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Posted
1 hour ago, Gatorubet said:

Portmanteau? Isn’t that where Bob Seeger was really, really going to?

Dorthy Portnaneau is a SAINT!

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Posted
20 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Jesus Christ.

Shit man, I thought you of all people around here would have known the term. Been around since the mid 90s at least.

 

6 minutes ago, dcbc said:

Dorthy Portnaneau is a SAINT!

Lmao

Posted
59 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Well I don't think it's the generation as a whole. It's the leadership of the generation. My parents are boomers and are not on board the Republican train at all but it seems the boomer generation leadership of the last 25 years or so has been pretty horrendous overall. A lot of that leadership was put in place and kept in place by large amounts of boomer voters but it's not 100 percent their fault. I don't put the Reagan disaster on boomers because that was the WW2 generation still running things at that point.

Overall success tends to breed greed, complacency, and contempt for others. I think the meteoric rise of America as both a financial and cultural giant on the global scale post WW2 led to a ton of hubris and greed that has slowly eroded the things that allowed America to make that leap. We are a nation in decline with a widening gulf between the top few percent of wealthy people and everyone else and we're seeing the usual propaganda and fascist tactics take hold just as it did in other declining civilizations throughout history.

WIthout having delved too deep into the analysis, a lot of pretty sophisticated commentators have observed that the fall of the Soviet Union fueled a lot of what's going on.

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Posted
22 minutes ago, G650 said:

Shit man, I thought you of all people around here would have known the term. Been around since the mid 90s at least.

I don't recall ever hearing it, but my main reaction was to the murderer's row of spares associated with the genre.

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Also, free food for everyone.  But who's paying?

The owners, obviously 

Posted
26 minutes ago, Blotto said:

This dude cracks me up. Googled to see who he was. Apparently its some dude named Xavier Pressley who lives in Miami Beach. 

Photos: Outside Trump Doral As Ex-President Arrives for Arraignment

He's been at it for awhile. here's 2019

Xavier Presley protests outside of the Adrienne Arsht Center for the  Performing Arts in Miami on Wednesday, June 26, 2019, ahead of the first  Democratic presidential primary debates for the 2020 elections. (

Wheres the gofundme when you need it? Keep on keeping on, sir! 

I would be very surprised if that guy really has a white ass.

Posted
1 hour ago, Huckleberry said:

Look, you can have your musical tastes but you'll have to pry my cell phone from my cold, dead fingers before I change my wife's custom ring tone from Crazy Bitch. 

I used to hang out with this bartender in Boise who was on the Boise State dance team and when that song would come on she would make a point to sing along and dance to it, taking a break to reassure me that she had NO IDEA why she liked it so much. 
Later when she was a Broncos cheerleader she became briefly famous because they put a close up of her crotch on Monday Night Football. 
Nice kid. Good dancer. 

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:


Later when she was a Broncos cheerleader she became briefly famous because they put a close up of her crotch on Monday Night Football. 
Nice kid. Good dancer. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, miguelito said:

Stfu with all this generation talk. None of you are making a good case that *your* generation is worth a shit by fucking up this thread.

ok boomer

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Posted
2 hours ago, Blotto said:

There will be some transfer of wealth, but lets be honest about wealth distribution in this country. 

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The bottom 90% of the country is working with 32% of the wealth. Approximately the same percentage that the top 1% holds. That results in median wealth of about ~$250K for people over the age of 55 in this country. That net wealth includes real estate holdings. If you're passing that down to multiple children, its a nice bump but its not life changing money. 

Additionally its getting expensive as fuck to be old in this country. I observed that as my mom just passed this spring from Alzheimer's. She spent the last 5 years of her life in assisted living with the last 2 years in memory care.  The places she lived were really nice....far nicer than where a medicare patient gets to live.  We were lucky that she took out a long term care insurance policy when my dad died, but we fully exhausted her policy "max payout" of $350K in 3 years, and the cost of her memory care facility was significantly more than assisted living. I want to say about $160K per year towards the end with all of the services she received. 

The wealthier (say top 10%) are going to increasingly stay in those types of facilities, and when they're burning $150K a year getting old, that wealth transfer is going to corporations not children. And they hoover that shit up fucking FAST.

 

This is the most depressing shit I've read in a while. 

And I've read a lot of depressing shit lately. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

This is the most depressing shit I've read in a while. 

And I've read a lot of depressing shit lately. 

You're depressed that 68% of America's wealth is associated with 10% of Americans?  Why?

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Posted
7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

He has little or no defense on the facts -- the merits -- unless somehow some of the witnesses are extremely not credible.  Unlikely.

There are a number of procedural stunts that might get him off, but they're longshots.

I saw an article that pointed out that all of the documents on which he is accused were part of the original 15 boxes or in response to the subpoena.  Looks like Smith might be trying to sidestep any issues with the search warrant.

Or it could just be that those are the least sensitive, which would also explain why the orange goblin wasn't interested in squirreling those away like the others. 

Posted
20 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Back on topic, does this 9-0 decision affect the venue discourse?

 

This might have been relevant if they had brought the indictment elsewhere and the trial or appellate court found that venue was improper after he was convicted. But it's moot now. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

This might have been relevant if they had brought the indictment elsewhere and the trial or appellate court found that venue was improper after he was convicted. But it's moot now. 

I know others have said there's not much chance of superseding indictment but maybe for example the Bedminster was a site of some other possible crimes of disclosure and there was a fear and hesitancy to bring charges outside of south florida due to that possibility of an overturned conviction on that technicality. If I'm not misunderstanding the supreme court decision it sounds like that wouldn't count as double jeopardy. I wouldn't weep much about him being tried twice as long as he's convicted each time.

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Posted
23 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Back on topic, does this 9-0 decision affect the venue discourse?

 

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The Court rejects Smith’s argument that the Double Jeopardy Clause is implicated by retrial in a proper venue. A judicial decision on venue is fundamentally different from a jury’s general verdict of acquittal. When a jury returns a general verdict of not guilty, its decision “cannot be upset by speculation or inquiry into such matters” by courts. Dunn v. United States, 284 U. S. 390, 393–394. And because it is impossible for courts to be certain about the ground for the verdict without improperly delving into jury deliberations, the basis for the jury’s verdict cannot be a ground for setting aside an acquittal. Generally verdicts of acquittal are thus consistent with the general rule that “[c]ulpability . . . is the touchstone” for determining whether retrial is permitted under the Double Jeopardy Clause. Evans v. Michigan, 568 U. S. 313, 324. Under that rule, when a trial terminates with a finding that the defendant’s “criminal culpability had not been established,” retrial is prohibited. Burks v. United States, 437 U. S. 1, 10. Con- versely, retrial is permissible when a trial terminates “on a basis un- related to factual guilt or innocence of the offence of which [the defend- ant] is accused,” United States v. Scott, 437 U. S. 82, 99, e.g., juror deadlock, see Blueford v. Arkansas, 566 U. S. 599, 610. Similarly, the reversal of a conviction based on a violation of the Venue or Vicinage Clauses, even when styled as a “judgment of acquittal” under Rule 29, plainly does not resolve “the bottom-line question of ‘criminal culpability.’ ” Evans, 568 U. S., at 324, n. 6. In this case, then, the Eleventh Circuit’s decision that venue was improper did not adjudicate Smith’s culpability, and thus does not trigger the Double Jeopardy Clause

Well, as Florida is the correct venue, that issue is not as crucial as if they decided to try it in D.C.     I thought there was some other venue case pending at SCOTUS, but I dunno..,

Posted
That says a lot more about you than society 
I didn't choose my people. And I'm in construction. Aside from a few fishing buddies, I spend most of my time with pretty progressive people.
Posted (edited)
6 minutes ago, The Dog said:

AAAAARRRGGGGHHHH IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY POOR ME STOP BEING MEAN TO ME OMG 11!!!!

 

 

 

This is even funnier when you think about the fact, that he signed into law the bill making mishandling of classified documents a felony.

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-signed-a-law-making-mishandling-classified-docs-a-felony

 

Also, his tweets, truthbombs, or whatever read like the worst of the criminal pro se appellate briefs.  The dude has a real future as an unsuccessful jailhouse writ writer.

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Posted
Dunning-Kruger Effect on full display
My kid's are tolerant and mostly progressive or unitinterested in politics. He's in Aisd. His cousins in Montgomery County are future Trumpers by and large save the smart few that got out and went to UT or out of state.
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8 minutes ago, NAVY said:

What kind of things will he try to smuggle into prison in his ass? 

An old IBM typewriter?  Also buttrock.

 

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Posted
11 minutes ago, dcbc said:

 

This is even funnier when you think about the fact, that he signed into law the bill making mishandling of classified documents a felony.

Its probably what gave him the idea

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


I’m in the “fuck him to hell” phase. Been there for 20 years.

I think his "Denial Phase" consisted of a genuine belief that a mob of MAGAts would rescue him J6-style.

Sorry asshole the cavalry's not coming.

Posted
26 minutes ago, The Dog said:

AAAAARRRGGGGHHHH IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY POOR ME STOP BEING MEAN TO ME OMG 11!!!!

 

 

He even wants the stuff that he says was planted back? Bold, but fair. 

Posted
11 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

He even wants the stuff that he says was planted back? Bold, but fair. 

he turned the planted documents into presidential records with his mind. try and keep up

Posted (edited)
39 minutes ago, The Dog said:

AAAAARRRGGGGHHHH IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY POOR ME STOP BEING MEAN TO ME OMG 11!!!!

I wonder if it's occurred to him that none of his followers, both the MAGA peasants and the Rs in Congress, are actually doing anything to try and help him - nobody is trying to take out Jack Smith, nobody is storming the courthouse or the National Archives.  Gym Jordan and the others in Congress are pretending to, going through a few motions, but they all know it won't work.

Those idiot seditionists on January 6th, that was it.  MAGA blew their load, and outside of a few deaths, ended up with a lot of felonies and jail sentences.

Which tells you on some level that MAGA isn't quite 100% all-in on Trump.  They are all-in on how he makes them feel, but at the end of the day, the very vast majority are simply not willing to risk their lives or livelihoods for him.  Unfortunately for Rod DeSandus, he doesn't have the charisma to make them feel like Trump does.

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