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The chances are 100% that Trump will look to use federal agents (fbi, ice, us marshals) to deliver the Texas dems back to the Capitol. He will love to trigger the Dems to see their politicians in zip tie handcuffs and perhaps black bags over their heads.

even if a court ultimately said that the feds exceeded their power, who cares if that ruling comes down after the fact.

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15 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

That's why they for dead-certain real need to go into actual hiding.  And that starts with ditching all existing cell phones and devices.  Get them burner phones.  Start acting like you are the resistance to a gestapo police state.  Because that's exactly what you are.

this.

i assume there's also some lawfare (outside of Texas) they could try since this is related to federal elections, like a restraining order from an indigenous mutiracial nonbinary genderqueer Biden appointee

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It’d be funny if Trump ordered the FBI to arrest them and the FBI just refused. That’s the one federal law enforcement organization that has plenty of reason to hate Trump.

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48 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

It’d be funny if Trump ordered the FBI to arrest them and the FBI just refused. That’s the one federal law enforcement organization that has plenty of reason to hate Trump.

You haven't been paying enough attention.  They will probably just send in ICE to do the job.  They hired authoritarian losers for a reason.  

 

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Seems like a dumb and futile move, actually.

Okay, so you’re critical of the Democrat response to a situation.

Just to clarify, how do you feel about the actual situation that prompted that response? Do you think Texas should redraw congressional districts before the 2026 midterms?
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On 8/4/2025 at 4:15 PM, InkaUtexas said:

The Texas House of Representatives voted on Monday to compel more than 50 Democratic Party lawmakers to return to the body in order to vote on a highly controversial redistricting effort to try and net the national Republican Party 5 more seats in Congress. The House officially empowered Texas state troopers and the House’s sergeant-at-arms to track down the members and arrest them, but they would not face any kind of charges under the order.

House Speaker Dustin Burrows (R) announced he would sign the arrest warrants after the vote on Monday, which are only valid inside Texas’s border – making them purely symbolic as the lawmakers have all fled the state.  Democrats are trying to delay the vote by not allowing the GOP-controlled body to have a quorum — a minimum number of members present in order to conduct official business.

Texas Governor Greg Abbott (R) also ordered the Texas Department of Public Safety to arrest the absent Democrats.

“Texas House Democrats abandoned their duty to Texans by fleeing the state, Texas House Democrats are holding hostage critical legislation to aid flood victims and advance property tax relief. There are consequences for dereliction of duty,” Abbott’s office said in a statement, adding:

https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/just-in-texas-issues-arrest-warrants-for-democratic-lawmakers-who-fled-to-avoid-redistricting-vote/

 

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1 hour ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Seems like a dumb and futile move, actually.

Just lay back and enjoy it. 
             —Clayton Williams

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15 minutes ago, CTC2 said:
42 minutes ago, wild_turkey said:


Okay, so you’re critical of the Democrat response to a situation.

Just to clarify, how do you feel about the actual situation that prompted that response? Do you think Texas should redraw congressional districts before the 2026 midterms?

Just lay back and enjoy it. 
             —Clayton Williams

You both misunderstood my comment.  I think that it is dumb and futile to get the FBI involved in a state issue.

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One way to frame this situation is enough people have withdrawn their consent to be governed, according to our laws, and the lege needs to find a way forward without jack booted thugs, activist judges, and a power mad executive dictating to the people.

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2 hours ago, Evil Bill Obrien said:

So are we going to live in a state where the governor can just pick and choose what representatives get to stay in office and unilaterally remove those who oppose?

 

 

Let this come to fruition and I will put $10K in the Gene Wu for governor campaign pile.  

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2 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

One way to frame this situation is enough people have withdrawn their consent to be governed, according to our laws, and the lege needs to find a way forward without jack booted thugs, activist judges, and a power mad executive dictating to the people.

 

define an 'activist judge'

 

Bored Daily Show GIF by CTV Comedy Channel

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12 hours ago, Horn Dog said:

The arguments may be deeply unserious, and yet they will work.

Because our current Texas Supreme Court is also unserious.  They're Trump/Abbott lackeys who wear robes.

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5 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

the worst fucking state 

only because of the promise. other states have as bad people/governance, but the potential for greatness isn't there. that's what makes texas such a disappointment 

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A quick note on the power of the gerrymander...

Here's how Texas voted in the last few elections:

  • 2024 Presidential election: Trump 56.2%, Harris 42.5%, Others 1.3%
  • 2022 Gubernatorial election: Abbott 54.8%,  O'Rourke 43.9%, Others 1.3%
  • 2020 Presidential election: Trump 52.1%, Biden 46.5%, Others 1.4%
  • 2018 Gubernatorial election: Abbott 55.8%, Valdez 42.5%, Others 1.7%

The current US House delegation from Texas has 38 members: 25 Republicans and 13 Democrats.  Republicans have 65% of the seats.

If Republicans pick up 5 more seats, Republicans will control 78% of the seats in a state where they poll between 52-56% of the population.

If the Texas delegation mirrored the statewide results, Texas would have 20-21 Republicans and 17-18 Democrats. They would have  five fewer Republicans than they do now.

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Counteroffer: We will cede to the gerrymandering on the condition that all Democratic Party and Independent members will no longer be subjected to Taxes of any kind within the State of Texas, in keeping with a founding principle of this great nation, “no taxation without representation.”
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32 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

A quick note on the power of the gerrymander...

Here's how Texas voted in the last few elections:

  • 2024 Presidential election: Trump 56.2%, Harris 42.5%, Others 1.3%
  • 2022 Gubernatorial election: Abbott 54.8%,  O'Rourke 43.9%, Others 1.3%
  • 2020 Presidential election: Trump 52.1%, Biden 46.5%, Others 1.4%
  • 2018 Gubernatorial election: Abbott 55.8%, Valdez 42.5%, Others 1.7%

The current US House delegation from Texas has 38 members: 25 Republicans and 13 Democrats.  Republicans have 65% of the seats.

If Republicans pick up 5 more seats, Republicans will control 78% of the seats in a state where they poll between 52-56% of the population.

If the Texas delegation mirrored the statewide results, Texas would have 20-21 Republicans and 17-18 Democrats. They would have  five fewer Republicans than they do now.

“Schools of thought,” eh @Ag with kids

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10 hours ago, Texas Jeff said:

A quick note on the power of the gerrymander...

Here's how Texas voted in the last few elections:

  • 2024 Presidential election: Trump 56.2%, Harris 42.5%, Others 1.3%
  • 2022 Gubernatorial election: Abbott 54.8%,  O'Rourke 43.9%, Others 1.3%
  • 2020 Presidential election: Trump 52.1%, Biden 46.5%, Others 1.4%
  • 2018 Gubernatorial election: Abbott 55.8%, Valdez 42.5%, Others 1.7%

The current US House delegation from Texas has 38 members: 25 Republicans and 13 Democrats.  Republicans have 65% of the seats.

If Republicans pick up 5 more seats, Republicans will control 78% of the seats in a state where they poll between 52-56% of the population.

If the Texas delegation mirrored the statewide results, Texas would have 20-21 Republicans and 17-18 Democrats. They would have  five fewer Republicans than they do now.

I’ve been saying for years that the Dems will win this state back by winning statewide elections first. There is no other way. If they start to break this gerrymandered map, republicans will just create a new one. It’s whack-a-mole.

About 7 years ago I did some in-depth demographic/election research and pegged 2028 as when dems would be capable of pulling this off. Increasing Hispanic population combined with burbs turning blue would do the trick. 

I don’t give Dems much of a shot before 2128 now. Caveat is that nobody knows what a post-Trump political landscape looks like. 

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Seven years ago you probably didn’t count on a huge influx of conservative California republicans seeking political likemindedness, or the shift right for that increasing Hispanic demographic 

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10 hours ago, Nivek said:


Counteroffer: We will cede to the gerrymandering on the condition that all Democratic Party and Independent members will no longer be subjected to Taxes of any kind within the State of Texas, in keeping with a founding principle of this great nation, “no taxation without representation.”

How about they just pay to relocate us to a place of our choosing with a pocketful of bitcoin in exchange for us never coming back?

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34 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Seven years ago you probably didn’t count on a huge influx of conservative California republicans seeking political likemindedness, or the shift right for that increasing Hispanic demographic 

Yep. Mainly the shift in Hispanic men. Turbo fucks all the calculations if it’s permanent. Could easily change once Trump is out. A lot of the blue collar machismo guys like Trumps bravado but wouldn’t give two shits about a guy like Vance.

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On 8/5/2025 at 2:50 PM, Brisketexan said:

That's why they for dead-certain real need to go into actual hiding.  And that starts with ditching all existing cell phones and devices.  Get them burner phones.  Start acting like you are the resistance to a gestapo police state.  Because that's exactly what you are.

Ten of them should schedule elective surgeries that require weeks long convalescence. 

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15 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

And away we go!

Does this MFer really think he's going to be able to earn Trump's endorsement with this shit (and the incessant YouTube ads about his voting record in support of Trump)?  Gawd, he's fucking naive.

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Does this MFer really think he's going to be able to earn Trump's endorsement with this shit (and the incessant YouTube ads about his voting record in support of Trump)?  Gawd, he's fucking naive.

Saw one of his ads on tv during the evening news. Was genuinely surprised it didn’t include the phrase “he sucks Trump’s dick and gargles the gravy,” because that was 100% the message of the entire ad.
Nevermind all the other issues with that…how humiliating that must be. To be so over-the-top obsequious to a man you’re smart enough to know is a moronic loathsome amoral toad…Jesus. There is no bottom for these people. And importantly, no dignity or self-respect. To cuck yourself so absolutely, how pathetic.
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12 minutes ago, TexPx said:

The Huffines Effect
You must OUT-MAGA your opponent.

...and the only way to do that is to go full Reek supplication obsequious orange knob-gobbling.  It's just so fucking humiliating.

After telling these people "this is what you need to do to win/keep this office," the next thing to do is ask "so, do you have ANY dignity or self-respect?"  And the answer, for almost all of these folks, is "nope.  Not even a fucking molecule."

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...and the only way to do that is to go full Reek supplication obsequious orange knob-gobbling.  It's just so fucking humiliating.
After telling these people "this is what you need to do to win/keep this office," the next thing to do is ask "so, do you have ANY dignity or self-respect?"  And the answer, for almost all of these folks, is "nope.  Not even a fucking molecule."

It’s to the point where Democrats need to break some unwritten rules. Research the names of these people’s children, and publicly shame them in public. “Sarah, does it make you proud that your father has completely abandoned all of the principles to follow a man who couldn’t pick him out of a lineup?” “Jimmy, how does it make you feel when your mom says things on tv that are completely opposite of what she says at home?”

It’s time for mental warfare on these folks.
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2 hours ago, David Dennison said:

And away we go!

 

FBI Agents: "Sure, we can locate them. They're in the fucking Hyatt downtown. There, done our jobs, we're off to golf."

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On 8/5/2025 at 2:48 PM, Nice Guy Eddie said:

The chances are 100% that Trump will look to use federal agents (fbi, ice, us marshals) to deliver the Texas dems back to the Capitol.

I think this is likely

14 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Seven years ago you probably didn’t count on a huge influx of conservative California republicans seeking political likemindedness, or the shift right for that increasing Hispanic demographic 

I completely disagree. Both were well underway and visible in the data, but the Democratic Party wasn’t paying attention to the data and instead was busy huffing out-of-state consultant bullshit about “The Hispanic Vote” and “centering marginalized communities,” but not the marginalized communities that actually power the Democratic voting coalition in the state of Texas. 

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If Pritzker is paying, anyway, I hear Toronto is pleasant this time of year.  Also, best exotic dancing north of Atlanta.  



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