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8 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

near the goal line in the 3rd quarter was all on Sark.  take the 3 and don't put the ball in your QB's hands who is known to make lazy plays and have not so good ball security.

Sark is starting Quinn.  He knows who Quinn is, he has to manage Quinn and the game.

the only way we lose that game in the 2nd half is throwing pick 6's, fumble returns for TD's., ST's disasters  Their offense wasn't scoring 10 points after that first drive was stoned.

Quinn was fine. We won the game in a hostile environment but Sark is the one that put the game in jeopardy. 

Priority one besides OL(which is always priority one) is kicker and punter.  holy jesus what a train wreck.

As well as we were running the ball and how mentally important it was to cap those drives with ANY points rather than risk coming away with nothing, you just hand the ball off and see what happens. There was no reason to put QE in a position where he could make those mistakes.

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1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

And there lies the problem. If you have to manage your QB and take the ball out of his hands, you are behind the 8ball. This limits the playbook. You should be able to trust your QB on a #3 ranked team not to diarrhea all over himself when it matters.

Quinn was dog shit all 2nd half. And let's not pretend he dropped his nuts on aggy in the 1st half either. Arch had to come save a drive for our 1st TD after Quinn threw into triple coverage.

The win last night changes nothing about Quinn. He's the sole reason we damn near blew the game. He better thank this defense because without them, aggy could have snuck out of there with a win. Quinn made a few good plays and against aggy even with his terrible 2nd half, it was enough. How many teams in the playoffs is going scoreless and scoring 17pts total going to work against? I'd say none.

This game was a microcosm of Quinn’s career. Rough start, great 2Q, and then some WTF moments. Just time to accept this is Quinn. He going to give fans the full range of emotions every game. 

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4 minutes ago, B00M said:

As well as we were running the ball and how mentally important it was to cap those drives with ANY points rather than risk coming away with nothing, you just hand the ball off and see what happens. There was no reason to put QE in a position where he could make those mistakes.

what Sark doesn't seem to get is that 3 with this D is like 7 with a good D.  I know his kicker is meh and he expects his QB to not have shit ball security but there is mounds of evidence that "something" will happen during a game with Quinn.  take the 3 from 30 yards go up 20 and win the game. hell a TO on downs would be better.

We are lucky his fumble didn't get returned for a TD as well.

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4 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

And there lies the problem. If you have to manage your QB and take the ball out of his hands, you are behind the 8ball. This limits the playbook. You should be able to trust your QB on a #3 ranked team not to diarrhea all over himself when it matters.
 

Harsh but fair… but one could easily argue, this year particularly, there are very few FBS QBs you could trust against that aggy D in the RZ at Kyle field. 

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3 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

what Sark doesn't seem to get is that 3 with this D is like 7 with a good D.  I know his kicker is meh

All of Bert’s misses are from 40+ … he just doesn’t get many chances. 

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5 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

This game was a microcosm of Quinn’s career. Rough start, great 2Q, and then some WTF moments. Just time to accept this is Quinn. He going to give fans the full range of emotions every game. 

Yep. Winning this game and making the SEC championship makes a lot of that frustration go away. 

I do think it would be smart for Sark to keep using Arch situationally here and there. Don't need to worry about a QB controversy anymore, do whatever it takes to win from here on out. 

 

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Sark did Ewers no favors in his play calling in the 2nd half in the redzone. Just run Wisner and Gibson if you're afraid of Blue's fumbling. Get Arch back out when you get inside the 20. Quinn has to get out of his own head when he makes a mistake. His first half was great. 

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4 minutes ago, B00M said:

All of Bert’s misses are from 40+ … he just doesn’t get many chances. 

sure.  I'm fine with him from 35isn in but he's erratic even on his makes.  they rarely go down the middle.

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We have years left with Arch. Let Quinn have his moment with his team. 

Lol wut?

No. And that’s not why he’s the current QB1. The thought that any coach worth a fuck would agree with that sentiment and act on it is crazy.
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Yes, Arch in an RPO red-zone package. 

It’s well documented that Arch isn’t comfortable or particularly effective with the RPO game. Zone reads, designed qb runs and play action passing are the things we will feature for him.
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Fuck man, we won and Quinn did just enough good things to make that happen.  We’re 11-1 with a chance to avenge our only loss next week and enter the playoffs as the #2 overall seed.  Quinn isn’t perfect, but he’s made a few of my days in the last 3 years and we could be a lot worse off than we are now.

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28 minutes ago, dcar00 said:

what Sark doesn't seem to get is that 3 with this D is like 7 with a good D.  I know his kicker is meh and he expects his QB to not have shit ball security but there is mounds of evidence that "something" will happen during a game with Quinn.  take the 3 from 30 yards go up 20 and win the game. hell a TO on downs would be better.

We are lucky his fumble didn't get returned for a TD as well.

But then you have to trust our kicker.

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5 minutes ago, scottsins said:


It’s well documented that Arch isn’t comfortable or particularly effective with the RPO game. Zone reads, designed qb runs and play action passing are the things we will feature for him.

Jesus, Arch has 2 starts. There isn’t much to his game that is “well documented”. Let’s give him some time before we make sweeping comments about his game. 

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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Outside of the two turnovers he played well and showed grit for the first time in a long time. 

Yeah this is where I’m at. Was it only two bad plays? No, but the other mistakes were minor and each qb has those they want back each game. No one is perfect. The two redzone trips we made and eventually turned the ball over, he had some nice throws. I can’t remember which one of those two it was but aggy didn’t have an answer for Wisner or Ewers. One of Ewers’ most underrated throws of the night was when they finally got a free rusher off the edge and he recognized it and quickly got it out to Helm in the flat for a first. He was doing good to great on both of those trips then his brain decides to turn off. 

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Let the defense do its thing the rest of the year and hope Ewers limits mistakes and can complete a few passes downfield and see where it goes.  Losing most of the oline this year but yesterday proved it won’t be a huge step back.  This team will be noticeably better next year on offense I’d bet with Baxter coming back and Arch.  

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10 minutes ago, Horn Dogg said:

I see like 3 hard games on there max.  @Texas is a guaranteed ass whipping.

I see 6 being bad news for aggy...Florida, South Carolina, Notre Dame, Arkansas, LSU and Texas. Aggy D-Line stopper are gone and I don't think they can replace quickly. There offense will get a OC fired during the season.

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Man most of you guys are cunts that don't understand the game of football one bit. You can't have the number one defense without a solid offense. If the offense can't move the ball the defense will get a lot of plays run against it and eventually fold. It is also extremely difficult to run the ball without the defense respecting the pass. All night our offense moved the ball and played keep away from the Aggy O so our defense didn't have to defend for too many plays and stayed fresh. 

 

That's something that has to be respected and acknowledged. You guys forget that. You spend so much time fixated on every negative of Quinn that you can't appreciate the positives. This team is 11-1 and it's not just because of the defense. Aggys defense was frothing at the mouth. There should've been multiple personal fouls on their secondary. They were going to make a play at some point. 

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Just so the actual data is represented somewhere amongst all the feces being thrown about:

1st half:

11-17, 142 yards, and 1 TD

2nd half:

6-11, 76 yards, 1 lost fumble, and 1 INT (returned for a TD)

We can beat any team in the country with him playing the way he did in the first half. Second half Quinn can lose to almost anyone.

I’d be super interested to see his full year stats broken down by first half vs. second half. 

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Quinn threw a great deep ball. Wife claims it’s because the ankle boot cemented his feet into the turf to get proper leverage on the pass. #quinnshouldplayinabootforever. 

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I’ve been critical of Quinn this past month, but I’ve seen steady improvement each week. Whether that’s health or development, I don’t know. I was impressed with him last night. The Ags were rambunctious and he didn’t get flustered. I will say Isiah Bond got fucking manhandled off the line on multiple occasions, and it was clear he was Quinn’s 1st read. Quinn was able to come off and find guys consistently. The turnovers are inexcusable but I think it’s something he can improve. Maybe. 

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2 hours ago, B00M said:

I wondered about that. Your forward progress is down as soon as you lean back to initiate a slide right?.. but you can still fumble until your knee touches? 

Yeah, but he fumbled because he was hit. Any hit past the start of the slide shouldn't be allowed to cause a fumble, seems to me.

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1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Even if not tipped I think it’s still an interception and potential pick 6. Just a bad decision all around 

Yeah, I am not sure what he was thinking because Wingo wasn't open at all. I think the INT caused the fumble on the next drive because he had Davis kind of open but didn't pull the trigger. Good play by York, because had he bitten on the run look, Davis would have walked into the EZ with a TD.

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Got to give it to Quinn.

The only guy in the OSU class to beat Michigan and then gets to come in and beat OU twice and cap it off by beating A&M in the return to College Station.

Love him or hate him for his flaws, but the kid has some serious skins on wall.

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2 hours ago, Vic Mackey said:

And there lies the problem. If you have to manage your QB and take the ball out of his hands, you are behind the 8ball. This limits the playbook. You should be able to trust your QB on a #3 ranked team not to diarrhea all over himself when it matters.

Quinn was dog shit all 2nd half. And let's not pretend he dropped his nuts on aggy in the 1st half either. Arch had to come save a drive for our 1st TD after Quinn threw into triple coverage.

The win last night changes nothing about Quinn. He's the sole reason we damn near blew the game. He better thank this defense because without them, aggy could have snuck out of there with a win. Quinn made a few good plays and against aggy even with his terrible 2nd half, it was enough. How many teams in the playoffs is going scoreless and scoring 17pts total going to work against? I'd say none.

Don't want to beat a dead horse, but would like to focus on what is really important right now. Some people are just happy being 10-1. Others are pushing for Sark to Wake the Fuck up and take steps to win a Nat'l Championship. We remember the year and the game Vince Young and Texas won the Natty in what was possibly the greatest college game ever played, twenty fucking years ago. Some of us remember the '69 and '70 Nattys. What do we remember about last year's debacle against WAshington?

What year was it when we lost the Natty to GA, 10-9???? 49 carries 150yds rushing? 66yds passing???? Well, FYI, it was 1984. Pretty much wiped from memory.

This year isn't about beating 10 mediocre teams and losing to the one really good team we faced. It's about winning it all, Witnessing a miracle season, watching those kids take something with them none of us will ever forget, and the amazing plays it took to get us there. Sark doesn't need to play Quinn and hope for the best - he needs to get Manning as many reps as possible while we beat Georgia (hopefully). The dimension he will add to the offense will be undeniable, without putting it all on his shoulders. Then Manning will ride that D and a kick ass running game all the way to the title game. This is all very doable with him - but with Ewers, not so much. He limits this team.

If this group of unsung heroes and a freshman QB can pull this off, it will rank right up there (when all is said and done) with that 2005 season. And Quinn will get his due. He was an important part, but he's hobbled.

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13 hours ago, Red Five said:

James Brown is famous for battling through an ankle injury against Aggy and leading us to win. He was 12-29 for 149 yards, 0 TDs and an INT. Just for some perspective.

Damn….I thought we won the game!

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13 hours ago, Red Five said:

James Brown is famous for battling through an ankle injury against Aggy and leading us to win. He was 12-29 for 149 yards, 0 TDs and an INT. Just for some perspective.

Damn….I thought we won the game!

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2 hours ago, boilerhorn said:

@StassneyHorn posted it on the previous page.  I'll include again.

 

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Also - a couple of clicks at ESPN will yield the same result
https://www.espn.com/college-football/player/splits/_/id/4889929/quinn-ewers

Thanks. Makes sense that it would be available but had no idea where to look. 
 

That 2nd half line is garbage. Granted we’ve had some games that were already decided by the half, but the drop in efficiency across every measurable QB KPI is startling. 

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12 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

We won! 
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just want QE to take care of the ball and his health

my concern is our punting game coupled with going three and out. If we don’t have good field position to start a drive and we go 3 and out and then also have shitty punt this is a recipe for disaster, not crediting Aggie but they did do all they could on social teams in spite of their offense. And they had an opportunity to score another way on us. 
 

hoping Quinn has the game of his career next week. 
fuck Georgia. Fuck Kirby Smart. He showed the entire world what a douche canoe raging sloppy whiny vagina he is on Friday night, 

this fat clown pussy bitch ass needs to be taken down.

praying QE picks them apart like he did Bama last year. 
🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼

Nicole, we’re you in the Navy by any chance?!

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13 hours ago, ATLLonghorn said:

My SkyCam rewatch is focusing on Goosby so I'm not watching Quinn down to down as critically, but good lord this shit is why he's so maddening. These are on the same drive. Two of the best throws of his career. Both just awesome throws.

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Yeah, he was threading some needles there.  Given the shitty QB play we saw in the late Mack and Charlie Strong era, the amount of bitching is amazing to me too.  Sure Quinn made some mistakes…….but:

We are fucking 11-1, #2 in the nation, going to the SEC championship game with a chance to avenge our loss, and likely to get a top seed in the playoffs.  We beat OU, aggy and destroyed the defending national champion in the big house. We also smacked the shit out of Florida and beat Arky in Fayettnam.  

Im pretty damn happy with where we are and I believe Quinn and this team are good enough to get it done if the chips fall the right way.  

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Can the half splits be filtered for games where he played the whole game?  I’m sure his 2h stats would look better if he got to throw all over Colo st, ulm, Florida in the second half the same way as he did in those first halves.  Even Michigan he only had 3 passes I think in the second half. 

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Also while I’m here, not a fan of drop back and read the defense passing when up close to the goal line. Too many bodies, and turnovers are as costly as they can be. Runs and pre-snap single reads like fades or whips if 1v1 is identified.

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3 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Also while I’m here, not a fan of drop back and read the defense passing when up close to the goal line. Too many bodies, and turnovers are as costly as they can be. Runs and pre-snap single reads like fades or whips if 1v1 is identified.

I think Arch inside the 15 every possession would be something. What you said and if its not there, tuck it and run.

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