Active shooter thread

[Satchel 6908]

Doesn’t meet the criterion to become a mass shooting, but the beat goes on:

https://www.wwltv.com/article/news/crime/nopd-investigating-shooting-at-xavier-university-near-the-convocation-center/289-2bb5a09d-8900-4e96-9ca5-06727bb4123c

1 dead, 2 injured in shooting following high school graduation on Xavier campus

[Seasick Sailor 3747]

 

[Brisketexan 104226]

35 minutes ago, elfenix said:

https://www.losangelesblade.com/2022/05/25/texas-trans-girl-assaulted-over-gop-lies-about-uvalde-shooting/

Stochastic terrorism, American example # 11 jillion.  Look it up.  This is exactly the plan and approach of the American "right."  Foment violence, and make sure that people are armed to the teeth to do your bidding.  Pittsburgh, Buffalo, El Paso, this trans girl -- all of them stochastic terrorism.  In a just world, people like Tucker Carlson would be heading to the hangman's noose as a terrorist.

[hookemATL 11585]

4 minutes ago, Seasick Sailor said:

 

Should have sent the fire dept with axes and hoses. They wouldn’t have hesitated. FAC forever

[Judge Roybeanbag 11773]

53 minutes ago, landman said:

Maybe this has already been discussed, but can the President not issue an executive order immediately banning the sale of AR's?  Or at least stopping the sale of them for some period of time so Congress can maybe think about doing something?

 

Maybe Congress should think about "doing something".  

[Dahobbs 17407]

57 minutes ago, landman said:

Maybe this has already been discussed, but can the President not issue an executive order immediately banning the sale of AR's?  Or at least stopping the sale of them for some period of time so Congress can maybe think about doing something?

 

I supposed he could technically do it. But it wouldn't be constitutional and would be immediately stayed by both the GOP planted crazy jurists and sane jurists alike. Trump was the only President that seriously thought he could do shit like that.

Edited May 31, 2022 by Dahobbs

[safe sex 11628]

20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Stochastic terrorism, American example # 11 jillion.  Look it up.  This is exactly the plan and approach of the American "right."  Foment violence, and make sure that people are armed to the teeth to do your bidding.  Pittsburgh, Buffalo, El Paso, this trans girl -- all of them stochastic terrorism.  In a just world, people like Tucker Carlson would be heading to the hangman's noose as a terrorist.

I don't feel safe traveling outside of Austin anymore

[Brisketexan 104226]

2 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

I don't feel safe traveling outside of Austin anymore

I look pretty gringo.....but I also like to frequent mexican groceries, taquerias, and the like.  You know, the kind of place that would be sweet targets for another El Paso type mexican-hunter.

[deech 2248]

 

 

[deech 2248]

 

 

[SimonBolivar 10890]

Just now, deech said:

 

 

That'll play well

[Bama Chick 28596]

Should have sent the fire dept with axes and hoses. They wouldn’t have hesitated. FAC forever

Funny how there’s never been a “Fuck the Firefighters!” song.

[TexasEd 8058]

On 5/30/2022 at 10:46 AM, BrickHorn said:

America has an insecure loser problem. Gun culture is birthed from rampant feelings of inadequacy. The winners in American society don’t post photos of all their guns arranged on the floor of their exurban tract home. That’s the social media MO of our losers.

Guns give a sense of power to the powerless. They’re a source of pride for those who haven’t earned it. In America, you can walk into a gun store and exchange your meager disposable income for a semi-automatic substitute for success. And you never have to do anything with those guns except own them and pose them and fantasize about all the heroic things you’d do with them in an imagined world of imminent threats.

These dipshits are all Ralphie with his Red Ryder carbine. Except Ralphie grew up.

 

5 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Gun nuts should just admit that holding a gun excites them and it has nothing to do with home protection, feral hogs or govt tyranny. 

 

Yep, this is the wet dream of "gun people" .  I'm a gun owner but not a gun person.  It is not where I get my sense of worth, they are tools for hobbies.

 

 

On 5/30/2022 at 2:33 PM, Willfully Horn said:

Holy Mary, mother of God, pray for us sinners…

 

I think Boobert is the groomer here.

[hobbes2702 12769]

2 minutes ago, deech said:

 

 

So why don’t we fire cops and start over?

Oh yea I forgot some people are mad about the word “defund”. 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11773]

Just now, SimonBolivar said:

That'll play well

It's pretty simple really.  Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth.  Uvalde got punched in the mouth, things went to shit and the nature of cops is to shrug any culpability and blame anyone and everyone around them for "bad" outcomes.  There is a drawback to "politicizing" certain areas of civilized society and this is the worst drawback of all.  

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

4 minutes ago, deech said:

 

 

Not cooperating with the police, hope the Uvalde PD and ISD PD are ready to get pepper sprayed and likely shot.

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

3 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

 

 

Yep, this is the wet dream of "gun people" .  I'm a gun owner but not a gun person.  It is not where I get my sense of worth, they are tools for hobbies.

 

 

I think Boobert is the groomer here.

For someone in shape she has really fat fingers

[Judge Roybeanbag 11773]

2 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

For someone in shape she has really fat fingers

They work overtime since her husband can't get it up except in public.

[deech 2248]

10 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

That'll play well

 

[TexasEd 8058]

9 minutes ago, deech said:

 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

It's pretty simple really.  Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the mouth.  Uvalde got punched in the mouth, things went to shit and the nature of cops is to shrug any culpability and blame anyone and everyone around them for "bad" outcomes.  There is a drawback to "politicizing" certain areas of civilized society and this is the worst drawback of all.  

 

4 minutes ago, Grade of D as in David said:

Not cooperating with the police, hope the Uvalde PD and ISD PD are ready to get pepper sprayed and likely shot.

I would not put the DPS Colonel's remarks about UPD fucking up past it being an order from Abbott to deflect blame to the local level.

Now the local level is not cooperating.  Abbott can play is "I was given inaccurate information card." 

[Biff Tannen 45439]

11 minutes ago, deech said:

 

 

Isn't the DOJ starting a federal investigation?

[Satchel 6908]

8 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

 

 

Yep, this is the wet dream of "gun people" .  I'm a gun owner but not a gun person.  It is not where I get my sense of worth, they are tools for hobbies.

 

 

I think Boobert is the groomer here.

For the life of me, I’ll never understand these kind of people.

[Willfully Horn 7911]

12 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

 

 

Yep, this is the wet dream of "gun people" .  I'm a gun owner but not a gun person.  It is not where I get my sense of worth, they are tools for hobbies.

 

 

I think Boobert is the groomer here.

Your post made me think of this tweet:

 

Edited May 31, 2022 by Willfully Horn
Phrasing

[Pancho 44183]

 

[MissingInAction 24746]

20 hours ago, HenryJames said:

 

The Canadian wilderness is one place I'd want a 30 round magazine. A pised off moose is nothing to fuck with.

[Bullneck 18959]

1 hour ago, landman said:

Maybe this has already been discussed, but can the President not issue an executive order immediately banning the sale of AR's?  Or at least stopping the sale of them for some period of time so Congress can maybe think about doing something?

 

Was listening to Morning Joe about that today.  He has about 0 power.  It's all about the Senate, or 52 people who should be fed to piranhas.  

[wildcat09 29146]

Even the pigs know not to talk to cops.

[Bullneck 18959]

9 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Isn't the DOJ starting a federal investigation?

I keep hearing it spoken of as "an effort to understand how they could have done better."  

[hayden_horn 11358]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Even the pigs know not to talk to cops.

exactly.

of anyone in law enforcement, local cops know exactly how easy it is to railroad a suspect who isn't guilty. hell, they'll even cut corners and break the law to make the guilty look more guilty.

[Brisketexan 104226]

3 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Your post made me think of this tweet:

 

Seeing the girl with the pink gun actually reminds me of how there's a whole attitude and culture at issue here.  My daughter asked for, and got, a Ruger 10/22 compact for Christmas right before she was 11.  Yes, while it is nominally "her gun," I bought it, I keep it in my gun safe, and I'm the only one with a key.  But, she is the primary shooter, she maintains it, and when we go to the range, it's hers to shoot.

Anyway, she fell in love with it when we took a short visit to Collector's Firearms in Houston.  She picked one up and shouldered it, and it just fit right.  She loved how it felt, and how it would shoot.  So, she asked for it for Christmas.  I shopped around for them, and saw that they offered it with a pink stock -- I asked her if she'd like that.  She looked at me, disgusted -- "no, I'm not a freak," or similar words.  She had really strong opinions about the fact that she wanted the gun because she wanted to go shoot it with me, not because it was going to be tied to her identity or some shit.

We have pictures of me at a very young age (like 5) with a .22.  My dad taught me to shoot with a little Winchester bolt action .22, because I loved to tag along when he went rabbit hunting.  He wasn't teaching me to be a gun person so much as he was introducing me to one of the many tools our family used down at the ranch.  To me, even at that age, it was a means to an end -- I'd carry a .22 so I could shoot a cottontail too (and grandma could make me her cast iron skillet fried rabbit, which was so freaking good).  I literally have been holding and using firearms for nearly 50 years.  Using them is a big part of who I am, recreationally -- I love to hunt and fish.  But just like my rods and reels don't define me, neither do my guns.  I use them both to do something I like to do.

Our gun IDENTITY culture is fucked up, but then, I think we have a lot of identity culture problems broadly (for fuck's sake, we have people who fly multiple flags dedicated to a former president, because being a member of that "tribe" is the defining element of their lives.....that's some fucked up shit).  And the pictures above, that's all those folks are doing.  Guns are not their tool.  "Guns!" is their tribe.  That's fucked up.

[Starfleet Command 441]

The non-ambulatory tyrant.

 

[Starfleet Command 441]

5 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Even the pigs know not to talk to cops.

Uvalde PD deserves plenty of blame but I doubt it stops there with how involved DPS and BPD were involved in the disaster.  Still, Abbott will probably shield DPS/BPD from blame (which could make him look bad) while throwing Uvalde PD into the fire.  

[Brisketexan 104226]

1 minute ago, Starfleet Command said:

The non-ambulatory tyrant.

 

I am reminded of a chalkboard sign outside a New Orleans business that I saw probably 20 years ago.  At the time, NOLA crime was even worse than it is now.  The chalkboard had a running tally of homicides by city, showing that NOLA was maintaining the #1 spot.

Below it was the author's comment on NOLA's shitshow status:

"How do we do it?  One word: LEADERSHIP!"

How is Texas such an utter shitshow?  One word: LEADERSHIP.  THIRTY FUCKING YEARS OF ONE-PARTY RULE -- THERE IS NOT A SINGLE ELEMENT OF OUR STATE GOVERNANCE THAT ISN'T 100% ON THEM NOW.

[Biff Tannen 45439]

12 minutes ago, MissingInAction said:

The Canadian wilderness is one place I'd want a 30 round magazine. A pised off moose is nothing to fuck with.

Same with Wu Tang

[BrickHorn 18134]

38 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

I'm a gun owner but not a gun person.

Same here. I think a lot of us fit that description.

It’s possible to own guns and enjoy shooting without being a fucking weirdo and injecting firearms into every aspect of your life.

It’s possible to own guns without being such a pussy that you think everyday life is too dangerous without a sidearm.

It’s possible to own guns while acknowledging that maybe there should be some limits as to what kinds of weapons civilians should have access to.

And it’s possible to own guns while believing that maybe the world would be we better off without guns at all.

Edited May 31, 2022 by BrickHorn

[jimmyjazz 45428]

I'm not a gun owner, so I know very little about shooting or gun safety, but those photos of little kids holding guns that are longer than they are tall just feels like an unsafe situation, and certainly bad teaching.

[InkaUtexas 25289]

4 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Same here. I think a lot of us fit that description.

It’s possible to own guns and enjoy shooting without being a fucking weirdo and injecting firearms into every aspect of your life.

It’s possible to own guns without being such a pussy that you think everyday life is too dangerous without a sidearm.

It’s possible to own guns while acknowledging that maybe there should be some limits as to what kinds of weapons civilians should have access to.

And it’s possible to own guns while believing that maybe the world would be we better off without guns at all.

Preach. 

I have a few and have carried many, albeit in conflict areas. I maintain access to my shotgun. The rest are locked up.  I have never felt the need to carry a pistol in the US except when I went to pick up a friend from her abusive boyfriend's house. Yep, he was a gun nut. 

[TexasEd 8058]

8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I'm not a gun owner, so I know very little about shooting or gun safety, but those photos of little kids holding guns that are longer than they are tall just feels like an unsafe situation, and certainly bad teaching.

It is.

It is also indoctrination into a cult.

Parents should have to advocate for their custody rights or mental health based on those photos alone.

[Goredho 17272]

2 hours ago, Red Five said:

If watching porn made you commit mass murders, well, I wouldn't be here typing this right now. 

I'm pretty sure you've aborted millions upon millions of potential babies.

 

1 hour ago, trauma babe said:

I don't feel safe traveling outside of Austin anymore

I am with you.  Had to drive from ATX to DFW to catch a flight recently and stopped at the Buccee's in Temple to get gas and take a leak.  It felt like I suddenly found myself in a redneck zombie holocaust film.  I barely got out of there without catching airborn diabetes. 

[Pods 7503]

3 shot and injured at Xavier University after a high school graduation. 

 

[Brisketexan 104226]

I'm pretty sure you've aborted millions upon millions of potential babies.
 
I am with you.  Had to drive from ATX to DFW to catch a flight recently and stopped at the Buccee's in Temple to get gas and take a leak.  It felt like I suddenly found myself in a redneck zombie holocaust film.  I barely got out of there without catching airborn diabetes. 

To give you a snapshot of how completely, utterly, and totally fucked up we are, let me share with you an image of an item that is actually for sale in a Buccee's or similar such establishment here in Texas (shared with me by a friend):



 
What.  The actual.  Fuck.

[Pods 7503]

8 minutes ago, Pods said:

3 shot. 1 Dead, 2 injured at Xavier University after a high school graduation. 

 

Edited, apparently one of the victims died. 

 

Edited May 31, 2022 by Pods

[Biff Tannen 45439]

1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

To give you a snapshot of how completely, utterly, and totally fucked up we are, let me share with you an image of an item that is actually for sale in a Buccee's or similar such establishment here in Texas (shared with me by a friend):



 
What.  The actual.  Fuck.

Got kind of a Pecos Bill vibe going.

[GhostOfTomJoad 9273]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

To give you a snapshot of how completely, utterly, and totally fucked up we are, let me share with you an image of an item that is actually for sale in a Buccee's or similar such establishment here in Texas (shared with me by a friend):



 
What.  The actual.  Fuck.

I'm amazed that's not hanging on my MIL's wall already.

[Goredho 17272]

43 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Same here. I think a lot of us fit that description.

It’s possible to own guns and enjoy shooting without being a fucking weirdo and injecting firearms into every aspect of your life.

It’s possible to own guns without being such a pussy that you think everyday life is too dangerous without a sidearm.

It’s possible to own guns while acknowledging that maybe there should be some limits as to what kinds of weapons civilians should have access to.

And it’s possible to own guns while believing that maybe the world would be we better off without guns at all.

I own guns.  My wife and I have concealed carry permits.  We had a neighbor that we got into an adversarial relationship with (we hired and later fired him).  One day my wife was in a hurry to get kids to school, and her rushing out the driveway was interpreted as an attempt to "run him over."  He took to social media and posted he was going to always be armed from now on and would not let himself be "threatened" again.  I talked to the sheriff, and he came out to mediate a bit.  He was sympathetic, but said there wasn't much he could do since there was not a crime.  I asked about red flag laws, since they are in place in Colorado and this guy has known mental health issues.  His countenance towards us immediately changed.  He didn't say fuck you, but all illusions of sympathy were dropped and he left pretty abruptly.  I found out later he's one of several rural county sheriffs that have publicly come out to say they would never enforce Colorado's red flag laws.

You know what I would rather have than a concealed carry permit and the ability for my wife to try to defend herself if this nutbag decides to go postal?  A goddam county sheriff that would enforce red flag laws to disarm this fucker so she doesn't have to.

Edited May 31, 2022 by Goredho

[B00M 6248]

2 minutes ago, Goredho said:

I own guns.  My wife and I have concealed carry permits.  We had a neighbor that we got into an adversarial relationship with (we hired and later fired him).  One day my wife was in a hurry to get kids to school, and her rushing out the driveway was interpreted as an attempt to "run him over."  He took to social media and posted he was going to always be armed from now on and would not let himself be "threatened" again.  I talked to the sheriff, and he came out to mediate a bit.  He was sympathetic, but said there wasn't much he could do since there was not a crime.  I asked about red flag laws, since they are in place in Colorado and this guy has known mental health issues.  His countenance towards us immediately changed.  He didn't say fuck you, but all illusions of sympathy were dropped and he left pretty abruptly.  I found out later he's one of several [rural county sheriffs that have publicly come out to say they would never enforce Colorado's red flag laws](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/red-flag-gun-laws-a-standoff-in-colorado-60-minutes-2020-08-30/).

You know what I would rather have than a concealed carry permit and the ability for my wife to try to defend herself if this nutbag decides to go postal?  A goddam county sheriff that would enforce red flag laws to disarm this fucker so she doesn't have to.

Fuck, that's brutal. What are you gonna do? Move to a different neighborhood? 

[Brisketexan 104226]

Just now, B00M said:

Fuck, that's brutal. What are you gonna do? Move to a different neighborhood? 

He should probably stop being a commie gun-grabber, and just lift himself up by his bootstraps.

Sorry, been listening to AM radio lately.

[Goredho 17272]

Just now, B00M said:

Fuck, that's brutal. What are you gonna do? Move to a different neighborhood? 

I should have worded my last sentence to be past tense.  That happened 2 years ago, and yeah, we have since moved to a different part of rural Colorado.  There were other reasons for the move, but this was definitely a primary one.  I get to work remote, but still have to travel to ATX to be in the office about once a quarter, and I was worried sick when I'd be away.

[Goredho 17272]

12 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

He should probably stop being a commie gun-grabber, and just lift himself up by his bootstraps.

Sorry, been listening to AM radio lately.

And that's basically what we did, until we could engineer a move that was in our best interests.  I taught my wife and oldest kid to shoot, my wife and I both signed up and got our CCLs.  She's now pretty skilled at shooting a pistol she kept in her purse and how to use a shotgun for defense that we keep in a biometric safe in the living room.  We put up cameras all along our property to capture anything that went on in our driveway and the road along our property.

That context has all changed for the better since our move, we no longer have what we feel is an active threat to her and/or my kids where we live now, and the guns stay locked up safely with only her and I having access.

Our experience is what the gun fetishists want America to be.

Edited May 31, 2022 by Goredho

[WhatTheBuck 28696]

1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

Funny how there’s never been a “Fuck the Firefighters!” song.

Right? Firefighters are taught to risk their lives in order to save others. Cops are taught that the most important thing is for them to go home alive.