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4 hours ago, HuttNuts said:

You are talking about the same school/fan base that was blown away that it's possible to produce historical AC temperature settings. 

Wait.. you can do that?

Posted
3 hours ago, APMP said:
3 hours ago, nnm said:
They could have, but they would have cut their throats on future coach prospects. JMHO, that’s why they didn’t invoke. 

Agree... Let's see how the geniuses at LSU handle it

Simple….if Kelly will just walk in backwards, they’ll think he’s leaving!

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Posted
51 minutes ago, Helobious said:

Lol at everyone saying LSU is the stupid ones. Kelly will take a settlement of like $30 million to go away, and LSU will have saved themselves $20 million. He can’t go toe to toe with them in a court battle. 

Why not? The guy is a head football coach making north of $5 million per year for the last decade plus. You don't think he can afford to spend a few million in legal fees to gain a $20 million delta?

 

3 hours ago, nnm said:

They could have, but they would have cut their throats on future coach prospects. JMHO, that’s why they didn’t invoke. 

This. If they go into a protracted legal battle over a settlement that they so clearly owe, I don't think that any marketable head coach will touch this job until the case is concluded and they see what happens. Kelly didn't do shit to the school except underperform on the field. Outside of being an asshole, there is zero to go on for cause.  

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56 minutes ago, Helobious said:

I actually don’t believe a school can look bad to a future coach no matter what they do. Money is money. They could have paid $0 in buyout money and pubically tarred and fearhered Kelly after they fired him, and as long as they offer millions of $ per year to coach there would be clamoring by college coaches to get that job. 

Yes but you’re legitimate retarded, so…

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Posted
2 hours ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

If memory serves, we did this for 2 coaches in a row.  David McWilliams moved over to support the Texas Exes and we reassigned Mackovic to something facilities related I think.  McWilliams ended up thriving and stayed for a long time and provided great service to the university.  I think they did it for Mackovic to soften the landing.  I don't think he stuck around very long afterwards, but my memory is hazy.

What ever happened to Mackovic's son?   He was a good poster on these boards for a long time.    IIRC, he did undergrad at Texas and law school in Tucson.

Posted
6 minutes ago, Gil Bang said:

What ever happened to Mackovic's son?   He was a good poster on these boards for a long time.

He never got over Louie Anderson's death.

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Posted
30 minutes ago, DFW Horn said:

"Have you ever called your dad, 'my boy'?" 🤡

LSU made the right decision to keep his father away if that's how the son is going to behave.  "Free BK" and "my boy" - Jeebus, be your own man.

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On 11/11/2025 at 11:46 PM, Hairy Biped said:

So, my question with regards to the “Duty to Mitigate” clause, is how far does that go?  Does he have to keep looking for a coaching job, any coaching job, until he finds one?  Is he forced to accept a coordinator job at a shitty place like Youngstown State or something like that, if that's all who's offering?  How long is he required to make the effort?  I mean, can they effectively force him to take a job that he deems beneath him and if he refuses, they accuse him of acting in bad faith?  My guess is that ultimately both sides will come to some sort of settlement to avoid having to address those situations, but if they don't, then what?

There are no bright line rules.  You can't just sit around and collect checks, you've got to seek other employment.  You can't intentionally underemploy yourself to keep the checks big.  Nor can you unreasonably decline a job because it's somehow "beneath you."  You can't be expected to find a head coaching job that exceeds your current salary or is some arbitrary 75, 80% of it, either.

You have four years from the time the contract is breached until you must file suit or lose the claim.  Without contract language to the contrary (setting out a "buyout" or "liquidated damages") you'd be entitled to the monthly or periodic payments you'd have been entitled to if still employed, offset by the income of whatever employment you obtain.  So, your obligation to mitigate or avoid damages extends as long as your contract might have, or resolution occurs, by lawsuit, settlement, whatever.

In a trial, the coach is apt to argue that he couldn't get any better job than whatever he got, whatever it is, while the school is apt to argue that he should have sought/accepted some assistant/coordinator job at some large percentage of his salary.  The jury gets to sort it out.

Yes, it is a situation that begs for settlement/compromise.

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Posted
2 hours ago, 52-80 said:

getting paid $50M to sit at home because you did a poor job at work is such a boss move.

People are laughing at Brian Kelly and James Franklin while they each make somewhere around $20,000 a day. 

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On 11/23/2025 at 7:21 PM, TwiceHorn said:

There are no bright line rules.  You can't just sit around and collect checks, you've got to seek other employment.  You can't intentionally underemploy yourself to keep the checks big.  Nor can you unreasonably decline a job because it's somehow "beneath you."  You can't be expected to find a head coaching job that exceeds your current salary or is some arbitrary 75, 80% of it, either.

You have four years from the time the contract is breached until you must file suit or lose the claim.  Without contract language to the contrary (setting out a "buyout" or "liquidated damages") you'd be entitled to the monthly or periodic payments you'd have been entitled to if still employed, offset by the income of whatever employment you obtain.  So, your obligation to mitigate or avoid damages extends as long as your contract might have, or resolution occurs, by lawsuit, settlement, whatever.

In a trial, the coach is apt to argue that he couldn't get any better job than whatever he got, whatever it is, while the school is apt to argue that he should have sought/accepted some assistant/coordinator job at some large percentage of his salary.  The jury gets to sort it out.

Yes, it is a situation that begs for settlement/compromise.

This runs counter to Jimbo's contract, correct? His shit is fully guaranteed, X per year, until the duration ends.

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1 hour ago, TreatyOak said:

People are laughing at Brian Kelly and James Franklin while they each make somewhere around $20,000 a day. 

Not Franklin.  Dude went on Gameday a week after getting shitcanned and started looking for another job. His buyout went down to $9MM when he took the VA Tech job.  I kind of respect that. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, TreatyOak said:

People are laughing at Brian Kelly and James Franklin while they each make somewhere around $20,000 a day. 

we picked the wrong line of work to perform poorly at.

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Of course he was fired without cause. LSU was taking one of the most ridiculous positions I've seen in sports/contract law and they would have been pantsed in court, sovereign immunity notwithstanding. 

I wonder if this is also a signal they've agreed in principle with the next guy (or his agent)...

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10 minutes ago, APMP said:

Of course he was fired without cause. LSU was taking one of the most ridiculous positions I've seen in sports/contract law and they would have been pantsed in court, sovereign immunity notwithstanding. 

I wonder if this is also a signal they've agreed in principle with the next guy (or his agent)...

I'd love to blame their initial position on bad legal team but nothing LSU shows they are remotely competent. 

They likely got appropriate advise , chose what seemed like the best/cheapest and unlikely option that was advised against and went with it 

Embarrassing themselves even more , and paying more to the lawyers for being even more incompetent than anyone believed.  

Best job is fired HFC , second best job is their legal teams 

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On 11/23/2025 at 8:21 PM, TwiceHorn said:

Yes, it is a situation that begs for settlement/compromise.

I feel like BK has set himself up well based on the arguments that the actions of LSU up until this point has made it difficult for him to seek equivalent employment.

 

Posted
2 hours ago, BigHorn'13 said:

This runs counter to Jimbo's contract, correct? His shit is fully guaranteed, X per year, until the duration ends.

As stated in the post, unless there is some clause of the contract, variously called a "buyout," "guarantee," "liquidated damages," or whatever that specifies what happens if the institution terminates the contract without cause.  Jimbo's contract apparently stated that he received 100% of his compensation due under the contract, regardless.

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10 minutes ago, gatormarc said:

I feel like BK has set himself up well based on the arguments that the actions of LSU up until this point has made it difficult for him to seek equivalent employment.

 

Generally speaking, that's probably a disfavored argument in the courts:  "I'm damaged goods now, no one will hire me."  Courts hear that general species of argument in many contexts, trying to overinflate damages, and probably tend to be skeptical.

But the bigger shit show the institution makes of it the more traction that gets.

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23 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said: 

Best job is fired HFC , second best job is their legal teams 

Nah. Best job is Coaches' Agent. Get paid by errybody, just set up a few interviews here and there and deposit those checks.

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1 hour ago, cabowabo said:

Not Franklin.  Dude went on Gameday a week after getting shitcanned and started looking for another job. His buyout went down to $9MM when he took the VA Tech job.  I kind of respect that. 

Me too.

I'm glad he got hired at VaTech before CDC could make that mistake.

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4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Generally speaking, that's probably a disfavored argument in the courts:  "I'm damaged goods now, no one will hire me."  Courts hear that general species of argument in many contexts, trying to overinflate damages, and probably tend to be skeptical.

But the bigger shit show the institution makes of it the more traction that gets.

Yeah... I feel that it's a bigger PR negotiation tactic.

Posted
On 11/23/2025 at 6:45 PM, DFW Horn said:

"Have you ever called your dad, 'my boy'?" 🤡

My father, were he still alive, would have likely said "Son, I love you, but I think best if you don't bring me up in public. Ever again, un"

(To get the full joy from this message as I got from typing it, imagine it coming from a man with a heavy Italian accent.)

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Tex Long said:

Nah. Best job is Coaches' Agent. Get paid by errybody, just set up a few interviews here and there and deposit those checks.

Yup and the only actually work you have to do takes place over a period of 6 months.  Rest of the year you just cash commission checks.

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