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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, Beau Vine said:

You are one sick dude.  I wouldn't fuck Sydney Powell with Rex Kramer's dick.

Even if you did she'd never feel it

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Posted
8 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

In this case, it's lupus.

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This thread has no shortage of pictures of booger-eating morons lately.

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Posted
17 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

 

Maybe Trump finally found out it his lawyer was actually just peter stormare playing a character?

 

 

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Posted
8 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Yeah, and what we really want to avoid here is anything that leads to a credible argument that the indictment should be dismissed.

It's a bit like like improper prosecutorial jury argument in counties with a high conviction rate (a/k/a most of Texas counties).  Prosecutors get emboldened because they win a lot.  So they push boundaries.  But even then, if there's a Rule 1 about winning on appeal, it's win at trial.  So even when such arguments push boundaries, the rules governing appellate review, burden of proof, and harm analyisis lend themselves to those cases' being affirmed more often than not.  That's not bias in the judicial system either.  That's a result of the appellate court following the law as it currently exists.  I don't know but presume that the federal system similarly is set up to bounce cases, whether the issue is related to such argument or to indictments/grand jury proceedings, in instances where the error isn't particularly grievous and the harm stemming from it isn't particularly clear.  

 

Of course in this case, it's all under the magnifying glass, and Smith, to the extent he might be the type to push the envelope, is unlikely to do it here so as to cut off any potential successful avenue of appeal.  I'm betting he runs a very tight ship in most cases.  

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

I'm assuming he received payment in full, thanks to all of those fine MAGA folk donations.

 

 

“We still wants the money, Trump, or we fuck you ups.”

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Posted
1 hour ago, 4th&Five said:

 

This guy is kind of famous around here, handles a lot of rap stars cases (I don't think he's in on the other rico case though).  Took a $3 million non refundable retainer from Trump knowing that Trump wouldn't listen and would violate the terms of their agreement and subsequently default.  It would appear that he made a smart move.  

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Posted
24 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

This guy is kind of famous around here, handles a lot of rap stars cases (I don't think he's in on the other rico case though).  Took a $3 million non refundable retainer from Trump knowing that Trump wouldn't listen and would violate the terms of their agreement and subsequently default.  It would appear that he made a smart move.  

Not a smart move at all.

I wouldn't touch any representation of Trump for less than a $10 million retainer, and that shit would need to be paid in cash fucking money, and I still wouldn't consider it fully paid until I'd moved it to an offshore account where Trump fuckery couldn't reach it.

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Posted
1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

Not a smart move at all.

I wouldn't touch any representation of Trump for less than a $10 million retainer, and that shit would need to be paid in cash fucking money, and I still wouldn't consider it fully paid until I'd moved it to an offshore account where Trump fuckery couldn't reach it.

He got his up front was the word, and as I said non refundable.  Drew Finding is his name, I remembered Vice did a thing on him and found it.  If he did get the money it makes it all the funnier, he's not a Republican.

 

 

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Posted
35 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

This guy is kind of famous around here, handles a lot of rap stars cases (I don't think he's in on the other rico case though).  Took a $3 million non refundable retainer from Trump knowing that Trump wouldn't listen and would violate the terms of their agreement and subsequently default.  It would appear that he made a smart move.  

Speaking of ethics, i have never really understood how a non-refundable retainer is going to work.

At least in theory, all fees have to be earned, which means on termination of representation, unearned fees are returned to the client.  Kind of the antithesis of nonrefundable.

There's also things like opportunity cost, conflicting out of other representation (mostly only applies to civil and family in particular) that could justify a big nonrefundable retainer.

A more modest nonrefundable retainer could be earned very quickly and justified by the other factors.  Three mil, I dunno man.

Posted (edited)
5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Value of damage to my professional reputation for representing such a loathsome clown, meaning I may not ever get another client: $9,999,000.

I'd sell all my reputations for 10% of that.

ETA: After taxes.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Speaking of ethics, i have never really understood how a non-refundable retainer is going to work.

At least in theory, all fees have to be earned, which means on termination of representation, unearned fees are returned to the client.  Kind of the antithesis of nonrefundable.

There's also things like opportunity cost, conflicting out of other representation (mostly only applies to civil and family in particular) that could justify a big nonrefundable retainer.

A more modest nonrefundable retainer could be earned very quickly and justified by the other factors.  Three mil, I dunno man.

 

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Here's how I earn that fee:

First hour of work at $1,000 per hour: $1,000

Value of damage to my professional reputation for representing such a loathsome clown, meaning I may not ever get another client: $9,999,000.

Exactly -- do you have to call it a "retainer"? Just tell Donald, "Yeah, fuckhead, I'll represent you. For $3M cash. Due immediately. When we surpass that, I'll ask for another lump sum."

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Posted
5 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

Exactly -- do you have to call it a "retainer"? Just tell Donald, "Yeah, fuckhead, I'll represent you. For $3M cash. Due immediately. When we surpass that, I'll ask for another lump sum."

I guessing he put it in a contract, and retainer might be the incorrect terminology.  He also was pretty clear in his interview that he had clauses and terms in it, so if violated the contract is revoked (at least that would be the way I understood it).  Of course that's just talk, but I'd also think that even the perception that he "ripped" off Trump would likely only help his street cred.  Also, I would presume he was paid by one of the PAC's.  

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Posted

"My rate is $3M per hour.  After the first hour, I will do 2,999 hours pro bono.  The next hour will cost $3M.  Lather, rinse, repeat."

It's kinda like back in the day when scalping tickets was illegal pretty much everywhere.  "For sale:  one baseball.  $1,000.  I'll throw in two playoff tickets."

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Posted
1 hour ago, locodos said:

Eastman's mugshot almost makes me believe in Lizard people.  He wants your soul!

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Strong Heaven's Gate vibe.

 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

I guessing he put it in a contract, and retainer might be the incorrect terminology.  He also was pretty clear in his interview that he had clauses and terms in it, so if violated the contract is revoked (at least that would be the way I understood it).  Of course that's just talk, but I'd also think that even the perception that he "ripped" off Trump would likely only help his street cred.  Also, I would presume he was paid by one of the PAC's.  

all legal fees are being paid by the Save America PAC.

it's not Trump's money so getting paid isn't an issue...until the PAC runs out of money.

(Narrator: the PAC is running out of money)

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Posted
23 minutes ago, The Dog said:

all legal fees are being paid by the Save America PAC.

it's not Trump's money so getting paid isn't an issue...until the PAC runs out of money.

(Narrator: the PAC is running out of money)

This reminds me, I had a new grift idea.

The "Save Trump Legal Advice" PAC.  See, we will have a team of super smart lawyers who will prepare and send legal memoranda of top-notch advice for Trump's legal team.  Contribute now to hire these lawyers, and help our favorite president, Donald J. Trump!*

 

*  The lawyers will be a couple of Surly posters.  And our advice will be a single memo: "To whom it may concern: plead guilty to all charges."

 

I guarantee you we can pocket better than $5 million, all of which will go to "legal analysis fees" and "management fees."

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Posted
47 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Here's how I earn that fee:

First hour of work at $1,000 per hour: $1,000

Value of damage to my professional reputation for representing such a loathsome clown, meaning I may not ever get another client: $9,999,000.

I'm thinking that there should be a value factor for the future mental anguish and loss of consortium to be suffered by the Dotard's lawyers from the cultists' threats and harassment after his conviction.

Posted
21 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This reminds me, I had a new grift idea.

The "Save Trump Legal Advice" PAC.  See, we will have a team of super smart lawyers who will prepare and send legal memoranda of top-notch advice for Trump's legal team.  Contribute now to hire these lawyers, and help our favorite president, Donald J. Trump!*

 

*  The lawyers will be a couple of Surly posters.  And our advice will be a single memo: "To whom it may concern: plead guilty to all charges."

 

I guarantee you we can pocket better than $5 million, all of which will go to "legal analysis fees" and "management fees."

You guys are gonna need someone to ensure the toilet isn't in the middle of the room at the office.  I'm happy to help for 6% plus general conditions.  

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Posted
30 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

This reminds me, I had a new grift idea.

The "Save Trump Legal Advice" PAC.  See, we will have a team of super smart lawyers who will prepare and send legal memoranda of top-notch advice for Trump's legal team.  Contribute now to hire these lawyers, and help our favorite president, Donald J. Trump!*

 

*  The lawyers will be a couple of Surly posters.  And our advice will be a single memo: "To whom it may concern: plead guilty to all charges."

 

I guarantee you we can pocket better than $5 million, all of which will go to "legal analysis fees" and "management fees."

We just need one Surlyite to open a Truth Account and then Truth out the advice there and respond to any/all of Trump's Truths.   That way, actual advice was delivered to keep it all above board.

I'm in.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

You guys are gonna need someone to ensure the toilet isn't in the middle of the room at the office.  I'm happy to help for 6% plus general conditions.  

*General Conditions at $250,000 per month no retainage. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Upgrayedd said:

*General Conditions at $250,000 per month no retainage. 

Don't give away our secrets, I've got a payroll to meet.  PM fees man.  

Posted
Just now, BamaATL said:

Don't give away our secrets, I've got a payroll to meet.  PM fees man.  

Yeah.....I ain't falling for your "design-build" and "cost plus" setup, dude.  

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Posted (edited)
2 minutes ago, Horn Dogg said:

So what’s the over/under on Trump’s actual height and weight when he gets booked?  I’m betting on 6’ 0” and 315 lbs.

There is a thread dedicated to it

Edit: or there was?

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Posted
2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Speaking of ethics, i have never really understood how a non-refundable retainer is going to work.

At least in theory, all fees have to be earned, which means on termination of representation, unearned fees are returned to the client.  Kind of the antithesis of nonrefundable.

There's also things like opportunity cost, conflicting out of other representation (mostly only applies to civil and family in particular) that could justify a big nonrefundable retainer.

A more modest nonrefundable retainer could be earned very quickly and justified by the other factors.  Three mil, I dunno man.

The thing is that you can "earn" that by doing pretty much any amount of work. The question then becomes reasonableness of the fee, which as you know isn't the most critical analysis. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

I wouldn't touch any representation of Trump for less than a $10 million retainer, and that shit would need to be paid in cash 

Gonna be a long day sitting there with that little fluorescent pen checking all those bills to see if they're legit.

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Pancho said:

Surly lawyers wanna take this? Lol

 

 

 

 

If you sent me a picture of that guy and asked me what he did for a living, I’d say he’s exactly what he is/is doing in tha video. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

Speaking of ethics, i have never really understood how a non-refundable retainer is going to work.

 

Took the words right out of my mouth.



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