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2 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Well, the NRA pretty much owns the GOP now, so.

Yeah, the founding fathers and the constitution are just excuses. It’s just money. The NRA is buying off politicians and we’re dying because of it. 

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At what point will I be able to claim asylum to get the fuck out of here? I can tell Ireland that I'm mostly Irish and if they send me back to the US, I'm going to be shot. How can they deny me at this point? 

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19 minutes ago, Clintonaldo said:

NRA is about to get some good fundraising out of this due to people believing that the gubment is going to take their pew pews. 

Shit stains like Alex Jones profit off every one of these too. It makes them all worse. 

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Don't act like New Brunswick isn't involved in this somehow!  Only the world's largest maker of bowling alley and pool hall equipment.  

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1 minute ago, 1978horn said:

So the shooter is allegedly in the reserves, a firearms instructor , and a tactical trainer…at least he is well regulated militia.

I read he was separated from the reserves side to mental issues. 

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2 minutes ago, 1978horn said:

So the shooter is allegedly in the reserves, a firearms instructor , and a tactical trainer…at least he is well regulated militia.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

I read he was separated from the reserves side to mental issues. 

This appears to be a common theme. Well, obviously that and a gun(s).  It is always interesting to me how all these fucking people that are that fucked up plan so well. I guess it’s a mystery. I am on a scanner radio and they keep saying STK and two. Not sure what any of that means. Anyway it always amazes me these people always leave a social media trail and always seem to be unhinged yet can plan and basically execute stuff despite how unwell they are. I guess motivation to take as many people out as you can before you are caught or killed is the goal. 

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3 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:


until the moment he shot somebody, he hadn’t broken the law or even exploited a loophole in the system. 

Yet as crazy as he is he somehow plotted and planned this and has a social media trail. The idea that people who are mentally ill are in some trance and can’t distinguish between right and wrong on every level is bullshit. But none of this matters because this particular nut had access to a gun. And again probably left a trail of crazy all over the internet. Planned and executed with a purpose. Shouldn’t have had guns anyway. No doubt it’s a breakdown of someone who didn’t get what they wanted 

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6 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

This appears to be a common theme. Well, obviously that and a gun(s).  It is always interesting to me how all these fucking people that are that fucked up plan so well. I guess it’s a mystery. I am on a scanner radio and they keep saying STK and two. Not sure what any of that means. Anyway it always amazes me these people always leave a social media trail and always seem to be unhinged yet can plan and basically execute stuff despite how unwell they are. I guess motivation to take as many people out as you can before you are caught or killed is the goal. 

STK-shoot to kill.  If they're saying "two", they likely mean to put two rounds into him if it's clear, just to be sure.  Apparently the quick jacket they did on him means they there's no sense in trying to take him in alive and even lethally woudned, he can still do much more damage.  Not even worth trying to interrogate these guys anymore, we know why they're doing this.  

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1 minute ago, YGIFS said:

STK-shoot to kill.  If they're saying "two", they likely mean to put two rounds into him if it's clear, just to be sure.  Apparently the quick jacket they did on him means they there's no sense in trying to take him in alive and even lethally woudned, he can still do much more damage.  Not even worth trying to interrogate these guys anymore, we know why they're doing this.  

I can post a link. Oh Jesus. Stk stk

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8 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Yet as crazy as he is he somehow plotted and planned this and has a social media trail. The idea that people who are mentally ill are in some trance and can’t distinguish between right and wrong on every level is bullshit. But none of this matters because this particular nut had access to a gun. And again probably left a trail of crazy all over the internet. Planned and executed with a purpose. Shouldn’t have had guns anyway. No doubt it’s a breakdown of someone who didn’t get what they wanted 

we don’t know if he’s crazy. 

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9 minutes ago, Leeroy Jenkins said:

Some reports said he was banned from owning weapons as he is a sex offender. 

Please provide some kind of link if you're going to post something like that

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until the moment he shot somebody, he hadn’t broken the law or even exploited a loophole in the system. 

Sounds like the pit Bull argument
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You're gonna wanna turn it off after he's brought in/taken out.  Because they'll spend the rest of the night describing more and more victims they discover.  The bowling alley place is known for hosting kid's birthday parties after school.  The bar/grille looks like an old-timers/regulars hangout.  So possibly lots of children and elderly folks wounded who won't survive the week.  Plus the actual 20+ already dead.  

Seems his shooting gallery was a relatively confined space physically speaking, just 2-3 buildings all very near one another.  The bar/grille looks like the kinda place sportsmen hang out when not outdoors.  But like Texas, I'm guessing they can't bring firearms into a place that serves mostly liquor.  But nobody had a chance to slip out and grab a pistol/rifle from their truck?  That seems odd given the location and clientele and lax gun laws there.  I wouldn't blame any of them though-if I have a handgun or hunting rifle with a small mag, I gotta try to slip out without being noticed, go get it, slink back in or get to the windows, and hope my girlie gun is enough to eliminate him before his overwhelmingly more powerful gun ruins me and everyone near me.  

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4 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

You're gonna wanna turn it off after he's brought in/taken out.  Because they'll spend the rest of the night describing more and more victims they discover.  The bowling alley place is known for hosting kid's birthday parties after school.  The bar/grille looks like an old-timers/regulars hangout.  So possibly lots of children and elderly folks wounded who won't survive the week.  Plus the actual 20+ already dead.  

Seems his shooting gallery was a relatively confined space physically speaking, just 2-3 buildings all very near one another.  The bar/grille looks like the kinda place sportsmen hang out when not outdoors.  But like Texas, I'm guessing they can't bring firearms into a place that serves mostly liquor.  But nobody had a chance to slip out and grab a pistol/rifle from their truck?  That seems odd given the location and clientele and lax gun laws there.  I wouldn't blame any of them though-if I have a handgun or hunting rifle with a small mag, I gotta try to slip out without being noticed, go get it, slink back in or get to the windows, and hope my girlie gun is enough to eliminate him before his overwhelmingly more powerful gun ruins me and everyone near me.  

Yeah, that's a great fantasy to jerkoff to.  Have you been shot at before?   

 

Here's my hero fantasy when I'm being shot at:  the gunman slips in the runny shit that flows out of my pant leg, and hits his head and is knocked unconcious.  I, stench and all, recover his weapon and hold him at bay until the police arrive to shoot me and my dog. 

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So supposedly there is a twitter account that uses the same picture as his now disabled fb page. I dont have twitter and cant find shit now that Elon fucked it up...but this is supposedly from the "likes". Could easily be fabricated internet bullshit, but it illustrates exactly how fucking stupid this argument has always been. 

CDN media

 

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6 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

we don’t know if he’s crazy. 

Every single one of them “is crazy” to think that their master plan is to inflict as much harm as they can. Why do the suicide/homicide bombers load up on drugs? Because it’s all about inflicting maximum harm and maximum suffering before they either die or whatever they want to achieve. They aren’t dealing with a full deck that way. I get pissed driving at 7 am traffic (or early) doesn’t mean I set up a scenario to take out people. Most of the mass shooters have a social media profile. Most have grievances. They plan and execute and do what they do. He apparently he heard voices and was committed to a mental health facility this year. 

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1 minute ago, Gil Bang said:

Yeah, that's a great fantasy to jerkoff to.  Have you been shot at before?   

 

Here's my hero fantasy when I'm being shot at:  the gunman slips in the runny shit that flows out of my pant leg, and hits his head and is knocked unconcious.  I, stench and all, recover his weapon and hold him at bay until the police arrive to shoot me and my dog. 

No.  And no.  That's my point.  I think that's why the "good guy with a gun" fallacy falls short 97% of the time, but it persists somehow in places like Maine and Texas where our gun laws are so relaxed so we can protect one another.  Because the potential hero has to do all that shit just to get an underpowered weapon against a modified, high-capacity rifle.  So they quickly do the risk assessment and realize the better option is to flee or hide.  

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It’s not mentally ill it’s mainly I am confused as to how the “master plan” is to kill as many people as possible and to execute it to perfection. Yet be a bit nuts. And be confined to a mental institution and still do this. I think they are just “off” in life and pissed that it’s how it shook out for them and just want to inflict harm. 

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i mean just bc someone is mentally ill or 'nuts' doesn't mean they are stupid or mentally incompetent or intellectually disabled. i think maybe you have a narrow definition of mental illness 🤔 

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52 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

No.  And no.  That's my point.  I think that's why the "good guy with a gun" fallacy falls short 97% of the time, but it persists somehow in places like Maine and Texas where our gun laws are so relaxed so we can protect one another.  Because the potential hero has to do all that shit just to get an underpowered weapon against a modified, high-capacity rifle.  So they quickly do the risk assessment and realize the better option is to flee or hide.  

And that fact right there is why those types of firearms need to be banned. Full stop.

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Just now, Covri said:

No offense but can you not Nicole44 this thread?

Sure. You seem cool though. 💜 I’m out. Sorry for treading on y’all’s sacred turf. 

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If his tortured mental health history and institutionalization can be verified, what could possibly go wrong if he’s allowed to legally possess guns?

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2 hours ago, freyguy said:

this is what happens when you don't protect our borders.

...or something


No shit. Why do I need to worry about the assholes coming across the border any more than the assholes already here?  And I put the Jan 6 insurrectionists in that group, too.

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1 hour ago, Blotto said:

So supposedly there is a twitter account that uses the same picture as his now disabled fb page. I dont have twitter and cant find shit now that Elon fucked it up...but this is supposedly from the "likes". Could easily be fabricated internet bullshit, but it illustrates exactly how fucking stupid this argument has always been. 

CDN media

 


D'Souza appears to have said written this, but as a sandalone tweet, not as a response to Robert Card.
 


 

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42 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Sure. You seem cool though. 💜 I’m out. Sorry for treading on y’all’s sacred turf. 

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I deleted my post a couple seconds after I made it because I decided it sounded mean. You do you. 

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6 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


D'Souza appears to have said written this, but as a sandalone tweet, not as a response to Robert Card.
 


 

Right, D'Souza posted his tweet and Card liked it. Didnt mean to imply anything else. 

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5 minutes ago, Covri said:

I deleted my post a couple seconds after I made it because I decided it sounded mean. You do you. 

I didn’t think you were mean and even though I said wouldn’t post again (ok just this once because it’s Halloween my favorite time of the year.) y’all don’t have to like me. I’ve been through absolute shit this year. Three funerals of family members in 1 1/2 years. I have opinions as y’all have yours.  I’m cool with y’all’s.
 

I barely bother y’all and if I do it’s because I try very hard to abide by TOS.  I’m not on FB or Instagram or Snapchat.

This is my home too. Just like it is yours. 
 

a bowling alley and a bar speak to someone the shooter was clearly friends with or mad at imo. Someone or someone’s who tried to get him help. 

I actually Nicole’d this up. Sorry. Fuck! Happy Halloween. 

 

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3 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

It’s not mentally ill it’s mainly I am confused as to how the “master plan” is to kill as many people as possible and to execute it to perfection. Yet be a bit nuts. And be confined to a mental institution and still do this. I think they are just “off” in life and pissed that it’s how it shook out for them and just want to inflict harm. 

Mental illness is a real fucking thing in this world and there’s no real solution to the problem because there’s no definitive way to treat it. Everyone talks about AI destroying the world but they need to focus on how mental illness is coming dangerously close to destroying humanity.

This country has an outrageously high level of tolerance for people doing batshit crazy things. Sandy Hook proved that killing dozens of children with an assault weapon is not enough to ban the weapons themselves. The notion that freedom is free has clouded our judgment from seeing the possibilities of what humans are capable of when they are suffering from mental illness. 

Being mentally ill doesn’t necessarily incapacitate a person and prevent them from achieving their goals. They can be fully functional and carry out the goal to fruition. The mental illness is revealed by the goal itself and how it manifests into a person’s brain causing them to act out with no regard for people around them. 

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21 minutes ago, MrBig said:

Mental illness is a real fucking thing in this world and there’s no real solution to the problem because there’s no definitive way to treat it. Everyone talks about AI destroying the world but they need to focus on how mental illness is coming dangerously close to destroying humanity.

This country has an outrageously high level of tolerance for people doing batshit crazy things. Sandy Hook proved that killing dozens of children with an assault weapon is not enough to ban the weapons themselves. The notion that freedom is free has clouded our judgment from seeing the possibilities of what humans are capable of when they are suffering from mental illness. 

Being mentally ill doesn’t necessarily incapacitate a person and prevent them from achieving their goals. They can be fully functional and carry out the goal to fruition. The mental illness is revealed by the goal itself and how it manifests into a person’s brain causing them to act out with no regard for people around them. 

There is no solution. If someone is mentally ill and they have the luxury of finding out for however painfully long it takes what is wrong  (if you can afford it) to get the right meds.
 

In a perfect world we pay for those meds and hopefully even with side effects these people stay the course. The real truth is even with free insurance and the best free healthcare the vast majority of mentally ill people decide the meds make them feel worse. Stop taking them. Turn to other methods for a high or a low. I’ve dealt with this on a personal level with people I love. There is no fix.

Take meds or be something else. The something else is what they want to be without meds. . It’s like dealing with an addict. There is no fix.  Unless people are ok with a Britney Spears type conservatorship forever.
They have to sober up and realize they have that issue and stick to a course. They fall off of it and this is what happens. 

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2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

There is no solution. If someone is mentally ill and they have the luxury of finding out for however painfully long it takes what is wrong  (if you can afford it) to get the right meds.
 

In a perfect world we pay for those meds and hopefully even with side effects these people stay the course. The real truth is even with free insurance and the best free healthcare the vast majority of mentally ill people decide the meds make them feel worse. Stop taking them. Turn to other methods for a high or a low. I’ve dealt with this on a personal level with people I love. There is no fix.

Take meds or be something else. The something else is what they want to be without meds. . It’s like dealing with an addict. There is no fix.  Unless people are ok with a Britney Spears type conservatorship forever.
They have to sober up and realize they have that issue and stick to a course. They fall off of it and this is what happens. 

Even if it was just about taking medications, not all medications are the same. My uncle is mentally ill and I have been picking up his medication for 20 years. I always look to see what manufacturer the generic is. That shit matters even when they say it doesn’t and generics are supposedly all equal. If it’s going to be six months of a certain generic manufacturer, I know we’ll be in for one hell of a ride.

Do investigators look into this when they look at medical history of mass shooters? I firmly believe that changing a medication from one generic manufacturer to another (while keeping the exact same dose) can play a role in how the body responds to medication. So when medical history says you’ve been on X medication for number of years, we need to look deeper into what company is making the generic and if behavioral symptoms started to change following the administration of a different generic manufacturer of the exact same dose. 

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