into certain fractional-values based on their crimes, wealth, and social status. Perhaps a scale of 1/5 to 4/5. Why has no one tried something like this before??

Sounds like some kind of compromise to me.

25 minutes ago, Burt said:

Sounds like some kind of compromise to me.

Missouri's already taken.

43 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Trump is awful at it as well.  But trump has charisma.  

Yeah, in the same way that Jabba the Hutt has charisma. 

1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

You know, guys, I think fatty may be on to something here. Only truly responsible society members should be entitled to a full vote count. For example, maybe just the ones who own land. Then, we can divvy up everyone else into certain fractional-values based on their crimes, wealth, and social status. Perhaps a scale of 1/5 to 4/5. Why has no one tried something like this before??

I mean, if we're going to be elitist, shouldn't we be really elitist?  Shouldn't only college educated people be allowed to vote?  And maybe you get a double vote if say, you went to the alma mater of your state?  Maybe if you have a JD you get an extra one on top of that?  It's a modest proposal, for sure.

1 hour ago, tx 3 putt said:

Trump will attack and attack some more. Desantis will have a deer in the headlights look 

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2 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

What about them? Sounds like people who couldn’t make it in a lawful society.  Hundreds of millions in the country aren’t felons. It’s not difficult.    

I know you make your living on them, certainly no bias there. 

Do you think every felony should be a life sentence? Should felons ever be allowed to own a gun? Should they be allowed to marry? Should they be subject to illegal searches and seizures? 

25 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Do you think every felony should be a life sentence? Should felons ever be allowed to own a gun? Should they be allowed to marry? Should they be subject to illegal searches and seizures? 

Now ask him about white collar felons 

11 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Now ask him about white collar felons 

I just want to know what rights people aren’t entitled to anymore even after serving their sentence. He says they shouldn’t vote so why would they even be protected under the constitution?
 

2 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Correct, but every convicted murderer, rapist, or child molester is.    I get it, it a huge boon for your team.  

 

negged for implying that murderers, rapists, and child molesters skew D. If you have some sort of scientific survey or study showing this to be true, post it up and i"ll retract my neg and apologize. Until then, fuck you.

 

 

How about only those without white supremacy friendly views are allowed to vote?  I mean, if we want to limit voting to only decent people.

What could DeSantis possibly attack Trump on that he also hasn’t supported himself?

47 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Should felons ever be allowed to own a gun? Should they be allowed to marry? Should they be subject to illegal searches and seizures? 

spoiler alert, his responses:

Yes as many as they want, yes but only straight, yes if they voted for someone I disagree with

 

3 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Correct, but every convicted murderer, rapist, or child molester is.    I get it, it a huge boon for your team.  

Convicted isn't necessarily guilty.  The system is not infallible.  There is also rampant corruption.  But you know that, don't you.  Just you don't give a shit.  Every time I think you can sink no lower, you prove me wrong.

3 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

What about them? Sounds like people who couldn’t make it in a lawful society.  Hundreds of millions in the country aren’t felons. It’s not difficult.    

I know you make your living on them, certainly no bias there. 

I make a living regardless of whether convicted felons can vote. 

I know you have a borderline psychotic hatred for poor people of color, certainly no bias there.

19 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Convicted isn't necessarily guilty.  The system is not infallible.  There is also rampant corruption.  But you know that, don't you.  Just you don't give a shit.  Every time I think you can sink no lower, you prove me wrong.

And yet y'all continue to interact with him as if he's arguing in good faith.  Even if you give him that, he's just an unpersuadable moron.  Life is much nicer with him on ignore.

7 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

And when Trump turns on his firehose of bullshit and starts shouting and interrupting and talking over him, DeSantis won’t have a response. His whole shtick is based on emulating Trump and that’s not going to work when he gets in the ring with Trump. He can’t out-Trump Trump. 

4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

desantis isn’t a good debater 

3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

Trump will attack and attack some more. Desantis will have a deer in the headlights look 

Given what we've seen of DeSantis trying to get Trump supporters kicked out of his rallies, how he acts towards the media and Florida in general, he's such an insane control freak that he will absolutely be a deer-in-headlights if he takes the stage with Trump.  Trump will just start spouting off made-up bullshit and making claims about DeSantis and DeSantis won't know how to respond, because he can't have Trump kicked out, and he can't have Trump silenced, and he damned sure can't walk off the stage, and he's not use to people confronting him face-to-face the way Trump would in a debate.

DeSantis's only hope would be to grow a spine (and a couple of inches) and methodically destroy Trump, by questioning his business acumen (or lack thereof), his decisions as President, his losing the White House, Senate, and House, his corruption (taking hundreds of millions in and spending very little of it on anybody but himself), and he could even go and talk about why Trump took in those hundreds of millions after the election but didn't help the J6 insurrectionists with their legal bills.

DeSantis would have to grow one helluva spine though, because he probably only gets one chance to destroy Trump on the debate stage, and unless he completely takes him down in some kind of John Oliver-esque rant, he will be finished as MAGA will turn up against him.

But.....if DeSantis grew a spine and grew some charisma, and just utterly destroyed Trump to his face - calling into question his leadership (including over COVID), his losses of the WH, Senate, and House, branding Trump an absolute loser, and Trump's inability to accomplish so much of what he bragged that he would do, as well as Trump's family getting in on making money (Jared's ties to the Saudis, etc.) DeSantis has a chance.

I don't think DeSantis is competent enough to do it though.

6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

But.....if DeSantis grew a spine and grew some charisma, and just utterly destroyed Trump to his face - calling into question his leadership (including over COVID), his losses of the WH, Senate, and House, branding Trump an absolute loser, and Trump's inability to accomplish so much of what he bragged that he would do, as well as Trump's family getting in on making money (Jared's ties to the Saudis, etc.) DeSantis has a chance.

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1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

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We're talking about MAGA - I think if he could win points with these idiots if he could make the loser label stick to Trump, and let Trump sputter and bitch about stolen elections, and then respond with "unlike this loser, I'm not going to let the Democrats steal the election from me" or he could point out the 60+ lawsuits that Trump lost and ask how many more lawsuits Trump will lose before people realize he's a loser.  These people want to own the libtards, and he just has to convince them that Trump is not the path to owning the libtards.

But as I said, he's not competent enough.

And he doesn't have the spine to call Trump a loser to his face. 

3 hours ago, Foosters said:

I know you have a borderline psychotic hatred for poor people of color, certainly no bias there.

I haven’t said anything about people of color. I said felons. That you are tying them together says a lot, though.  A whole lot. Accusations, confessions yada yada. 

1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

I haven’t said anything about people of color. I said felons. That you are tying them together says a lot, though.  A whole lot. Accusations, confessions yada yada. 

You misunderstand. I think you're a racist. Sorry, should have been more clear.

3 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

And yet y'all continue to interact with him as if he's arguing in good faith.  Even if you give him that, he's just an unpersuadable moron.  Life is much nicer with him on ignore.

Why do you believe I’m not acting in good faith. In 99.999% of cases, they are a net negative to society, and will never provide back to society what we spent on them. And that’s before you tally the pain, suffering, or financial loss when they committed their crime.  Many times “rehabilitated” and back in society long before their victims recover, many that never do. Rape victims and family members of the murdered out front should have told you.  I get that every vote counts and all that, but torbush. 

1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

Why do you believe I’m not acting in good faith. In 99.999% of cases, they are a net negative to society, and will never provide back to society what we spent on them. And that’s before you tally the pain, suffering, or financial loss when they committed their crime.  Many times “rehabilitated” and back in society long before their victims recover, many that never do. Rape victims and family members of the murdered out front should have told you.  I get that every vote counts and all that, but torbush. 

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2 minutes ago, Foosters said:

You misunderstand. I think you're a racist. Sorry, should have been more clear.

I understood what you meant.  I’ll tally all the fucks I give and get back with you.   Still, odd how you needed  put words in my mouth to make a point.  You seem like a tremendous attorney.  

22 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I understood what you meant.  I’ll tally all the fucks I give and get back with you.   Still, odd how you needed  put words in my mouth to make a point.  You seem like a tremendous attorney.  

I rarely neg but this post deserved it. 

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14 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

DeSantis was John Oliver’s main story last night and he devoted most of the show to it. We’ll see if the whole thing stays up.

 

Okay, here’s just the DeSantis part without the extras.

 

First thing Trump should do in a future debate is call out Ron's high heeled boots and then fuck with him about it in that unique Trump/New Yorker way. He'll have Ron so fucking mad he won't be able to think in about 2 minutes. 

"Those are nice boot, Ron. Can you guys out there see Ron's boots? What is that, a 3" heel? Jesus...Melania doesn't even wear heels that high. What are you, about 5'8"?" 

This manlet meatball wears high-heels.   I guess we all know why meatball ron didn't pass a law banning transvestites. /Trump (it doesn't have to make sense, its Trump voice)

Meatball Ron hates when he can't control the narrative. That's why he runs from reporters or attacks them when questioned with the usual right wing "fake news/false narrative" buzzwords. He'll wilt when Trump just keeps going at him over and over. Trump will be especially cruel because he feels DeSantis owes his very existence to DJT. 

Cloudy with a chance of meatball shoes : r/ATBGE

Melania needs to wear these to the first debate

1 hour ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

First thing Trump should do in a future debate is call out Ron's high heeled boots and then fuck with him about it in that unique Trump/New Yorker way. He'll have Ron so fucking mad he won't be able to think in about 2 minutes. 

"Those are nice boot, Ron. Can you guys out there see Ron's boots? What is that, a 3" heel? Jesus...Melania doesn't even wear heels that high. What are you, about 5'8"?" 

Isn’t the joke about drag shows and then you go full court press?

See exchange below:

“You banned drag shows in Florida, but you’re here in high heels!

I guess Cinderellas glass slippers didn’t make you appear tall enough?

He says he’s fighting the woke liberals, but not even Nancy wears heals that high!

Maybe I should call him Ron De-Santos because that’s the only other Rino I’ve seen wear high heals!”

watched the Jon Oliver piece last night.  The part when he/his admin directed cops to go in guns drawn and arrest poor (mostly/all black at least from the video) people for voting issues that happened in some cases years ago was crazy.  Even the cops were like WTF am i doing here dragging people out of their homes on this BS.  all of it to manufacture some tiny shred of evidence that tougher election security is needed.  Hurting people for an insignificant bullet point in his narrative. 

 

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